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Old 30th Jul 2021, 09:22
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Tuned out as soon as Scotty's lips started moving.
Fortunately the Health Minister and Chief Health Officer aren’t as sadistic as some of the posters here and are welcoming people to hospitals if they need healthcare irrespective of how they caught the virus or their vaccination status.
The proclivities of the NSW Health Minister and Chief Health Officer are neither here nor there, and are their business.

The fact is that an ICU won't know why someone who's lobbed into its lap and, in any event, won't be able to ask if the patient can't talk. It has ever been thus, and Covid 19 doesn't change it.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 10:59
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And we now have a tradie who knew he was positive, that has been working on a construction site for at least a week!!!
..if you can push a wheelbarrow all week with this “terrible affliction” without needing a day in bed..I’d rather catch it than a runny nose
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 11:15
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..if you can push a wheelbarrow all week with this “terrible affliction” without needing a day in bed..I’d rather catch it than a runny nose
The point you seem seem to miss.. your ‘ runny nose ‘ could kill the person you pass it on to. What part of that don’t you understand ??
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 12:13
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Originally Posted by Foxxster

and international border caps would remain, but inbound passenger caps, which were recently halved, would be restored back to around 6000 a week.
So no real difference for those of us on the “wrong side” of the border….

The current 50% cut is unsustainable and is lower than ANY POINT in the last 18 months.


Originally Posted by Foxxster
There would be a larger cap for vaccinated returning travellers coming to Australia in Phase B.
Let’s hope this actually happens. This is the only thing that will make the system “fair”.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 12:54
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Meanwhile, another study on blood clots from Pfizer versus AstraZeneca shows they both have the same rate. However, people getting Pfizer were on average older and had more underlying conditions so who knows…,I hope we don’t get a GREAT BIG SCARE CAMPAIGN against Pfizer now like we have had against AstraZeneca.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...udy-finds.html
A word of caution on that study, it looked at a sample that included 945,941 who had received at least one shot of the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine (778,534 with 2 doses), compared to 426,272 who had received the AstraZeneca vaccine. They are small samples when looking at such a relatively rare complication.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 18:23
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The point you seem seem to miss.. your ‘ runny nose ‘ could kill the person you pass it on to. What part of that don’t you understand ??

well since the runny nose I was referring to was not Covid then it’s gonna be a whole new world for you brother
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 18:48
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I like the part where vaccinated ppl get privileges, I wonder what they will be.
Yes with this passed on 21/6/2021.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2021B00078
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 19:04
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Well they’ve really made a rod for their own backs there. 70%? 80%?
The likelihood of achieving either of those figures seems pretty low given the complacency demonstrated so far. Let’s face it, Aussies are living in a cotton-wooled society now. Why take responsibility for yourself when you can do whatever you like without consequences?
Will be interesting to see how they back away from those targets when it becomes apparent they’re not happening. Fatal leadership error. March-April 2022 and the rate still sitting at less than 60% likely should make it an interesting election lead-up.

PS. I’m not disputing that these are the figures we need to get to but can’t see it happening- ever.



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Old 31st Jul 2021, 00:38
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Did anyone else notice something odd about that QLD press conference?

Gladys, Dan whenever they have their ms they always push for ppl to get vaccinated. I don’t think any of those QLD clams even mentioned go get vaccinated.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 01:32
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Originally Posted by SHVC
Did anyone else notice something odd about that QLD press conference?

Gladys, Dan whenever they have their ms they always push for ppl to get vaccinated. I don’t think any of those QLD clams even mentioned go get vaccinated.
Probably saw what you wanted to see. Because young certainly did mention getting the shot. Sure the didn't repeat adnausium like other states

even linked to the time she said it

wierd links about 10 seconds early
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 01:44
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Well the time I watched it was never mentioned. She just blabbered on about LGAs and talking in circles.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 02:02
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I heard that the WA premier has already rejected the PMs plan and isn’t buying into the lockdown plan possibly more. Wonderful, when is the bloody politics going to stop. Rhetorical question there.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 02:24
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I heard that the WA premier has already rejected the PMs plan and isn’t buying into the lockdown plan possibly more. Wonderful, when is the bloody politics going to stop. Rhetorical question there.
Yep, pretty much...

Originally Posted by The ABC
WA Premier Mark McGowan says the state will reserve its right to enact lockdowns after national cabinet agreed on vaccination targets to progress to the next stage of the nation's COVID-19 roadmap.

But Mr McGowan said that would not necessarily change WA's approach. "Lockdowns would still be possible where needed," he said. "Lockdowns are, really, until we're all vaccinated, the only thing that works."
He also left out border lockouts, holding Citizens and families as economic hostages of his state, destroying families, preventing funerals or Citizen's attending funerals, playing politics with peoples mental health & making a mockery of the concept of a National Cabinet. They're all things he's done and appear to work too!
Originally Posted by The ABC
"When we hit the 80 per cent mark, lockdowns would only be for unusual circumstances in specific locations, but 80 per cent vaccination is very high," Mr McGowan said. "We still reserve the right to lockdown in specific locations if absolutely necessary."So it might be a country town, it might be a local government area, something of that nature."Source

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Old 31st Jul 2021, 02:42
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"Lockdowns are, really, until we're all vaccinated, the only thing that works."
Please define "ALL" Mr McGowan.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 03:03
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McGowan will never admit it but truth is he doesn’t give a toss about the rest of Australia and nor do MOST of his voters.

WA is living the high life economically and it’s citizens have had a level of freedom unparalleled through all of this.

McGowan and his troops are in no rush to change anything. An uncontrollable outbreak is the only thing that will change their opinions/actions.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 03:17
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McGowan will never admit it but truth is he doesn’t give a toss about the rest of Australia and nor do MOST of his voters.

WA is living the high life economically and it’s citizens have had a level of freedom unparalleled through all of this.

McGowan and his troops are in no rush to change anything. An uncontrollable outbreak is the only thing that will change their opinions/actions.
This is the only thing that matters, McGowan is doing what WA wants, WA isn't doing anything wrong. You can laugh, poke fun at or whatever but the state is functioning, free and making money. I disagree with how they are going about it, but it matters nowt what I think as I don't live there, and nothing they are doing is affecting me or my community. Especially if any of you clowns live in Sydney at the moment it might be best to just let them be.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 03:20
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but the state is functioning, free and making money.
as I said in my post
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 04:42
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Well they’ve really made a rod for their own backs there. 70%? 80%?
The likelihood of achieving either of those figures seems pretty low given the complacency demonstrated so far. Let’s face it, Aussies are living in a cotton-wooled society now. Why take responsibility for yourself when you can do whatever you like without consequences?
Will be interesting to see how they back away from those targets when it becomes apparent they’re not happening. Fatal leadership error. March-April 2022 and the rate still sitting at less than 60% likely should make it an interesting election lead-up.
Gee he can't do anything right in the eyes of those who don't wish to see.Unless you have been living under a rock, every one, according to the media, has been asking for the number.

He provided the number and is immediately slammed.

Some people need to grow up.

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Old 31st Jul 2021, 06:18
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Originally Posted by Cafe City
Well they’ve really made a rod for their own backs there. 70%? 80%?
The likelihood of achieving either of those figures seems pretty low given the complacency demonstrated so far. Let’s face it, Aussies are living in a cotton-wooled society now. Why take responsibility for yourself when you can do whatever you like without consequences?
Will be interesting to see how they back away from those targets when it becomes apparent they’re not happening. Fatal leadership error. March-April 2022 and the rate still sitting at less than 60% likely should make it an interesting election lead-up.

PS. I’m not disputing that these are the figures we need to get to but can’t see it happening- ever.
Disagree - we’ve been slow to start, but are now doing pretty well - rate of vaccination is good for an end of year result.

Some will need motivating to get the jab, but that’s pretty easily done with a few “vaccinated people can do XYZ….”

For once I think we’re reasonably
on track and we will be sitting pretty well come end of the year / early new year.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 06:23
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Originally Posted by 601
Gee he can't do anything right in the eyes of those who don't wish to see.Unless you have been living under a rock, every one, according to the media, has been asking for the number.

He provided the number and is immediately slammed.

Some people need to grow up.
I don't know exactly what ScoMo said (and not inclined to chase it up, because it'll mean doodle-squat) but I'm fairly certain that the gentleman from the Grattan Institute that I listened to on Thursday evening said that they had determined that a vaccination level of 80% was necessary with a vaccination level of 95% for Australians over the age of 60.
That was a vaccination level of 80% of all residents - not just for adults.

Let's see how we go with that by Xmas.
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