Qantas Recruitment
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Apparently really not in Qantas given the quality of candidates who I’m hearing are getting knock back emails today.
600-700 external applicants. Maximum of 200 positions of which a fair swathe (who knows how many) will be set aside for internals from JQ and QLink.
600-700 external applicants. Maximum of 200 positions of which a fair swathe (who knows how many) will be set aside for internals from JQ and QLink.
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The quality of applicants that were knocked back today is extremely surprising!
The only people who were able to get through to the next round, from my company at least, are people who sit in the left, some of which have less experience than the people who got knocked back.
The only people who were able to get through to the next round, from my company at least, are people who sit in the left, some of which have less experience than the people who got knocked back.
4000 hour multi crew turboprop captain, 'thanks but no thanks, not competitive enough to proceed to testing'.
Ah well, their loss.
Ah well, their loss.
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This time round could it be because of the straight to the 737 potential? And maybe staggering the ages of candidates? Wait that’s too forward thinking. Silly me.
Any substance to a link between tertiary qualification (or lack of) and the knock back emails?
I guess that's one way of culling applicants. Never mind the aeronautical experience...
I guess that's one way of culling applicants. Never mind the aeronautical experience...
Ouch. Sorry to hear that broken. That's tough news.
Are we still seeing the HR-centric approach to recruitment? Failure rate I've heard for SOTs is unprecedented in my experience. Hope they've learnt their lesson.
Best of luck to all those who get knocked back. It's tough but QF is certainly not the only game in town. Take care of yourselves.
Are we still seeing the HR-centric approach to recruitment? Failure rate I've heard for SOTs is unprecedented in my experience. Hope they've learnt their lesson.
Best of luck to all those who get knocked back. It's tough but QF is certainly not the only game in town. Take care of yourselves.
4000 hour multi crew turboprop captain, 'thanks but no thanks, not competitive enough to proceed to testing'.
Ah well, their loss.
Ah well, their loss.
Who knows what they want, I don’t think they know.
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That could be a reason, however even with a Bachelor of Engineering, still a big fat no.
To all the complete weirdo’s out there who don’t get the nod, I’ve been in long enough to say I am deeply concerned about the recruitment process as dictated by HR. What Qf are after (IMHO) are complete yes men. That is something I do NOT want in the LHS of any jet I’m paxing on. I don’t like the direction the company has been on for decades, I don’t like the way it is managed and I have grave misgivings about the ‘management’ of the recruitment process.
Qf is going nowhere (certainly international) anytime soon. And please understand there are many options other than living your life not sleeping at normal hours and waiting to answer someone else’s telephone calls.
I got the golden call, as did a number here, of course. But let me say that I believe that might not have been such a gift and that anyone who has the temerity to complete an IFR rating has the ability to be successful anywhere and in any field they choose. Flying is a wonderful activity. However, I’d guess most here reading this could find a career path that might see them owning their own jet and calling someone else to do the hard work when they just wanted to go somewhere but actually wanted to sleep that night.
Qf is going nowhere (certainly international) anytime soon. And please understand there are many options other than living your life not sleeping at normal hours and waiting to answer someone else’s telephone calls.
I got the golden call, as did a number here, of course. But let me say that I believe that might not have been such a gift and that anyone who has the temerity to complete an IFR rating has the ability to be successful anywhere and in any field they choose. Flying is a wonderful activity. However, I’d guess most here reading this could find a career path that might see them owning their own jet and calling someone else to do the hard work when they just wanted to go somewhere but actually wanted to sleep that night.
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I'd say QF have enough applicants with jet/airline experience to choose from, on this occasion.
Reading the Virgin thread, more and more Virgin pilots are coming across to QF, then you got a good number of CX pilots wanting to come home,
you got Airforce pilots that are flying sophisticated equipment, then QF has to accommodate applicants from Qlink/Jetstar.
So the end result is, there's not too many positions available for general aviation applicants.
During the last 5 to 10 years, more and more Australian pilot license holders are flying for operators outside their country, especially Asia,
and returning home with experience on airline jet aircraft.
Apart from this wave of recruitment by QF, it will be interesting to see, where the company will slot their future 100 a year cadets in the QF system.
Reading the Virgin thread, more and more Virgin pilots are coming across to QF, then you got a good number of CX pilots wanting to come home,
you got Airforce pilots that are flying sophisticated equipment, then QF has to accommodate applicants from Qlink/Jetstar.
So the end result is, there's not too many positions available for general aviation applicants.
During the last 5 to 10 years, more and more Australian pilot license holders are flying for operators outside their country, especially Asia,
and returning home with experience on airline jet aircraft.
Apart from this wave of recruitment by QF, it will be interesting to see, where the company will slot their future 100 a year cadets in the QF system.
They will probably find a way to slot them into the seniority system above the other recruits on the basis of diversity ,inclusion or some other form of HR bulls##t.👍👍👍
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I agree Seagull. It’ll begin to thin out real quick. I think Keg said a little while ago they aren’t short now but they will be in a year or so. As for the flying school. We shall wait to see If that on gets off the ground this century
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I’m wondering, in this time of Shortage, if candidates who are getting no letters, are there still “don’t apply again” letters or are they all “try again” next round? I’d think it prudent to not let anyone get away totally at the moment. Hopefullly everyone with a desire to come here will get another go.
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it will be interesting to see, where the company will slot their future 100 a year cadets in the QF system.
And who can blame them? All three entities are easily the lowest paid and hardest working pilots in the QF group.
I am in the no boat as well, pretty much everyone I know got a no as well other than a couple of very low experienced Captains.
Who knows what they want, it is just so very frustrating knowing there are so many of us out here working hard and who have the right experience and still get knocked back not even a look in with psychometric testing. Especially knowing some of the people who have got in the past 12-18 months I am just so surprised.
Lets see if they at least hold true to their word in the email that they will be in contact with other Qantas Group positions, or is that just to try and soften the blow for us?
Soon this HR tactic is going to bite them in the arse surely.
Who knows what they want, it is just so very frustrating knowing there are so many of us out here working hard and who have the right experience and still get knocked back not even a look in with psychometric testing. Especially knowing some of the people who have got in the past 12-18 months I am just so surprised.
Lets see if they at least hold true to their word in the email that they will be in contact with other Qantas Group positions, or is that just to try and soften the blow for us?
Soon this HR tactic is going to bite them in the arse surely.
Really, hardest working? 900 hours in 12 months not enough?
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Where they always intended for them to go: Eastern, Sunstate and Network. I left there late last year. Between them, the turboprop outfits were about 100 pilots fewer than they were 2 years earlier and were losing around 60 pilots per year. Doubt that's changed much in six months. From what I hear, Network can't crew their current fleet, let alone an expanded one.
And who can blame them? All three entities are easily the lowest paid and hardest working pilots in the QF group.
And who can blame them? All three entities are easily the lowest paid and hardest working pilots in the QF group.
I see a number of these cadets going straight to the B7378 as F/O's, others may go to the Dash 8 or as Second Officers.
Jetstar cadets are going straight to the A320 as F/O's, i see QF doing the same.
From a pure observer's point of view, i see this happening without any doubt.