Qantas Recruitment
Upon joining QF as an FO will this result in becoming a 73 captain quicker then going the 78 SO route ? Or is the seniority number the only thing that matters. Any insight here would be appreciated.
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So if I’m understanding that correctly I could sit as a SO for 10 years and then bid for captain spot on 73 and that would be no slower than sitting as an FO for 10 years and then upgrading.
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Your understanding of a seniorty system is correct (assuming you meet the usual upgrade requirements too of course).
kind of. You'd have to be assessed as suitable by the CAAC , which is the aircrew assessment committee. All pilots are assessed by the CAAC before promotion (either CAPT or FO). They may require certain requirements before they'd allow you to do that.
Not Quite. Company FO time required for command. Some exceptions for ex wide body experience with other operators. All assessed by the CAAC.
Anecdotally I’ve heard that SO to FO upgrades spike in failure rates around the 7 year mark. Command upgrade would be much more rigorous.
After ten years you can indeed bid for that left hand seat. Then maybe grab a right seat for the next ten years waiting for your number to come up. But it won’t be on a 737.
Nope, and I reckon they will have retired the 787’s by the time you have the seniority for a command on them.
After you have secured it, make sure you build up to the company minimums for a command upgrade if you don't already have them.
If you want to be a Qantas Captain quickly you’d be better off applying to Jetconnect or NJS. If you have jet time already it’ll take you less then 6 months I’d say.
With all of the new pay rates and conditions greatly improved for all US pilots, keen to hear on the opinion of others in here if they’ve made the move over to the states or ones that already have if they would make the move back to australia for qantas.
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I’m in a similar boat between choosing United or either qantas. I always had the assumption qantas had the best conditions, pay etc in aviation but now that it’s time to make the decision it’s not so easy.
Unfortunately T&C’s in Australia have gone nowhere. The reasons why have been discussed elsewhere (lack of a strong over-arching union, small industry & therefore lack of options etc … ).
But for a simple comparison, as a 2nd year narrowbody FO here I’ll earn over 300K AUD + 17% direct retirement contribution. Not including per diems of course 😄.
But for a simple comparison, as a 2nd year narrowbody FO here I’ll earn over 300K AUD + 17% direct retirement contribution. Not including per diems of course 😄.
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I would suggest it is a fallacy to directly compare AUD vs USD salaries outright. They are two separate job markets (though somewhat linked via the E-3). Not at all suggesting things in Aus can't and shouldn't be improved, but salaries in the US are markedly higher in a lot of fields outside aviation, such as finance and tech. I wouldn't expect Australia to be able to match these dollar for dollar in the near future
To answer the above question, I'm a current E-3 pilot I would pick Qantas over any of the current E-3 carriers. Would I take Qantas over a US legacy? Gonna be a tough choice
I also personally strongly prefer living Australia over the US, if this is not the case for you then your answer will probably be different
To answer the above question, I'm a current E-3 pilot I would pick Qantas over any of the current E-3 carriers. Would I take Qantas over a US legacy? Gonna be a tough choice
I also personally strongly prefer living Australia over the US, if this is not the case for you then your answer will probably be different
Unfortunately T&C’s in Australia have gone nowhere. The reasons why have been discussed elsewhere (lack of a strong over-arching union, small industry & therefore lack of options etc … ).
But for a simple comparison, as a 2nd year narrowbody FO here I’ll earn over 300K AUD + 17% direct retirement contribution. Not including per diems of course 😄.
But for a simple comparison, as a 2nd year narrowbody FO here I’ll earn over 300K AUD + 17% direct retirement contribution. Not including per diems of course 😄.
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