Qantas Recruitment

[q400link]

Originally Posted by smiling monkey

Do they even meet the minimum's for the likes of NJS, EFA and Network? Those operators require at least 1000 to 1500 hours minimum.

They don't need to.

[smiling monkey]

Originally Posted by q400link

They don't need to.

Just goes to show how BS those minimum requirements are when you need pilots.

[BoomTimes]

Originally Posted by q400link

They don't need to.

Incorrect.

[Angle of Attack]

At the moment a pulse and a valid license will get you a look in anywhere…

[gordonfvckingramsay]

Originally Posted by Angle of Attack

At the moment a pulse and a valid license will get you a look in anywhere…

And/or a foreign passport.

[sellect]

Any word on when Qantas will accept new applications again?

[Slezy9]

Apparently still 300 on the hold file, I guess it depends on how quickly it depletes.

[Makiko]

Likely 18 months at present rate

How are Qlink dash releasing the 130 or so they have on HF ?

Seniority or performance in selection process ? JQ release to ML on seniority , Network ?

Internals processed again in January 2024 , get another 150 or so & you are good until the end of 2025

Not seeing a lot of opportunity for applications to open to externals, but QF have been telling people this since 2016 - we hire to group & then you can jump around

Looking all closed up in the USA atm for Regional FO entry - game changes yet again

[soseg]

Originally Posted by Slezy9

Apparently still 300 on the hold file, I guess it depends on how quickly it depletes.

And how many quit the day after QF gives them a 737 TR, going off to fly in the USA.

[Makiko]

Yes they will be quitting in their hundreds

It would be so tempting to leave your home country legacy , that has never (well 50 years) made a pilot compulsory redundant
to go work on a two year renewable visa , in a country where almost all majors have been in bankruptcy, lost employee pensions & furloughed
a quarter of pilots in 2001 & GFC, often for several years , in this century

The retirees from USA big three are in such a vastly superior position to guys who did 40 years at QF (Donald, Dooonaaald where is my pension ?)

QF mainline pilots are treated with such "disrespect" & work under such appalling repressing contracts

They will all go to the USA

Look at the resignation data , 100s every month quitting " I'm not going to take it anymore""

[maggot]

Yeah but some have, recently. FAA check during training and off to atlas etc

Qf bond but not much afaik

[Makiko]

People claim that , have to say I would be sceptical
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back

Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania

[soseg]

Originally Posted by Makiko

People claim that , have to say I would be sceptical
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back

Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania

It's almost 4pm in Sydney. Arent you meant to be patting puppies and doing yoga on a Friday? Which department in management do you work in?

The fact is, plenty new starters, or about-to-starters have given QF the flick. Why would you bother if you're say... 40 or older? You may never see a command.
Why would you bother if you've already done time overseas in a reputable airline like CX (before it went south), or the middle east? Sit as an SO for how long? Or get worked hard on the maggot for how long?
News flash buddy. Mainline has been shrinking for over 15 years now. The only progression mainline guys and girls are seeing is purely due to retirements. Go compare the fleet size of today versus 2010 or 2005.

Every new frame is going to QLink.

Stop trying to push your management narrative here. You're not being paid to sit on pprune. Get back to work.

[Makiko]

Patting puppies - do they actually do that " on campus" ?

Doesn't surprise me

But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys

The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done

As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline

Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus

But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.

The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management

Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat

Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world

Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening

[soseg]

Originally Posted by Makiko

Patting puppies - do they actually do that " on campus" ?

Doesn't surprise me

But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys

The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done

As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline

Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus

But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.

The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management

Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat

Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world

Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening

The part you got wrong was claiming nobody from QF has left, or is looking to leave.

Also , learn , how , to , comma and how to " use" " inverted " " commas".

Painful reading something that a 5th grader could type out more clearly.

[josephfeatherweight]

Originally Posted by Makiko

Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders,

You are talking about Qantas, yeah?

[MaxAuto]

Originally Posted by Slezy9

Apparently still 300 on the hold file, I guess it depends on how quickly it depletes.

Does that 300 include both off the street hires and subsidiary Pilots?

[Slezy9]

Originally Posted by MaxAuto

Does that 300 include both off the street hires and subsidiary Pilots?

I was only going off this article, Qantas wants to hire foreign pilots.

Quote from AIPA president,

There is no shortage of Australian pilots, with more than 300 highly qualified pilots on the waiting list for jobs at the Spirit of Australia

[maggot]

Originally Posted by MaxAuto

Does that 300 include both off the street hires and subsidiary Pilots?

That's the current hold pool
I heard they wish to deplete it before reopening or something like that.

[MaxAuto]

Originally Posted by maggot

That's the current hold pool
I heard they wish to deplete it before reopening or something like that.

Thanks for the info. I guess it also depends whether they’re still conducting interviews. That would prevent the pool from depleting.