Qantas Recruitment
I offer a little advice for the sky gods that have 'graduated' from QFPP in Zoowoomba.
You're failing your interviews for Qantas subsidiaries in spectacular fashion. Word is getting around.
Just because the word Qantas is loosely involved in your pilot training, does not mean that you are guaranteed a job at Qantas or any of its subsidiaries.
Please, prepare for your interviews properly. If you spent $100k or you're a female and got a Qantas grant for your training, at least spend $500 in an interview coaching session to prepare. Go to Flight Experience and do an introductory session to learn the characteristics of a jet.
Know your IFR knowledge back to front.
Sincerely, your future cockpit buddy.
You're failing your interviews for Qantas subsidiaries in spectacular fashion. Word is getting around.
Just because the word Qantas is loosely involved in your pilot training, does not mean that you are guaranteed a job at Qantas or any of its subsidiaries.
Please, prepare for your interviews properly. If you spent $100k or you're a female and got a Qantas grant for your training, at least spend $500 in an interview coaching session to prepare. Go to Flight Experience and do an introductory session to learn the characteristics of a jet.
Know your IFR knowledge back to front.
Sincerely, your future cockpit buddy.
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Likely 18 months at present rate
How are Qlink dash releasing the 130 or so they have on HF ?
Seniority or performance in selection process ? JQ release to ML on seniority , Network ?
Internals processed again in January 2024 , get another 150 or so & you are good until the end of 2025
Not seeing a lot of opportunity for applications to open to externals, but QF have been telling people this since 2016 - we hire to group & then you can jump around
Looking all closed up in the USA atm for Regional FO entry - game changes yet again
How are Qlink dash releasing the 130 or so they have on HF ?
Seniority or performance in selection process ? JQ release to ML on seniority , Network ?
Internals processed again in January 2024 , get another 150 or so & you are good until the end of 2025
Not seeing a lot of opportunity for applications to open to externals, but QF have been telling people this since 2016 - we hire to group & then you can jump around
Looking all closed up in the USA atm for Regional FO entry - game changes yet again
Yes they will be quitting in their hundreds
It would be so tempting to leave your home country legacy , that has never (well 50 years) made a pilot compulsory redundant
to go work on a two year renewable visa , in a country where almost all majors have been in bankruptcy, lost employee pensions & furloughed
a quarter of pilots in 2001 & GFC, often for several years , in this century
The retirees from USA big three are in such a vastly superior position to guys who did 40 years at QF (Donald, Dooonaaald where is my pension ?)
QF mainline pilots are treated with such "disrespect" & work under such appalling repressing contracts
They will all go to the USA
Look at the resignation data , 100s every month quitting " I'm not going to take it anymore""
It would be so tempting to leave your home country legacy , that has never (well 50 years) made a pilot compulsory redundant
to go work on a two year renewable visa , in a country where almost all majors have been in bankruptcy, lost employee pensions & furloughed
a quarter of pilots in 2001 & GFC, often for several years , in this century
The retirees from USA big three are in such a vastly superior position to guys who did 40 years at QF (Donald, Dooonaaald where is my pension ?)
QF mainline pilots are treated with such "disrespect" & work under such appalling repressing contracts
They will all go to the USA
Look at the resignation data , 100s every month quitting " I'm not going to take it anymore""
Last edited by Makiko; 9th Jun 2023 at 02:08.
People claim that , have to say I would be sceptical
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back
Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back
Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania
Last edited by Makiko; 9th Jun 2023 at 04:14.
People claim that , have to say I would be sceptical
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back
Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania
Interesting decision especially if they got in before A scale Airbus SO closed
As you would be earning less money in the USA, living on the other side of the world on a two year (okay renewable) contract , oh & the joys of a 4 day "commute" monthly, glocks at the primary school. Wokey stuff to another level , " interesting" leaders, smashing around the world for 17 days straight - staying 4 star unstable roster. Yes some parts would be fun , but there would indeed be some challenges . Each to their own
Atlas quoted "average earnings" based on Covid danger zone payments - they were wildly exaggerated in terms of what you would get now
But yes I do know some guys from subsidiaries who went & more than one who is begging for old job back
Its exactly the same reason why QF isn't going to get anyone apply to join A220 from Air France, Delta, Air Canada , Swiss . Leaving a premium/legacy to go join 2nd tier - not a great idea. NJS should send their recruiting team out to Tanzania
The fact is, plenty new starters, or about-to-starters have given QF the flick. Why would you bother if you're say... 40 or older? You may never see a command.
Why would you bother if you've already done time overseas in a reputable airline like CX (before it went south), or the middle east? Sit as an SO for how long? Or get worked hard on the maggot for how long?
News flash buddy. Mainline has been shrinking for over 15 years now. The only progression mainline guys and girls are seeing is purely due to retirements. Go compare the fleet size of today versus 2010 or 2005.
Every new frame is going to QLink.
Stop trying to push your management narrative here. You're not being paid to sit on pprune. Get back to work.
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Patting puppies - do they actually do that " on campus" ?
Doesn't surprise me
But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys
The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done
As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline
Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus
But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.
The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management
Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat
Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world
Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening
Doesn't surprise me
But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys
The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done
As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline
Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus
But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.
The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management
Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat
Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world
Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening
Last edited by Makiko; 9th Jun 2023 at 06:25.
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Patting puppies - do they actually do that " on campus" ?
Doesn't surprise me
But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys
The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done
As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline
Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus
But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.
The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management
Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat
Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world
Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening
Doesn't surprise me
But face facts a lot of the QF Groups pilots enjoy spending time in the " Safe Space" stripping down to their underwear & jumping into some soft toys
The Group has been appallingly managed , its beyond words the departing one & goodness knows what his competitor for CEO would have done
As we all got to see his "talent" at another Airline
Oh & the Chap before Current one , got "no respect" from the Americans so took his hissy fit all the way to Airbus
But the group pilots have been served even worse by their Unions & walked into every rookie trap set by the buffoon management.
The "let's all resign" mob (afap) allow contracts to lapse by years & years & AIPA - well how many leaders over past few years. AIPA seems like a training ground
for QF management , where previous leaders take acquired skills & boost their personal financial situation by joining Airline management
Pilots do not have the skills , experience , qualifications to be running trade unions - it is one disaster after another . 787 contract & then agreeing to a B Scale , spooked by a kindergarten
level threat
Easy to play the man , but tell me what parts of above post I got wrong. We all know people don't leave legacies to chance their arm
in 2nd tier on other side of the world
Same old drama statements , folks jumping ship from HF - we all know that isn't happening
The part you got wrong was claiming nobody from QF has left, or is looking to leave.
Also , learn , how , to , comma and how to " use" " inverted " " commas".
Painful reading something that a 5th grader could type out more clearly.
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I was only going off this article, Qantas wants to hire foreign pilots.
Quote from AIPA president,
Quote from AIPA president,
There is no shortage of Australian pilots, with more than 300 highly qualified pilots on the waiting list for jobs at the Spirit of Australia
