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Old 25th Nov 2023, 21:51
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Got the no from QF, 6000+ all jet time ex Qantas group employee…makes me wonder what i missed...
You've worked for Qantas before and you are experienced?
It probably gave them shivers knowing you would smell BS a mile away. I suspect they value compliance more than competence.
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Old 25th Nov 2023, 22:14
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Got the no from QF, 6000+ all jet time ex Qantas group employee…makes me wonder what i missed…got told:

Qantas was fortunate to receive a high volume of qualified applications which met or exceeded both the advertised and preferred minimums”
Don’t be put off - if it’s what you really want, try again when you can.
Unfortunately QF have always been able to be ultra picky..
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Old 25th Nov 2023, 23:22
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Originally Posted by Lapon
You've worked for Qantas before and you are experienced?
It probably gave them shivers knowing you would smell BS a mile away. I suspect they value compliance more than competence.
God you spruik some absolute bullsh*t
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Old 25th Nov 2023, 23:42
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God you spruik some absolute bullsh*t
Relax champ, just trying to make a guy I don't know feel better about something neither of us have an answer to. Not trying to offend the internet.
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Old 25th Nov 2023, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Eaglerocker
How come there would be less chance if there were not as many applications?
Because Jetstar are significantly down on people and can't afford to let them leave.
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Old 25th Nov 2023, 23:58
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Got the no from QF, 6000+ all jet time ex Qantas group employee…makes me wonder what i missed…got told:

Qantas was fortunate to receive a high volume of qualified applications which met or exceeded both the advertised and preferred minimums”
Sadly when it comes to the murky world of airline recruitment you just never know, chances are a human didn’t even set eyes on the individual applications prior to the first ‘no’. It will purely depend on whatever criteria they have loaded into the system, 6000 hours may be an advantage or a disadvantage or of no help whatsoever, likewise being an ex Qantas Group employee may no mean anything. I remember going to an Airline interview with a mate, he had a superior application in all respects from my point of view, he went home after day one and I got the job, who the hell knows as he pretty much got the same cut and paste as your reply. If Qantas is where you want to be try again when you can.
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 00:01
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Originally Posted by LostontheLOC
Because Jetstar are significantly down on people and can't afford to let them leave.
Correct, I was told they are authorised to release 2 pilots per month across Australia and NZ and no more. Considering there must be at lease 100 who have a ‘yes’ we are talking years without adding to the hold pool from Jetstar. I know a guy who got a yes in 2021 and has been told maybe May 24 for a start.

Also have two mates on the yes from Qantas for the past year who also have yes’ from Air NZ and interviews with Emirates in December. They will take whichever one comes up first, I suspect it won’t be Qantas.
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 17:36
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Got the no from QF, 6000+ all jet time ex Qantas group employee…makes me wonder what i missed…got told:

Qantas was fortunate to receive a high volume of qualified applications which met or exceeded both the advertised and preferred minimums”
Sorry high flyer. I know you had put a lot of prep in.
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
It will purely depend on whatever criteria they have loaded into the system, 6000 hours may be an advantage or a disadvantage or of no help whatsoever, likewise being an ex Qantas Group employee may no mean anything.l
Pretty sure they do reference checks on all former group employees, and that’s the first step….. I suspect a no with those hours would be linked to a reference. Even if high flyer thinks they left the group on good terms, his file might say otherwise….
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Got the no from QF, 6000+ all jet time ex Qantas group employee…makes me wonder what i missed…got told:

Qantas was fortunate to receive a high volume of qualified applications which met or exceeded both the advertised and preferred minimums”
Damn, that sucks.... Could it have been something random like accidentally picking the wrong option for a pre-requisite qual question (selecting 'no' to ATPL exams completed instead of 'yes' or something)....

Have you been out of Qantas group for more than 2 years?
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 23:20
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Got the no from QF, 6000+ all jet time ex Qantas group employee…makes me wonder what i missed…got told:

Qantas was fortunate to receive a high volume of qualified applications which met or exceeded both the advertised and preferred minimums”
Are you still in the two year “black ban” period? We were all told that if we leave the group they would not accept an application for any group airline for two years.

Once you served your penance period, the first step would be a reference from your manager.
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 03:01
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
Sadly when it comes to the murky world of airline recruitment you just never know, chances are a human didn’t even set eyes on the individual applications prior to the first ‘no’. It will purely depend on whatever criteria they have loaded into the system, 6000 hours may be an advantage or a disadvantage or of no help whatsoever, likewise being an ex Qantas Group employee may no mean anything. I remember going to an Airline interview with a mate, he had a superior application in all respects from my point of view, he went home after day one and I got the job, who the hell knows as he pretty much got the same cut and paste as your reply. If Qantas is where you want to be try again when you can.

Thanks Ollie Onion, yeah i agree it all depends on the day and half the recruitment process is based on the people who interview you have a big role.
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
Don’t be put off - if it’s what you really want, try again when you can.
Unfortunately QF have always been able to be ultra picky..
Thanks mate, the big question is when will the opportunity present itself again…
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 03:33
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Sorry high flyer. I know you had put a lot of prep in.
Thanks for your help !! Was a bit hard digesting the email but thought id put it up here as no one talks about it.
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 03:35
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Originally Posted by Sparrows.
Pretty sure they do reference checks on all former group employees, and that’s the first step….. I suspect a no with those hours would be linked to a reference. Even if high flyer thinks they left the group on good terms, his file might say otherwise….
Left on really good terms thanks for the concern though. Golden rule of not burning a bridge as you might have to cross it one day !!
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Originally Posted by RollThroughApproved
Are you still in the two year “black ban” period? We were all told that if we leave the group they would not accept an application for any group airline for two years.

Once you served your penance period, the first step would be a reference from your manager.
Its been over 4 years now….
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 03:51
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Thanks for your help !! Was a bit hard digesting the email but thought id put it up here as no one talks about it.
Don't take it personal - as mentioned in an earlier post, I know of others that suffered the same fate even though some are north of 10 000 hours TT.

'They' will have you believe they only employ the best, as it suits their personal (looking-in-the-mirror) view, but yet, ATR chaps from Auckland are asking for SHL testing advice
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Originally Posted by RollThroughApproved
Are you still in the two year “black ban” period? We were all told that if we leave the group they would not accept an application for any group airline for two years.

Once you served your penance period, the first step would be a reference from your manager.
Where does this unwritten 24 month ‘black ban’ come from?

Group Policy says the following:

‘Where are former (or current) Employee is being considered for a position with a different Qantas group company within 3 months of their termination date, approval is required from Corporate Industrial Relations’


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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Thanks for your help !! Was a bit hard digesting the email but thought id put it up here as no one talks about it.
don’t give up mate, I got in the third attempt at age 45. I was happy in between applications to join hence the age bit!
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Originally Posted by high_flyer747
Its been over 4 years now….
It could be a myriad of reasons. For the recruitment period just closed I believe they had thousands of applicants for a few hundred positions. I guess a lot of suitable people weren’t lucky enough to get invited for testing. And a lot who did won’t make the final cut.

As others have said some are successful after multiple applications (and current plans have them recruiting hundreds per year for a decade) so there’s nothing precluding you from joining in the future, or with your jet experience there are a lot of opportunities in a market where het experienced pilots are in demand.
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