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Old 30th Oct 2011, 13:37
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Not that long to go now.

What I am wondering however, is what will happen immediately after judgment is entered in favour of one of the two parties? From what I have read so far, passengers scheduled to fly on Monday have already been notified that their flights have been cancelled.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 13:42
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Whilst we're waiting for FWA, I'd just like to express my appreciation for Leigh_Howard and the work he's put in tonight to allow us to keep up with proceedings.
Yes, a big thanks to Leigh Howard and others following proceedings closely. It's nice to be in the age of twitter... bet that would have been handy in '89 !!


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Old 30th Oct 2011, 13:48
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What I am wondering however, is what will happen immediately after judgment is entered in favour of one of the two parties? From what I have read so far, passengers scheduled to fly on Monday have already been notified that their flights have been cancelled.
More worrying is what if one of the parties appeals to the High Court. IF qantas gets its way it could mean the end to unionism in Australia as we know it. Do you think the unions would give up and not appeal
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I don't know how drastic the outcomes could be, but there seems to be a lot at stake here. If Qantas management win, it will surely have poignant results for other unions.

I think that they will think that it's worth fighting this one all the way. If the Unions lose this and then give up, they may have lost the battle, but they will have also the lost war. They will be in so much of a weaker negotiating position. At any moment knowing they could be trumped, it will be another example of breaking unions' backs. Any (un)qualified opinions on this?
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:02
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I don't see how anyone is going to win out of this in the long term. Win or lose - everyone who works for Qantas will feel the pain.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:05
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It's only 10pm here in Perth, I feel sorry for those in the Eastern States...
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:08
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Yes, past 1AM here... we must be close to a decision now though.... no sign of FWA though... they shouldn't be too much longer....given the time, FWA might need to look through it's own workplace conditions (fair call Leigh Howard)...

....still waiting... Judge's associates missing...
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:15
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Is there some sort of live stream or publication wrt to the FWA ruling? Or are you just getting this off the SMH?
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Interesting read, while we wait:

Qantas CEO Alan Joyce made phone call to PM Julia Gillard but was ignored | News.com.au
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:16
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Google ABC 24 stream

or follow this

ABC iview
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:19
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And there are a number of Pprune_Twitter (I mean the latter, of course, but PPRuNe edits it to be PPPRuNe only) users who are doing a stirling job at keeping us updated live... Ben Thompson, Leigh Howard, to name 2.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:22
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If Q international is losing $200 mil a year, how is ANZ doing it? They seem to be OK. Then again they have a CEO who engages with the workforce apparently.....

It's not rocket science...
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I'm sure Qantas now blaming Gillard for this is going to go down well with the government... What a bunch of idiots...

What a bunch of muppets!

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Yes, the TwiTte r guys are doing a great job. Keep the updates coming....
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:26
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"We just......"

Nuff said. Clown.

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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:29
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All still quiet at FWA, for those without TwitPPRuNe...
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...30 mins now passed... looks like it might be a bit longer for this decision... should happen within the next hour though...
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:39
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Vote Now:

Poll: Has Qantas gone too far by grounding its entire fleet and locking out workers?

Qantas crisis grips nation
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 14:39
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#qantas message from judges chambers: not far off.
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@SimonBl - The disingenuousness of AJ is beyond belief. He actually claims to have tried to call Julia Gillard, to get her approval of Govt intervention, so that he would not then proceed with the lockout?

However - he must have been the only person in Australia, who apparently did not know that Gillard was totally tied up, right at that very time, in the CHOGM talkfest, and could not possibly answer his call in the time frame he set!!

This arrogant prick must think we are all total f***king idiots, to believe the crap he spouts!!
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