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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:13
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Joyce got what he wanted
How is he going do deal with the staff???
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:14
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Live interviews on ABC News 24 now...
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:16
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A person would have to feel utterly and completely sick going back to work for that QF Board under circumstances like this.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:18
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Shouldn't all Qantas pilots now say they are too fatigued "stressed" to operate for the next day?

That was the companies excrement...

How can THEIR safety risk assesment judge that it is now OK for the crew to operate flights?
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:20
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I can imagine, rightfully so, Q employees tomorrow seeking medical advice due to stress....

But is that what Joyce and his mates want? Do they really want to break this company?

He claimed today the staff are trashing the brand. Reality is, he and the board have ruined the brand and have been doing so for quite a while..

I don't know how those people can sleep let alone enjoy their wealth..

I'm disgusted.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:21
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Good to hear someone on TV making some sense right now: "Alan Joyce has failed!" (ACTU Sec. Jeff Lawrence)
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:22
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Qantas 1, Unions zero

Termination of industrial action now... How does this play out now?
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:23
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AJ, LC and LS have shown the staff, and all of Australia, their true colours. I hope these guys sleep well tonight after shafting thousands of Aussie employees and their families.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:23
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Hold the line guys - the fat lady hasn't yet begun to sing.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:23
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hear hear and some posters should have a bit more patience and read and understand what is happening here.

It is not over by a long shot.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:26
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Jeff Lawrence of the ACTU is indeed putting a very positive spin on the ruling.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:27
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I challenge AJ to show his face at an airport in the next 24 hours and face the music
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:29
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How do you stop "work to rule"? Shouldn't we be following QF procedures all the time?
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:33
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To play the devils advocate here.

A company wants to spread its wings, make money, and be a player in the "world wide market".

How best to begin?

#1 Be competitive.

#2 Have a brand that has been tested and tried.

#3 Be experienced

# 4 Be able to undercut its competition.

QANTAS has all of the above and much more. BUT.....Its workforce lives in a fantasy, "living and working in Australia" is apparently living the dream AKA the bee all and end all of the ultimate Australian dream. What a joke, living in Australia at the end of the day is expensive and unsustainable. A lot of people in Oz need to get out and understand that there is a BIG world out there. Is like the play ground at school! You cant win a battle on the play ground saying that "I"need to be treated right.

QANTAS is spreading its wings and will ultimately win, and guess what living in Australia is GREAT, but at the end of the day is not "living the dream" as some would believe.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:35
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every time history repeats, the cost goes up

from the SMH:
One our readers raises the issue on the effect on essential medical services:
"I was meant to see patients in K tomorrow morning for scans to check on their cancer status but now I'm not able to. Qantas is the only carrier of urgent medical isotopes. Whilst I support moves to bring the dispute to a head I think the national rather than political interests should have taken precedence. I would like to know how Alan and the board feel about the impact and distress caused to patients right across the country? Perhaps we should debate the need to a nationalised segment of Australian aviation to ensure continuation of essential community services".
this stunt was pre-determined, planned for and contingencies put in place prior (some better than others)
LC intimated as much, after the AGM, with comments of a 'mandate' to run QANTAS as he/they see fit.

nice use of initial confusion over cause of grounded flights: was it unions?

the timing perfect: CHOGM = surprise and max embarrassment to the govt,
1st tuesday in november = max disruption to celebs & vips.
not to mention all those others stranded around the world..

QANTAS spin blames unions and will continue to do so.
(not seen much of olivia lately, locked out is she?)

the damage to brand and image will be astronomical and this will bring AJ and his cohorts to the brink, it's all about perception, the vibe, and i reckon they've misread the whole thing - it could go any where from here...

unity is key

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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:43
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The guys at the top kill off Qantas within 6 months.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 15:48
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Wonder who decided this code red should be called?

"A CRISIS was declared in the Australian tourism industry today as the workplace law umpire continued a prolonged hearing on the Qantas lock-out."

Give you one guess....
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