What Cockpit? MK V

[evansb]

BLERIOT 110.



Contuation of: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240849&page=18

[paulc]

Sikorsky Ilya moromets

[cringe]

evansb has it again. :ok: Your go.

Blériot 110, a duration and distance record holder, was also known as Blériot Zappata.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk58x.jpg

[JDK]

I'm glad I didn't waste any more time trying to get that one - and I thought I knew my old aryplanes too!

Neat.

[oncemorealoft]

Can someone post something more pretty - the last two aircraft have been real 'dogs'! :}

[evansb]

The Bleriot made for deep research! This one is a bit grainy, but its the best I could find of type.

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV1YJ-wRAi85wnxAD2PGAxDw327Y4UMYOi2TVZ2z6QRq1XGjuuUoHJJC_8EUsEmN_4 c5EXloXrlqIba-mabMVCFCjHVjyqDm0VA8_acdtLxjmSll37WbuChA

[MReyn24050]

Looks like the rear cockpit to a 1940/50s aircraft, however seems a great deal of instrumentation for a rear cockpit?

[evansb]

Both front and rear cockpits are visible in the photograph. The placards are in English.

[JDK]

American English?

It's a stumper. I've a Grumman feel though.

[MReyn24050]

Curtiss SBC 4 Helldiver perchance?

[evansb]

Curtiss SBC-4 Helldiver it is!:D :D The last bi-plane to serve the U.S. military. To "oncemorealoft", beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the Helldiver is a bit of a dog too. Pehaps Mel will post a beauty..

[MReyn24050]

Thanks for that. I do not think this aircraft could be called a dog.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz217.jpg
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Seems to be harder than I expected.This aircraft first flew early 1940s and was said to be of considerable refinement over its predecessors.

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was used by two axis air forces.

[Tim Inder]

Tricky.
I see it has Italian instruments. Combining that with your clue about it being an improvement over its predecessors, I guessed Macchi Mc205, but it doesn't seem to match the pics I have for it...

Close?

[cringe]

Reggiane Re-2005

[Tim Inder]

That was my second choice, but THAT didn't match either :)

[JDK]

Italian operated Junkers Ju87?

[MReyn24050]

Tim, cringe has it :ok: :D It is the cockpit of the Reggiane Re-2005 see attached photograph.
http://www.aldini.it/re2005/performances.htm
The Reggiane Re 2005 was defined by many as "the most beautiful fighter of the axis".In fact,the Sagittario was a really beautiful airplane, with a clean and fascinating shape,but moreover it had exceptional flying charaterisics ,very powerful armament and exceptional handling.It was "the fighter" but it was limited by a slow production during the war, also due to the american bombing runs over the Reggiane factory.
You have control cringe
Mel

[cringe]

Thanks, Mel. Here we go:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5995/unk59jj8.jpg

[MReyn24050]

That looks like a three bladed prop in front, possibly Italian late 1930s?

[cringe]

You're not wrong. :)

[MReyn24050]

IMAM Ro 37 or the Caproni Ca.335 / SABCA S. 47
perhaps?

[cringe]

Close, but neither of those types.

[MReyn24050]

If not the IMAM Ro 37 how about the Meridionali Imam Ro-41 or Ro-44. In fact definitely the Ro-44 as the 41 only had a two bladed prop?

[cringe]

IMAM Ro-44 it is. :ok: Well played once again, Mel. Over to you.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8478/unk59xwd4.jpg

[MReyn24050]

cring thanks for that it was a great challenge. I think this one will be a great deal easier.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz191.jpg
Mel

[paulc]

Tupolev Tu160 'blackjack'

[MReyn24050]

Sorry, Not the Tupolev Tu160 'blackjack'

[paulc]

Tu22 Backfire ?

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was not built by Tupolev.

[Wanderin_dave]

Sukhoi Su-24 Fencer?

[BSD]

You all know how I can't resist an of-the-wall WAG, so here it comes:

F-111, possibly the Raven version?

Cheers!

BSD.

[MReyn24050]

Wanderin_dave
Sorry, not the Su Su-24 Fencer.
BSD. Sorry your WAG is wrong I am afraid and it is not any version of the F111.
Mel

[paulc]

Sukhoi Su32

[MReyn24050]

paulc
You have it:ok: It is the Sukhoi Su32 (also known as the Su34) :D
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/su-34_01.jpg
You have control

[paulc]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/PaulChandler/th_cockpitquiz.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/PaulChandler/cockpitquiz.jpg)

[MReyn24050]

How about the Douglas A-3B Skywarrior.

[paulc]

yes - that is the correct answer (will have to try hard to find more difficult ones) :)

[MReyn24050]

I think that this one will not take long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz204.jpg

[paulc]

HP42 ? (possibly but not really sure - filler)

[MReyn24050]

paulc
Sorry, Not the HP.42. This aircraft was several years later than the Heracles.

[evansb]

The Short "Shetland".

[MReyn24050]

evansb. It is the right answer, it is indeed the Short "Shetland".:D :ok:
You have control.
Mel

[evansb]

Thanks Mel.



http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJVzmLGH4vc3CnP6Y1rLIgk4hHu_PUPLJF1R53yLtV64od8tJwh pFT941rsbxaX0OJPF2oB5-rXHtUQH9Vr3eV4x4aYr-ysaCRQR4VtYo2EZ29t1T_yXBVYbk

[paulc]

Yak 50? .......

[evansb]

Sorry, not a YAK-50.

[MReyn24050]

North American Aviation X-15 perhaps?

[evansb]

Not the X-15. Getting warm.

[evansb]

Mel, You ARE correct. It is a North American X-15. :ok: I feared this would happen one day, and it has. My source for the photo was the #%&@= archives, and it appears they have misidentified the cockpit. They placed it under the #%&@= file and prior to posting, I did not cross-reference it to any other #%&@= cockpit photo. Sorry:{ . This one is a wash, especially as the X-15 has
been done before. I'll be e-mailing the offending archive a missle ASAP. Sorry again for wasting everyone's time. You have control.

[MReyn24050]

Not a problem. I shouldn't think this will cause a problem either.Sorry it is not more in focus.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz194.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I did not think this would last this long. Clue is that this multi-purpose aircraft first flew early 1990s.

[oncemorealoft]

Is it the Edgeley Optica?

I'll answer my own question - it's not! Just Googled to see if I spelt 'Edgeley' right and realised the layout is wrong and the optica dates from the 80s. I didn't realise it was that long ago -must be getting old...

[jabberwok]

Let's start the ball rolling with a wild guess then. Dornier?

[MReyn24050]

oncemorealoft.

As you rightly say it is not the Edgeley Optica.

jabberwok

This one was not by Dornier. However you were right in it not being from the UK or the USA.

[MReyn24050]

This is more in focus

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz194a.jpg

[paulc]

PZL Wilga ?

[MReyn24050]

paulc
Not the PZL Wilga, however it was designed to fulfill a similar role. To date this aircraft has not been a success.

[evansb]

Yakovlev Yak-112.

[MReyn24050]

evansb.
You have it, it is the YAK 112:ok:
You have control
Mel

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. I'm presently unable to post photos, so if someone hasn't posted recently, and would like to, please be my guest.:)

[evansb]

The next mystery cockpit:

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV2dmHe-6ptr3rTzOlfgWwfT7IcPPhwYt_c3SADjclfiOv-vqtfPHA4kDg8Fa_s32ex5KH4-EVivGWgPQV0RPvFz8Wbmzc71oUpmI36ICpPE1xoe1A3C0yX8

[foxmoth]

Hurricane?
(I have not checked the list of "done" aircraft and will be amazed if this is right and it has not been done already!)
Mods - how about the uptodate list of cockpits either as a sticky or as the first item when "What cockpit" is reset?

[HappyJack260]

DH Vampire - throttle looks like one from a jet...

[MReyn24050]

The Control Spade Grip looks exactly like the one used on starboard side of the Boulton Paul Balliol, VL917 so a wild guess either Boulton Paul P.111 or the P.120.

[evansb]

Sorry mates, not a Hurricane, a Vampire, nor a Boulton Paul Balliol.

[jabberwok]

Supermarine. Maybe the Attacker?

[MReyn24050]

Hawker Tempest or Typhoon?

[evansb]

Not the Tempest, Typhoon, nor the Supermarine Attacker.

[wz662]

Miles Magister - at least that one is visible above the starboard canopy rail. As to the one we are looking into - Martin Baker MB5

[evansb]

Not the Martin Baker MB5. Only a few were built, and the aircraft never fired a shot in anger. As for the aeroplane in the background, could it be a Parnall 382 Heck III?;)

[MReyn24050]

Can we take it that this is a British aircraft? The layout of the panel is similar to the Typhoon in that the Oil Pressure and Oil Temperature gauges are the same type and in the same position. Control column is also similar to the one used on the Sea Fury. Am I in the right era?

[MReyn24050]

Hawker Henley or the Hawker Tornado perhaps?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Hawker Henley or Hawker Tornado.

It is indeed British however. It first flew in 1946. Of the few that were built, not all were flown.

[MReyn24050]

Two aircraft come to mind. One being the Blackburn B-48 (Firecrest) and the other the Short Sturgeon however the Sturgeon was a twin which eliminates that one.

[evansb]

Similar to the Blackburn B-48 and the Martin-Baker MB5, but sorry not either, nor the Short Sturgeon. The manufacturer of the mystery aircraft has been mentioned in an earlier response today.

[MReyn24050]

British Aircraft Manufacturers mention to date:-
Blackburn
Boulton Paul
De Havilland
Hawker
Martin Baker
Miles
Supermarine
Of these the only ones to have had aircraft with first flights in 1946 were De Havilland (DH 108), Miles (Marathon), Shorts (Sturgeon) and Supermarine (Attacker).
Both Sturgeon and Attacker have already been eliminated, the Marathon eliminates itself. You state "Similar to the Blackburn B-48 and the Martin-Baker MB5" but the DH 108 was certainly nothing like the Blackburn or MB.5 also even though only 3 DH 108s were built all of them flew so it is not the DH 108.
The only other aircraft that flew for the first time in 1946, that were remotely like the aircraft concerned were the DH Chipmunk and Westland Wyvern but I somehow do not think this cockpit was from the Wyvern or most certainly not the Chipmunk. Could you check your first flight date?

[oncemorealoft]

Is it a Supermarine Spiteful?

[MReyn24050]

oncemorealoft
It could be the Supermarine Spiteful. However it does not tie in with the clue given by evansb.
He stated that the aircraft type concerned first flew in 1946.
The first Spiteful to fly was NN660, a Mk XIV Spitfire fuselage with the the Spiteful laminar flow wing. It flew on the 30th June 1944.
The second prototype NN664 built to the full production standard of Specification F.1/43 was flown by Jeffrey Quill on the 8th January 1945.
The first production aircraft RB515 flew in April 1945.
Likewise the first Seafang, Spiteful F.14 fitted with an arrestor hook flew early in 1945.

[evansb]

According to three sources, one being www.supermarine-spitfire.co.uk (http://www.supermarine-spitefire.co.uk) the Seafang first flew in 1946.

A Seafang it is!

[MReyn24050]

evansb
I stand corrected.As you say the true Seafang prototypes it appears did fly in 1946.
According to C F Andrews and E B Morgan's book Supermarine Aircraft since 1914 published by Putnam.
"As early as October 1943, Supermarine were envisaging applying the laminer flow wing to the Seafire XV and wrote their own specification 474 under Type 382 for such a development using the Merlin 61. This was their own initiative but it evinced no response in official places. Later on, however, naval interest was aroused and official specification N.5/45 was issued for a laminer flow fighter for the Fleet Air Arm. Spiteful F.14 RB520 was fitted with a sting-type hook early in 1945 as the interim prototype Seafang."
The two proper prototypes flew in the following year. One of these represented the production Seafang F Mk 31 (VB893) with Griffon 61 engine and a long-stroke undercarriage, but non-folding wings. The other represented the Seafang F Mk 32 (VB895) with a Griffon 89 engine with contraprop, and upward-folding wings.

I am not sure if the Seafang Cockpit was similar to the Spiteful, however oncemorealoft has earned the next go

[oncemorealoft]

Thanks evansb and MReyn24050...

It was more a process of elimination than knowledge and as I have no access to a cockpit that has not already featured plus it was MReyn24050 who actually mentioned the Seafang (the Spiteful's salty sister), I'll let you take the baton.

[MReyn24050]

evansb
That was a great challenge.
oncemorealoft
No problem. Here is an easy one to keeps things moving.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz168.jpg
Mel

[BSD]

Morning Mel,

How about an F4 Corsair?

One might even add " PerCHANCE? "

BSD

p.s. allright, allright, I apologise for that appalling pun!

[MReyn24050]

BSD

Good Morning to you. Sorry this one is not the Chance-Vought's F4 Corsair
But nevertheless it was almost worth taking that CHANCE.

Mel

[Speedpig]

T6 Texan?
or Harvard

[MReyn24050]

Speedpig
Neither the T6 nor Harvard I am afraid.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Surprised that this is still not identified. BSD took a CHANCE it just happened to be the wrong "CHANCE".

[rodthesod]

Ref post #83 - quite tricky this game with no picture as clue!
Wild guess V-173 / XF5U 'Flying Flapjack'

[MReyn24050]

rodthesod "Ref post #83 - quite tricky this game with no picture as clue!
Wild guess V-173 / XF5U '[I]Flying Flapjack"
Do not understand why you cannot see the photograph at Post #83 :confused: . BSD must have seen it to make his reply at Post #84.Just viewed it on another computer without problems. However I will post it again.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz168.jpg

[foxmoth]

No problem seeing either image here - just not had the chance to work it out yet.:(

[MReyn24050]

Foxmouth.
Many thanks. I am surprised BSD did not follow up with his intitial pun.

[evansb]

(Chance)-Vought OS2U Kingfisher

[foxmoth]

Foxmouth.
I am getting used to people getting this wrong on other forums (fora?), but on the H & N forum I would have expected better:rolleyes: :{ :* := :mad:

[MReyn24050]

I am getting used to people getting this wrong on other forums (fora?), but on the H & N forum I would have expected better:rolleyes: :{ :* := :mad:
You have my most sincere apologies :uhoh: :O . However I did at least acknowledge the trouble you took to advise me that you did see the photographs :)
evansb
You are correct it is the Chance-Vought OS2U Kingfisher :ok: , you have control.
Mel

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV9ZjO79-zYsuJt381jLGGdadGFzBmG9_fklbKfIkrOKEO9Esoj_Zatrn1C2WfqaBO9nP zmkGlp0cpMEvcYUCmmvao1SMzlpSyhETmyXCrpsXlFJKdQTSX5I

[cringe]

Canadair CL-215 ?

[evansb]

Canadair CL-215 it is.:ok: cringe, you have control.

[cringe]

Thanks, evansb. Something slightly older:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6752/unk60oy1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Hi cringe. Great to see another challenge from you. Looking at the canopy structure I will go for the P.Z.L.26, five of which took part in the IIIrd Challenge de Tourisme International held in Poland in 1934.
Mel

[cringe]

Hi Mel. Bull's-eye with the PZL-26! :D Five were indeed built for the 1934 Challenge Internationale des Avions de Tourisme (http://www.sampol.de/angielski/Challenge/challenge_eng.htm).

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6107/pzl26mm9.jpg

Over to you.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks cringe.
In my search for finding more about this aircraft I found the following picture of the instrument panel. I was intrigued :hmm: by what looks like a starting handle stuck in the middle of the panel. Looking at your photograph it looks as though this handle is stowed to the right of the windscreen. I would love to know the purpose of this handle. Can anyone provide the answer.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/pzl26-3.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I am sure this will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz203.jpg
Mel

[dakkg651]

P26 Peashooter?

[MReyn24050]

dakkg651. Sorry not the P26 Peashooter.

[Speedpig]

Did you ask that because the craft appears to be the colour of mushy peas?

[evansb]

Polikarpov I-15?

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Not the Polikarpov I-15 I am afraid

[Tim Inder]

How about the I-16 then?

[cringe]

Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1

[MReyn24050]

Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1
Like this one you mean?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/BolkhovitinovBIFighter2.jpg
Sorry Tim, cringe has it:ok: It is the cockpit of the Bolkhovitinov BI Rocket Fighter also known as the Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1.
You have control
Mel

[cringe]

Thanks, Mel. Hope this one goes quickly:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2378/unk61tb1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Hi cringe
Looks possibly like a tri-motor. East European perhaps.
Mel

[cringe]

Hi, Mel. A tri-motor, yes. Not from Eastern Europe. It's a military type, based on a civilian transport.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks cringe. How about it being the Breda 46?

[cringe]

Spot on again, Mel. :ok: Breda Ba.46 bomber was based on Ba.32. Your turn.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9676/ba461nf6.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks cringe. Only one built I believe. Something a bit lighter.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz18.jpg
Mel

[evansb]

Hendy 3308 Heck?

[MReyn24050]

evansb

This was not a Parnell aircraft. Right era though.

[evansb]

Is it a British Klemm Eagle Mk.1?

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Not the British Klemm Eagle Mk.1 It is in fact the BA Eagle 2 Registration G-AFAX. 37 produced and G-AFAX was the only one with a fixed undercarriage and was built in 1937. You have control.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/BAEagle2.jpg

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. The aircraft displays truly classic lines. The two cockpit photos I was able to access showed a nearly identical instrument panel with the exception of a crank handle on the right side, and no nifty firewall mounted pockets to hold charts, the POH and a 1938 issue of Aeroplane Monthly.

Please note I'll be able to post a photo at approx. 2130UTC.

[evansb]

Can you guess the new mystery cockpit?

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJVzcIrazvGuXkV_fMF0nMcO59jtSAFaonL_xNfOIPf0m4ZuzaW 9fLRZHFQ9-CJmm-plxjPbdGxudqZNRZX1_8-UgwnQ8wFlf29jGcnrM7ED73A-KUB0xUeic

[MReyn24050]

evansb

It is certainly a Percival aircraft and so I will go for either a Percival Prentice or Provost.
Mel

[cringe]

Edgar Percival EP-9 Prospector

[evansb]

Edgar Percival EP-9 is correct. cringe has control.

[cringe]

Thanks, evansb. Let's try this next:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2407/unk62gq7.jpg

[MReyn24050]

evansb

We have had the EP-9 before, in What Cockpit II at Post 381. However seing as I posted that one I should have got this one :ugh:. Not to worry well done cringe :ok: :D.

cringe

Just a wild guess here the P.Z.L. 130?

Mel

[evansb]

RFB Fantrainer.

[cringe]

I confess to having a deja-vu moment with the EP-9, but didn't have the list of previous challenges at hand to check if it had been done already.

Well done evansb, the Fantrainer 400 it was. :ok: Your go.

http://www.flugvergnuegen.de/FT_400/FT400c.JPG

[evansb]

Thanks cringe. My pleasure. I won't be posting a photo this round, I would however, ask some ppruner who hasn't posted in a while, or ever,
to post a cockpit photo. Cheers!:)

[aerobelly]

May I?

http://www.mikecauser.com/images/cockpit.jpg


'b

[pigboat]

Consolidated NY-2?

[aerobelly]

Not a Consolidated, nor a compatriot.


'b

[Wanderin_dave]

Looks like the front cockpit of a good ol' Tiger Moth.

[HappyJack260]

De Haviland Moth - probably Gypsy Moth...

[aerobelly]

Not a Moth, but based on it.


'b

[HappyJack260]

Stampe, then?

[Speedbird48]

DH Queen Bee.

Radio controlled target version of the DH82A Tiger Moth.

[aerobelly]

Speedbird has it -- DH82B Queen Bee

To quote from the placard at Salisbury Hall:
"Based on the Tiger Moth biplane but with the wooden fuselage of the Moth Major it was a remote controlled target aircraft. After launch by a steam catapult, radio signals from a ground unit operated compressed air valves in the rear cockpit. These controlled ignition, throttle, elevator and rudder. The front cockpit has a full set of flying controls for ferry and test purposes. 412 were built between 1933 and 1943 -- 360 as float planes."

Over to you Speedbird.

[Speedbird48]

Not too bad for a visitor from the Western Colony at midnight!! I must admit that the Aeroplane magazine for November gave most of the answers with the fact that the controls were pneumatically controlled and the extra gauges in your pictures showed that.
It would take too long for me to dig up anything from my murky past although I have a Bristol Freighter one but you have already done that one!!
I will hand over control to one of you esteemed experts and lurk in wonder at the things I have, mainly thankfully, missed.
Thanks for allowing my brain to work??

[evansb]

Speedbird48 graciously gave us carte blanche to post a cockpit photo.
Anyone have a photo to share?:)

[MReyn24050]

It would seem that we have no takers at present so I will submit one to keep things going. Not that it will last for long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz219.jpg
Mel

[HappyJack260]

SE5a? Single machine gun port side of cockpit looks about right..

[MReyn24050]

HappyJack260

Sorry for the delay. However, it is not the cockpit of the SE5a.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

No challengers? Surely not that difficult,HappyJack260 was correct in one thing this aircraft did have a Vickers machine-gun on the port side of cockpit, however this was not the only armament. This "maid of all work" aircraft was about the same vintage as the SE5a.

[CoodaShooda]

Bristol F2B Fighter?

[MReyn24050]

CoodaShooda
Not the Bristol F2B Fighter but it's first flight was around the same time as the F2B.

[HappyJack260]

Parnall - Scout or Panther?

[MReyn24050]

HappyJack260
Sorry this one was not a Parnell aircraft.

[JDK]

I've been away, and you've all been having fun without me!

DH-4?

[MReyn24050]

JDK
Great to see you back. However, this one is not the DH-4
Mel

[jabberwok]

Add five. DH9?

[MReyn24050]

JDK
Sorry, should have said this one was not from the De Havilland stable.
Mel

[jabberwok]

In zat case vot about der AW FK8?

[MReyn24050]

Jabberwok.
Es ist die rechte Antwort.:ok: :D
Der Armstrong Whitworth F.K.8 otherwise known as the 'Big Ack'. The F.K.8 was produced in considerable numbers and played a significant,if unspectacular,part in WWI from the begining of 1917 until the Armistice, including actions which led to the award of two Victoria Crosses.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/bigack.jpg
You have control.
Mel

[jabberwok]

Oops. Apologies for the delay folks.

I used all my pictures up on the original thread so I declare it open house..

[aerobelly]

No-one ready? I don't remember this being done before, but can't find the full spreadsheet....


http://www.mikecauser.com/images/cockpit32.jpg

Should be very easy.

'b

[MReyn24050]

aerobelly.
Great to see your challenge. I think I know this but will give others a chance.
Mel

[Speedpig]

DH Dove perhaps?

[aerobelly]

Dove (DH104, Mk 8) it is.

(Note to self: must find harder challenges -- and try harder on other's pictures too.)

Speedpig has control.


'b

[Speedbird48]

It is a Dove by the other name of Devon.

[Speedpig]

Thanks.
This one will go even quicker. Hope it's not been done already.
http://www.speedpig001.com/cockpit.jpg

[Speedpig]

No guesses?

[MReyn24050]

It is a twin. 1960s?

[Wanderin_dave]

Lockheed SR-71 or YF-12?

[Speedpig]

It is a twin, it is 1960's








It is an SR71

Over to you Wanderin_dave

[Wanderin_dave]

Been waiting for an easier one to pounce on, thank god for the time difference!
I haven't checked the spreadsheet, but here's hoping this one hasn't been done.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k46/wanderin_dave/116-1682_IMG.jpg

[evansb]

Hi dave! I think this is the cockpit of a YAK-52. Am I right?

[MReyn24050]

evansb
I dont think there is much doubt in your conclusion.:)

[evansb]

Here it is:

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pPHu2K6HCG6p-sypiRiiuk84SWM9aHj5tye0qjMKER2EH5PBQZOYqjdVngNopBrAofHUJTmpU xscxMByxQWDR0DwgnUkDhG4_cCAgnKseCz1L2SwlHH9Zjg

[Wanderin_dave]

Apologies for the delay. Was kinda hoping it would last a bit longer than that, but yep evansb has it

[MReyn24050]

Evansb

Looks like a twin circa 1930s with some form of Autopilot?

[cringe]

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley

[evansb]

cringe is correct. It is a Whitley.:ok: You have control.

[cringe]

Thanks, evansb. That was some luck on my part. Here's my challenge - hope the pic isn't too big:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8560/unk63qs8.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Hi cringe
I guess that is the Beriev Be-6. Which would be one of these.
http://eu.airliners.net/photos/middle/0/5/4/0564450.jpg
Mel

[cringe]

Hi Mel,

Another hole-in-one for you. :) :D A Be-6 it was. Your turn.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks cringe I just happened to have that one on file. I am sure that this will not last long.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz220.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Did not think it would be that hard. Aircraft flew late 1930s.

[JDK]

American?

(Instruments are in English, gunsight, not a British type panel...)

[MReyn24050]

JDK
This one was not an American aircraft and as you say not British either.
Mel

[evansb]

Reggiane Re 2000 Falco I?

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Right part of the world but not the Reggiane Re 2000 Falco I.
Mel

[evansb]

Caproni-Vizzola F.5?

[MReyn24050]

evansb
:ok: It is the Caproni-Vizzola F.5.:D
You have control

[virgo]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/Virgo_photo/PB020020.jpg

I work for an aviation training school and wondered if this panel is genuine or a composite to illustrate instrument locations.
Obscured by the flash reflection are the double RPM indicator and Boost gauge.
The panel is either from, or representing, a British, twin-engined, air-cooled, supercharged, aircraft with retractable undercarriage, pneumatic brakes,flaps that go down a long way and a radio altimeter ??

any clues ????

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. ID?..

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pPHu2K6HCG6p-sypiRiiuk3gRWcINm_kphMuGbf3AQTUjWIrbz1IAIkA1UuRCSDyBXwXW81a5 9bPFea95Bv-T-4v9vvaS3tSFIA1lf9u8tdM

[MReyn24050]

virgo
I certainly think the panel is a composite to illustrate instrument locations. It looks far too simple. The panel below is from a Twin Pioneer which as you can see is a relatively simple panel but has far more than the panel you show.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/TwinPioneer.jpg
Mel

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Single engine, tri-cycle undercarriage?
Mel

[evansb]

Mel, yes, single-engine, tri-cycle gear.

[virgo]

Thanks MReyn. I thought it might be a Twinpin or maybe a Dove/Devon but I'm inclined to agree it's a composite. Rather oddly, alongside it is the major part of a Britannia flight-engineer's panel.

[JDK]

virgo
I certainly think the panel is a composite to illustrate instrument locations. It looks far too simple. The panel below is from a Twin Pioneer which as you can see is a relatively simple panel but has far more than the panel you show.
I'd agree with the rationale, but on the other hand, why is there so many redundant mounting holes and a couple of useless plates? Why not set up in a more diagramatic / annotated format as opposed to a very realistic looking semi-random layout?

I'd say it's a genuine board that may have been adapted. It if was made from scratch it wouldn't look so 'messy'.

The instruments may be a 'set' made up that have nothing to do with the original, less complex type the panel was from. Maybe?

[MReyn24050]

JDK

I do not disagree with what you say, it may well be "a genuine board that may have been adapted".

Mel

[MReyn24050]

Mel, yes, single-engine, tri-cycle gear.

Has similarities to a Cessna 150 but I dont think it is from the USA or the UK. One from France?

[yowie]

Looks Piper,PA32 maybe?

[evansb]

Not manufactured in USA, UK, nor France. Not a Piper PA32.

[jabberwok]

Italian? Maybe SIAI Marchetti?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Italian. The aircraft first flew in 1965.

[Speedpig]

Pure guess as I'm unable to find a cockpit shot...
UTVA-75?

[evansb]

Not a UTVA-75, similar configuration though. Approximately 300 examples of the mystery plane were built.

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Fuji FA-200-180 perhaps?
Mel

[evansb]

YES!:ok: Six stars for you! (insert Subaru's logo) :D :D It is indeed the Fuji 200 "Aero Subaru". One of the few Subarus without AWD. ;) You have control, sir.

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Many thanks. This one goes back a few years.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz221.jpg
Mel

[JDK]

Eeet iz zee SVA-5 I sink?




Apologies for a v. v. awful Italian accent, but I can't help it.

[MReyn24050]

JDK
Nessun problema. :ok: È la giusta risposta.:D Avete controllo.
Mel

[JDK]

Thanks Mel.
The type shouldn't be too hard, but anyone who identifies this famously laggardly machine which was used for an exceptional booze transportation gets extra points.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/MysteryNov06.jpg

Flown by a couple of heroes in anyone's book.

[MReyn24050]

JDK
I did think it was the New Standard D-25, NC150M, which was caught smuggling in booze from Canada during prohibition and was seized by the FBI. But the cockpit instrumentation is not correct.
Mel

[evansb]

A De Havilland/Airco D.H.9 perhaps?

[JDK]

The man from the Badlands Alberta has the type, sorry Mel, the booze transportation was a far greater distance than merely one continent - this was halfway around the world for a bottle of Peter Dawson whisky. Anyone care to share the story, while evansb takes control?

[evansb]

D.H.9s flew at least three long-distance flights of note. On Feb.4 1920,
Col. P. van Ryneveld and Capt. C. Quintin-Brand departed England for South Africa in a Vimy, but crashed twice. The replacement aircraft was a D.H.9 that completed the trip, arriving safely in Cape Town on March 20.

The England to Australia air-race began in December of 1919, the last entry being a D.H.9, G-EAQM. With the sponsors initials "P.D." written on the fuselage, they departed Hounslow on January 8, 1920. After an incredible 208 days, it was the last to arrive at Darwin on August 2nd. Pilots Lt. Ray Parer and Lt. John McIntosh were greeted as heroes. After enduring such an arduous voyage, I wonder if any of their sponsors spirits completed the trip..

The first trans-canada flight was completed by Capt. G.A. Thompson in a D.H.9A on Oct.17, 1920. The relay flight commenced in Halifax on Oct 7 using a Fairey seaplane and a Curtiss HS-2L flying boat. At Winnipeg, of three D.H.9As entered, only one, G-CYBF completed the remaining 1160 miles through the Rockies and onto Vancouver.

[JDK]

Thanks evansb,
And here's the restored, stored aircraft in the Australian War Memorial Annex.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/DH9a.jpg
The aircraft was significantly rebuilt / repaired en-route (including a doubled Overland car radiator pair) but the bottle of Peter Dawson's whisky was handed over, full original (my underline):
The fliers left Hounslow on 8 January 1920, and 208 days later arrived in Darwin on 2 August. They were officially welcomed at Flemington racecourse, Melbourne, on 31 August, but what happened during the preceding 237 days is all but incomprehensible. They had made the first of their innumerable forced landings soon after leaving England, and their last at Culcairn, New South Wales. As they struggled from one disaster to another they left a trail of broken propellers, smashed undercarriages, damaged tail-skids, ruined radiators, crumpled wings, and bent fuselages. Their engine had twice caught fire, a vicious down-draught had almost forced the aircraft into the smouldering crater of Mount Vesuvius in Italy, and they had had to fight off Arabs in the Syrian desert. Finance was such a problem that Parer and McIntosh undertook advertising flights in Calcutta, and embellished their aircraft with slogans ranging from tea to whisky.
In spite of their astounding vicissitudes, Parer and McIntosh completed the first single-engine aircraft flight from England to Australia—and the first symbolic freight flight in the form of a bottle of PD Whisky delivered to Prime Minister W. M. Hughes. The aviators were each presented with a £500 cheque and an Air Force Cross. Their D.H.9 aircraft was eventually presented by the government to the Australian War Memorial. C. Day Lewis commemorated their achievement in an epic poem, 'Flight to Australia', and Parer recorded their experiences in Flight and Adventures of Parer and McIntosh, by Air from England to Australia (Melbourne, 1921, 1986).
From: http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A110137b.htm

You have control!

[evansb]

Here is the next cockpit.


http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pPHu2K6HCG6p-sypiRiiuk2tlMaRCgmmFYTA7rIZtTBWPgM5QMssPA7cMF64avMy6_beKCdgL 1zM9oDifYVW-aXUrrtxiBujfMyQvsrSaBLXYqp4hXXPGMQ

[JDK]

Supermarine Walrus.

The Fleet Air Arm Museum's ex-Irish Air Corps example, L2301.

(As an author of a Walrus book I couldn't let it go by... ;) )

[evansb]

It is indeed a Walrus. :ok:

You have control.

[JDK]

Thanks.:ok:

It is that Walrus too, as there are three surviving Walruses, and one Seagull V, and it's a modern photo. Seagull V VH-ALB / A2-4 in the RAF Museum has a different panel, HD874 was recently restored and on display in the RAAF Museum, with a newer looking panel, and Solent Sky's W2718 / G-RNLI is not yet fitted with its panel.

I don't think we've had this one yet:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/MysterJDKNov03.jpg

[dakkg651]

Boomerang?

[JDK]

Boomerang is correct.

It is Matt Denning's airworthy CAC Boomerang now with the Temora Aviation Museum.

Yours dakkg651. :D

[dakkg651]

Gosh I actually got one right.

JDK can I hand it back to you until I work out how to put a picture in here?

[JDK]

Well, I just happen to have another to hand:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/JDK_MysteryNov02.jpg

We may have had this type before, but I don't think we've had this particular example. It is a very historic aircraft, particularly due to recent work - extra points for which actual aircraft and why it's now even more of a historic artefact.

[dakkg651]

Is that the FAA Museum's newly 'restored' Corsair?

[MReyn24050]

dakkg651 is correct it is a Corsair, I would say a F4U-1D Corsair or perhaps the Goodyear FG-1D Corsair Serial No. 88382 Location: Museum of Flight,

[JDK]

dakkg651 is correct, with the FAAM Goodyear built Corsair FG1-A KD431 - however the word isn't 'restored' but 'conserved'. A fascinating story, with some details here: http://www.fleetairarm.com/exhibits/planes.asp?plane=153
In 2000 it was decided to use the Museum’s Corsair FG-1to pioneer this “whole aircraft” method of paintwork conservation. We believe this ground breaking project to be the first of its kind in the aviation Museum world.
Using techniques familiar to archaeologists and forensic scientists this project has revealed, after three years of painstaking work, a unique, time capsule aircraft. Inch by inch, layer by layer, the entire aircraft has been scrutinised, researched and carefully stripped of the paint finish applied in 1963, when the aircraft was first presented to the Fleet air Arm Museum.
THE RESULT- A Corsair in as near to totally authentic and original condition from 1944 as it is possible to achieve. Paintwork, markings, stencilling, even the scratches and wear marks from the period are all original. Of the forty of so remaining Corsairs around the world (some in flying condition, some on display in Museums) there are no known examples in their truly original condition other than the FAAM’s Corsair KD 431.

dakkg651 has control!

[Mike51]

....the FAAM Goodyear built Corsair FG1-A KD431 - however the word isn't 'restored' but 'conserved'.
Tatty looking thing, isn't it. A spruce up and a nice shiny new coat of paint is called for, methinks!

[airspeedsalive]

Tatty looking thing, isn't it. A spruce up and a nice shiny new coat of paint is called for, methinks!


Ah....the more original the better. Museum pieces are to sterile.

[evansb]

"dakkg651" appears unable to post. I suggest to anyone who hasn't posted in a while, please do so.

[Mike51]

Can I play?

JDK's excluded from this one, because.......

1) He's already seen this photo, and

2) Sweet revenge for being 'banned' from some of his quizes elsewhere in the past! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/Mike_Shreeve/Picture-101.jpg

[JDK]

Hey, Mike, took your time.:ok:

Fair dos. :}

I know wot it is...

[MReyn24050]

Curtiss JN4 "Jenny" perhaps?

[Mike51]

Curtiss JN4 "Jenny" perhaps?
Well done, it is indeed. This is Frank Schelling's lovely Hispano-Suiza engined JN-4H, based in the Sonoma Valley. Frank's taken it to 4 airshows (including Oshkosh and, just recently, Reno) since restoration was completed in 2003, and taken the top prize each time.

Next........

[MReyn24050]

Mike51
Many thanks, it certainly looks like a fantastic restoration, I can well see why it has won so many top prizes.
This one is not so old and I am sure will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz214.jpg
Mel

[evansb]

Ilyushin IL-4 (DB-3F)?

[MReyn24050]

It is indeed the Ilyushin IL-4
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/20.jpg
You have control.
Mel

[evansb]

Another one to research.


http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pPHu2K6HCG6p-sypiRiiuk3bKCxbv4GBuedaKyn20kdOCqQdGS9tUvWN94TdAXjoecj_5de5N 6hZPsC-S4wqjLwmgiFNEpFKNaP9Un202duTC8lnNsZE2AQ

[evansb]

Okay, first clue. Over 5,000 examples were produced.

[MReyn24050]

Eastern Block or Japanese?

[evansb]

Japanese design.

[cringe]

Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa

[evansb]

Yes it is the elegant Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa, (Peregrine Falcon), Allied code-name "Oscar".

over to you..

[cringe]

Thanks, evansb. This one won't last as long:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7760/unkcz4.jpg

[evansb]

British Aircraft BA IV Double Eagle?

[cringe]

Sorry, this one wasn't British. Right era.

[cringe]

Clues: European. Civilian twin, although a military variant was planned.

[evansb]

Is it the lovely RWD-11?

[cringe]

It surely is. :ok: I knew we could count on you, evansb. Your turn.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7546/rwd11ga1.jpg

[evansb]

Thanks cringe, great challenge! Here is one newer ppruners might want to take on.

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pPHu2K6HCG6p-sypiRiiukwdtlIhKboGkUTbG-DGGSEm1mlrc4Qt6MMm-YLPJtcQjzPYWz1s1bLCOt6_lYLGgo8hgOlA1L8z4IIhvOQpPSzUcoYliczqO mw

[oncemorealoft]

It's a C-160 Transall.

Sorry, nothing to post as a follow on.

[evansb]

You are correct!:ok: Anyone who hasn't posted in a while is surely welcome to do so!:)

[Mr_Grubby]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit-20.jpg
Not sure if we have had this or not !!
Clint.

[BSD]

Mr Grubby,

How about a P-40?

BSD.