What Cockpit? MK V

[682al]

I'm not 100% certain about this, but I think it may be the Miles M20, "emergency" fighter, with a Merlin engine, eight guns and a fixed undercarriage?

[MReyn24050]

:ok: Great to see you back on form. It is indeed the miles M.20 :D
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/m20.jpg
You have control
Mel

[682al]

Thanks Mel.
I have to say a port view of the panel would have helped me make up my mind a bit quicker - i.e. absence of undercarriage indicator!
Here's mine. I really am running short of candidates.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Cockpitquiz.jpg

[windriver]

Pacific Aerospace CT4B Airtrainer?.... (just checked, not a jet)

Try HAL HJT-16 Kiran

[Tiger_mate]

Saab 105 jet trainer

[682al]

Well that didn't last long, I hardly had time to make a brew.

Tiger_Mate has it! :)

[Tiger_mate]

Sorry folks... I am just back from time away at sunny locations and have not even unpacked yet, can somebody step in to keep the thread going?

[Akubra]

Heres and interesting one to keep the ball rolling.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/acubra/wcpi.jpg
If someone can find an "in cockpit" photo, I would like to see it.

[windriver]

Berlin B9?

[Akubra]

Not the B9 windriver.

[Kitbag]

I've seen this one before somewhere:)




Just can't remember where:(

[Kitbag]

Ah hah, yes I can :)

Heinkel 119?

[Akubra]

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/he119-2.jpg

The thread is yours Kitbag! :ok:

[Kitbag]

OK, wrong place wrong time. If I haven't put anything on by 9pm tonight its first come first served.

[Kitbag]

In Mels words: 'Here is an easy one'

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Pic3.jpg

[evansb]

Brewster Buccaneer, (Bermuda)?

[Kitbag]

Sorry, not from the Brewster stable evansb

[Tiger_mate]

Too ugly to be British :E

Front seat or Rear seat?

[Kitbag]

TM
Its the only seat

[MReyn24050]

Good challenge Kitbag. It is I am sure a US Naval Aircraft possibly the Martin Mauler or Boeing XF8B-1 which was built to the same spec.
Mel

[larssnowpharter]

Have to go along with Mel here except that I would plump for the XF8 becuase of the similarity of this panel with that of the XF6. Cannot confirm tho.

[Kitbag]

USN and it achieved series production (approx 150 of this particular variant out of a total in excess of 12000 of all marks), so not really an X??

[evansb]

Is it some variant of a Grumman Hellcat. F6F-3N? With RADAR? (The rounded fascia with sculpted dials, also the lower right-hand instruments lead me to examine Grumman).
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/f6fradar.jpg

[Kitbag]

evansb is there :D. F6F-3N Hellcat BuAer 41302 according to the r/h placard in the original photo. The other placard carries a warning that the wing mounted radar nacelle will cause airspeed to indicate 15-20 knots high in a left sideslip. If you look closely at the pic evansb has posted you can see the proximity of the nacelle to the pitot tube. Note the very small size of the radar display bolted into the centre of the instrument panel which I thought might throw some of you :hmm:. The Hellcat became the most widely used carrier night fighter in the Pacific.

[evansb]

This one may prove difficult for some.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/audrey-1.jpg

[Kitbag]

I agree:confused:

[larssnowpharter]

I am thinking along the lines of something like an older Falke or am I totally off base?

[MReyn24050]

High wing with cockpit doors that open upwards.
I think it is Italian,possibly the Prototype PM.1 which led to the Macchi 308?
Mel

[evansb]

Mel, you are correct.:ok: Well done.:D The CNA (Compagnia Nazionale Aeronautica) PM-1 prototype. One of the few companies that produced both airframes and aero-engines. World War II and the bombing of their factory curtailed development. It did indeed lead to the Macchi 308.
Over to you.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/CNA-P.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri, that was a good challenge.The upward opening doors was the real clue. This next easy one is for kitbag :) I am certain we havent had it before, if we have I must have missed it.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz62.jpg

[Tiger_mate]

Handley Page Hampden? ....based upon gut feeling alone.

[jabberwok]

Funny thing but my gut feeling was for the Bolingbroke.

Please say it was an HP design.. :uhoh:

[MReyn24050]

Neither the Handley Page Hampden nor the Bolingbroke.However Tigermate's gut feeling is on course.
Mel

[Kitbag]

I was leaning towards the Douglas Boston/Havoc series or maybe a French twin like the LeO 451 but definitely not sure. What is puzzling me is the fabric? material at the top right of the pic, it seems to give an assymetric effect to the cockpit. Await the solution with baited breath.

[MReyn24050]

Not the Douglas Boston/Havoc series or a French Twin.
Mel

[seacue]

Single-pilot British WW2 bomber? No idea which.

[MReyn24050]

She was British and a bomber a few did fly in WWII but in different roles.
Mel

[Tiger_mate]

She was British and a bomber a few did fly in WWII but in different roles.


HP54 Harrow, designed as a bomber but used as a transport & in turn, in-flight refueller?

[Kitbag]

Fishing. Blackburn Botha?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Botha and this one came from the same stable as the HP54 Harrow. She was also designed as a bomber but used in WWII as a trainer and for other duties.

[windriver]

HP38 Heyford?

[MReyn24050]

It is indeed the Handley Page Heyford:ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/handleypageheyford.jpg
HANDLEY PAGE HEYFORD - The HANDLEY PAGE HP.50 HEYFORD heavy bomber biplane was designed by G R Volkert to meet Specification B.I9/27
and the prototype (HP.38) first flew on June 12, 1930. The RAF acquired 15 Handley Page Heyford Is, 23 Handley Page Heyford lAs, 16 Handley Page Heyford IIs and 70 Handley Page Heyford Ills. About 30 remained in 1939, all Mk Ills with 695 hp Kestrel VI engines. They were used for a year or so at Nos 3 and 4 Air Observer Schools and No 4 Bombing and Gunnery School.
You have control

[Kitbag]

OK, I give up, my Boys Book of Handley Page aircraft doesn't come up with a suitable monoplane contender unless you mean the HP51, but I don't think that went into production. How about a Heyford?

[Kitbag]

Rissoles :\, spent too long writing!

Well done Windriver :D

[windriver]

Rissoles :\, spent too long writing!

If it's any consolation kitbag you were unlucky... I got as far as entering HP Hinadi... then changed my mind for some reason at the preview stage.

Nice easy one as a consolation....

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/6428.jpg

[Kitbag]

At the risk of seeming a complete doo dah-

Avro Shackleton?

[windriver]

Sorry Kitbag.. not a Shackleton.

The best I can offer you is similar vintage....

[ZeBedie]

Neptune?
............................................................ ..........

[windriver]

Nope... sorry

[Kitbag]

Vickers Varsity?

[windriver]

Not a Varsity... sorry

[RETDPI]

Mon Dieu!,
I go to the North and look at my book of maps.

[windriver]

Vous êtes monsieur correct. C'est le Nord Nordatlas. Vous avez la commande :ok:

[evansb]

New day, new cockpit.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/8375309.jpg

[Kitbag]

Late series Boeing 737?

[MReyn24050]

I think this aircraft is from the Beech Stable as the cental throttle console is similar to that of the Beech Super King Air, however the warning panel along the top of the instrument panel is similar to the Beech 400 Beechjet. Control yokes are also Beech type. I have not yet identified the exact type but I am sure it is a Beech derivative.
Mel

[windriver]

Beech Starship....

[MReyn24050]

windriver.:ok: You are correct it is the Beechcraft Starship 2000 or 2000A.

[windriver]

Recognised it immediately...but only after Mel mentioned Beechcraft....

Something a bit different that I have to hand... This challenge is to identify the function or purpose of this SAAB built device.

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/390.jpg

[Kitbag]

Lars felt that SAABs new safety bicycle was a little cumbersome for the daily commute :)

[windriver]

Not a bicycle prototype or simulation sorry... :cool:

[evansb]

VTOL simulation which led to the J37 Viggen?

[windriver]

Not quite , but you're on the right track citing the development of the Viggen. (1965 Photo)

[evansb]

how about a simulator for Viggen`s no-flare, steep (5m per sec) approaches..

[windriver]

Much more mundane than that ... Consider why the "pilot" might consider it wise to wear a bone dome.

[evansb]

Ejector seat simulator?

[windriver]

More mundane....

[MReyn24050]

Just a thought. SAAB 37 Viggen computerized 'avenger' test rig perhaps.
The aircraft was designed to have a powerful all purpose computer to assist in all missions phases take off,target approach,attack,return and landing. The computer projected head up display on a reflector screen in the pilot's line of sight.

[windriver]

Er... sort of, but think on a more fundamental level. This rig was used to investigate one particular flight condition.

Ask yourself again why he's wearing a bone dome....

[evansb]

low altitude terrain following/contour flying?

[MReyn24050]

Problems were experienced with the first aircraft due to using reverse thrust to slow the aircraft on landing which coupled with nosewheel steering problems. No 4 Aircraft skidded off the runway and turned over. Was this rig connected with the work carried out to overcome this problem? Possibly checking landing 'g' loading acceptable for aircrew etc?

[windriver]

Low level .... Sooooo close .... Why might he need a (low tech) hard hat for this simulation....

Just looking for one word to unlock this challenge.

Edited due simulatenous postings... No Mel. Low level is the clue. Think basics.

[evansb]

Low altitude bail-out/ejection?:confused:

[windriver]

Nope... What often fatigues both crew and craft particularly at low level...

[MReyn24050]

'g' forces introduced by terrain following simulator throwing the "pilot's" head sidewards,reawards etc and his head hitting the shroud. The helmet provides protection.

[windriver]

Aaaagh....

The effect in question is usually more pronounced (though not exclusive) at low level, indeed I`ve experienced in clear air.

[innuendo]

Turbulence at high speed and low level, (thermal causes etc). The vertical posts at each side of the contraption look as if they allow the whole thing to go go up and down, not sure how violently. If your harness does not hold you down do you crack your noggin on the canopy???

[windriver]

Correct innuendo - Turbulence was the key word to this challenge.

Unfortunately the article on the development of the SAAB 37 Viggen from which this image was derived doesn`t elaborate on the caption which simply reads...

"Test rig used by SAAB to simulate flying in turbulent weather."

You have control.

[evansb]

Here is the next What cockpit?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/2992740.jpg

[windriver]

Is it a Maule M4?

[MReyn24050]

Aeronca 65-CA Super Chief?

[evansb]

Sorry gents, not a Maule, nor an Aeronca Super Chief.

[windriver]

Is it a Stinson L-5 Sentinel ?

[evansb]

Windriver, sorry, it is not a Stinson Sentinel.

[windriver]

OK... How about a Cessna Bird Dog ?

[MReyn24050]

Intriguing. Would appear to be a single engine high wing aircraft possibly designed as an AOP aircraft. Starboard side, forward of door, is that an aperture or just a panel missing? Windscreen is similar to that on the Interstate Cadet, yet that aircraft had tandem seats. The follow on aircraft from Interstate was the Artic Tern also two seats in tandem. Can we take it this aircraft was designed and built in the USA?
Mel

[Woods]

Piper L-4X which was to be the L-14, but only a few got built, two existing today.

If correct, I have to pass. I hope I'm ready to submit a challenge before they are all used. Interesting, though, in all these cockpits I have only recorded two Pipers.:O

[evansb]

Woods is correct:ok: Well done:D The Piper L-14, originally designated the YL-14, was the first Piper to employ flaps. It also featured leading-edge slots, and a pivoting third seat with a map desk for the observer aft of the two pilots.
It could be configured to carry two stretchers (litters) with the observer seat removed. Hundreds were ordered, fewer than ten were built, and one remains airworthy.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/piperLiaison.jpg

[evansb]

Would someone like to post a cockpit photo?:)

[windriver]

Hat's off to Woods... I looked at a few Cessnas but couldn`t find a match. Must try harder. ... I`ll step in with this.


http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/271.jpg

[MReyn24050]

4 Engined experimental aircraft. Wild guess, Curtiss-Wright X-19 VTOL Experimental Aircraft perhaps

[windriver]

Not the Curtiss-Wright but very warm....

[MReyn24050]

LTV-Hiller-Ryan XC-142 perhaps

[windriver]

Ouch.. that was hot... but no.

[MReyn24050]

Bell X-22A perhaps?

[windriver]

Yes it's the Bell X-22A ..it was only a matter of time... :ok:



http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/679.jpg

You have control..

[MReyn24050]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz269.jpg

[Kitbag]

Windscreen is reminding me of a Storch but the instruments seem a little too sophisticated, could it be the later licence built French MS Criquet?

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft is not a Storch or the the Morane Saulnier MS 505 "Criquet.

[evansb]

The rarely seen Nord 3400 Norbarbe.

[MReyn24050]

evansb has it. :ok::D. It is the Nord 3400 Norbarbe.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Nord3400F-AZFM.jpg
you have control

[evansb]

Thanks mel, I enjoyed the research. Here is the next What Cockpit?

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3006965.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I know this one but will let it run to give others a chance. Please check your PMs Bri.
Mel

[Speedpig]

F105 Thunderchief?

[evansb]

Speedpig, sorry, not a Republic F-105 Thunderchief.

[innuendo]

Looks to be a twin engine going by the dual row of instruments on the right side of the panel.

[Kitbag]

with reheat as well. How about the Rumanian Soko Orao?

[Kitbag]

Nix the europeans. McDonnell F101 Voodoo?

[Cpt_Pugwash]

Very reminiscent of an early Harrier with that display between the pedals, but the HUD seems wrong. AV-8A?

[27mm]

Fiat G-91Y?

[evansb]

Sorry for the delay gentlemen. It is indeed a twin-engine, so it is not an AV-8A, nor the Fiat G.91. It is much newer than the F-101 Voodoo. It is comparable to a Soko J-22 Orao.

[Speedpig]

Aha, then it must be an IAR-93 "Vultur"

[Speedpig]

Rapidly losing faith in that guess though...

[Kitbag]

I was leaning towards the Shenyang Q5M with radar and western avionics installed

[evansb]

Sorry, not the IAR-93, nor the Shenyang Q5M. The mystery aircraft was jointly developed by two large corporations. It evolved from an earlier two-seater design.

[ICT_SLB]

Northrop F-20 Tigershark? Derived from the T-38 and the precursor to the YF-17 & F-18.

[evansb]

ICT_SLB Sorry, not the F-20 Tigershark. The mystery aircraft was not built in the United States. Only 77 were produced, and the type was withdrawn from active service in 2005. Here is a look at its cannon:


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/20mmCannon.jpg

[innuendo]

Made in Israel???

[evansb]

innuendo Sorry, not made in Israel.

[Akubra]

Mitsubishi F1 Maybe?
Is that a M61 20mm?

[MReyn24050]

Akubra Hope you have one ready :)
Mel

[evansb]

Akubra has it:ok: Well done:D The Mitsubishi F-1 was jointly developed with Fuji Heavy Industries to design Japan's first domestically produced fighter aircraft since World War II. Based on the Mitsubishi T-2 supersonic trainer, it was a totally Japanese effort, although it bears a superficial resemblance to the SEPECAT Jaguar.

Rare F-1 video with Led Zeppelin sound track:

www.patricksaviation.com/videos/malakas/1856/ (http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/malakas/1856/)

As noted by a keen-eyed ppruner, the F-1 in the video has a one-piece windscreen. The photo posted has a braced screen like a T-2 trainer. I've researched the photo from two Japanese sources and it confirms the original photo posted is a F-1, not a T-2. I was able to source a photo of a T-2 with a single-piece windscreen as well. The line drawing was sourced from Jane's Aircraft Recognition Guide, 1999. The photo below also shows a braced windscreen.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/f-1.jpghttp://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/f1_d1.gif

[Akubra]

Heres the next one. Good luck all!
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/acubra/wcp1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Four engines, mid to end 1930s. Wild guess, Blohm & Voss Ha139 perhaps?

[Akubra]

MReyn24050.
Yes on the four engines but sorry, this craft was flying in a different decade.

[Kitbag]

Lot of glass up there, Boeing Stratocruiser?

[MReyn24050]

Looks as though it has a tricycle U/C. Era 1940-50s. Perhaps the Consolidated B-32?

[pigboat]

Lockheed Constitution?

[evansb]

pigboat, as I know this one, and as Akubra may be off-line, I can tell you it is not the Lockheed Constitution.

[Akubra]

Clue:
It was a record holder for a number of years.

evansb, Please feel free to confirm a correct guess.
I will try to pop in and check when I can.

[Tiger_mate]

Is it a flying boat?

[Akubra]

It wasn't a flying boat, but Mel was correct in assuming it had tricycle gear.

[Kitbag]

Going East, how about the Tu95?

[MReyn24050]

Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express. Record? C-87A 41-24159 later became the first "Air Force One" for President Franklin Roosevelt, and was renamed *Guess Where II* perhaps?

[Akubra]

Nope, but I sure would like to see it anyway. :)

[Akubra]

Kitbag, "Head West"

[MReyn24050]

Convair (Consolidated Vultee) 104 Liberator-Liner perhaps? Or is the USA too far west?

[evansb]

Sorry, Mel, it is not a Consolidated (Convair) 104 Liberator-Liner.

[MReyn24050]

Next try the Douglas XB-19. I think I have got there in the end.:)

[evansb]

Mel is correct.:ok: The gigantic Douglas XB-19 heavy bomber.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/b-19upper.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thank you Bri and thank you Akubra that was a great challenge. This one is I am sure very much easier.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz70a.jpg
Mel

[Akubra]

Well done Mel!:ok:

[Kitbag]

It has the look of a prewar airliner, so Handley Page HP 42?

[MReyn24050]

kitbag you have it.Well Done :D:ok:It is the Handley Page H.P.42
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/HandleyPageHP42.jpg
You have control.

[Kitbag]

Oops, that was a bit unexpected, I thought we would be off for one of your world tours as usual:} TVM Mel

I have nothing prepared, so its first come first served

[MReyn24050]

:)Well I did say it would be easy :):)

[MReyn24050]

This one perhaps is not so easy, I am sorry that there are no instruments in this photograph but there are some clues there.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz270.jpg

[asw28-866]

bf 108 taufin or the garlic odoured nord equivilent?

[Kitbag]

Percival Provost- the one with a fan on the front?

[Tiger_mate]

Blackburn Skua

[MReyn24050]

Gentlemen.
This one is not the bf 108 taufin neither is it a piston or turbine powered Percival Provost. It is also not a Blackburn Skua.
asw28-866 was correct when he said it had a whiff of garlic odoured nord equivalent about it.

[Kitbag]

Socata Rallye?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Socata Rallye, sorry.
Mel

[On-MarkBob]

interesting layout, the big hole in the middle would suggest a big gyro blind fling panel similar to the DC3 and the primer knobs also look american. I looks as if it could be a twin even despite the funny throttle controls. So:-
Is it American? is it a twin? is it DC3 age? is it a Martin of some sort?

[MReyn24050]

Is it American? is it a twin? is it DC3 age? is it a Martin of some sort?
It is not American and therefore not a Martin.

It is not a twin.

It is after the DC3 age.
Mel

[asw28-866]

Nord 1201 Norecrin? Was baffled in my first guess by the apparant nose wheel bay in lower firewall.

[MReyn24050]

asw28-866 has it. Well done :D:ok:. It is the Nord 1201 Norecrin.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Nord1201Norecrin.jpg
You have control
Mel

[Tiger_mate]

It never ceases to amaze me how many aeroplanes appear here that I have never heard of, and I would consider myself a middle aged aeroplane anorak!

It looks like a pregnant Chipmunk!

[windriver]

With apologies to tigermate....

It never ceases to amaze me how many aeroplanes appear here that I have never heard of, and I would consider myself a middle aged aeroplane anorak!

It looks like a pregnant Chipmunk!

[evansb]

Are Tiger_mate and windriver one and the same?

[MReyn24050]

Another "Pregnant Chipmunk"
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/N1201.jpg

[asw28-866]

Phew,not often I score amongst the august company here. I had no idea what a Nord 1201 was either, but was fairly convinced there was a lot of Me108 in the picture! The next challenge is taken from the Flight Manual of an aircraft I am currently working on to get airworthy this year!

Regards '866'

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/panelpicture.jpg

[rodthesod]

With all due respect it looks nothing like a Chipmunk - DHC built a beautiful tailwheel aeroplane that was well harmonised and a delight to fly. This is ugly with a shape that seems to have evolved correctively, has a strange protruberance just below the engine, and probably didn't fly very well either.
rant over, rts

[windriver]

Are Tiger_mate and windriver one and the same? No ....


But Tiger_mate's comment

"It never ceases to amaze me how many aeroplanes appear here that I have never heard of, and I would consider myself a middle aged aeroplane anorak!"

Took the words right out of my keyboard. :D

[MReyn24050]

The Douglas T4-4B Sky Hawk perhaps?

[windriver]

Wild wild guess.... Russian.... MiG 21?

[asw28-866]

MReyn24050, no not the Skyhawk but it is single engined.

Windriver, not the Mig21 but this a/c is Eastern in origin.

More recent than both the A4 and Mig21 this a/c first flew in 1968.

[windriver]

Aero L-39 Albatros ?

[asw28-866]

Windriver has it. The aircraft in question is the Aero Vodochody L39C two seat jet trainer and light attack aircraft:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/l39.jpg

Windriver, you have control

[windriver]

It was the RSBN reference that gave me the clue...

asw28-866 You said - "I am currently working on to get airworthy this year!" - Looks like an interesting project.. all the best with the engineering.

Here's the next challenge...

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/89t2.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I will start the ball rolling. Could it be a Bristol-Prier Monoplane circa 1911?

[windriver]

No sorry... Not the Bristol-Prier

[MReyn24050]

I am certain it is a monoplane so my next try is it is perhaps a Blackburn Single seat Monoplane.

[seacue]

My guess is Antoinette monoplane.

[windriver]

Sorry seacue... I can see the resemblance, but

MReyn24050's Blackburn Monoplane gets it...:ok:

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/bb.gif

You have control MReyn24050.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks windriver. Here is the next one, a nice easy one for a Sunday afternoon.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz262.jpg
Mel

[pigboat]

Time for a WAG. Armstrong-Whitworth Apollo.

Captain to co-pilot: These are my throttles, get your own throttles. :p

[MReyn24050]

Not the Armstrong-Whitworth Apollo I am afraid.

[asw28-866]

I want to say Avro Ashton, but we've already had that!

[Tiger_mate]

Mel did say at the time that he had the 'inside' of an Ashton, and looking at the framework, you could be right.

[windriver]

HPR3 Herald - 4 x Leonides

[asw28-866]

Tiger mate, yes it's the framing that got me and not enough levers for a piston a/c. Is your nom de plume DH82a related or some other tiger?

'866'

[MReyn24050]

asw28-866 has it:ok:. It is the Avro Ashton Mk1 and the instrument panel of WB490. Tiger_mate published the outside of the cockpit a few weeks ago.

You have control asw28-866.

[asw28-866]

Another of my offices! Shouldn't last long:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/panel.jpg

'866'

[jabberwok]

Looks Piperish but not an Aztec or Navajo.. Aerostar?

[asw28-866]

Sorry Jabberwok, not 'piperish' of any description.

[Tiger_mate]

Is your nom de plume DH82a related or some other tiger?


The sort that has rather large teeth and meets up at a NATO base once or twice a year.

T_M

Jets are for kids

[windriver]

Ted Smith Aerostar -

No I`ve changed my mind.. BN Islander

[asw28-866]

Not Ted Smith's Aerostar, Windriver

[windriver]

Just edited to BN Islander?

[asw28-866]

Windriver has is, the BN2 'Bongo' it is:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/bongo.jpg

Windriver, you have control

[windriver]

I don`t have the list to hand so it's possible the challenge type may have already featured in What Cockpit...

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/89h7.jpg

[Kitbag]

At a guess- a ground rig meant to simulate some aspects of the HP Victor cockpit or systems.

[windriver]

Not the Victor Kitbag ... but your reasoning is sound.

[Kitbag]

Well its not a Vulcan, so...Vickers Valiant? Looking at the shoulder patches of some of the observers I don't think they are regulars, anyone else thoughts on that?

[MReyn24050]

Control yoke looks similar to the Scottish Twin Pioneer so perhaps a Ground Rig for the Twin Pin

[windriver]

Not the Twin Pin... or the Valiant. - The personnel are RCAF.

[MReyn24050]

DHC-4 Caribou Ground Rig perhaps?

[windriver]

Not the DHC4 - The personnel are RCAF, bu the aircraft is British

[Kitbag]

DH 106 Comet

[windriver]

Yes it's the Comet :ok:

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/wc-comet.jpg

From an Air Clues Article January 1953 - The What Cockpit challenge image showed the mockup at the DH Technical School.

You have control Kitbag.

[Kitbag]

Thanks windriver.

To keep things moving, if I haven't put something on by 19:00, you know what to do :cool:

[evansb]

As Mel would say, here is a nice easy one.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3047213125.jpg

[Kitbag]

A W Armadillo?

[evansb]

Ah, no. Never heard of a W Armadillo.

[Kitbag]

Not a W Armadillo, an Armstrong Whitworth Armadillo!
Anyway, just noticed, it looks like someone has been at the label at the top centre of the instrument panel. The shape is reminiscent of the Fairey company logo but I don't think it is one of their products. Anyone else prepared to have a go?

[VitaminGee]

Whilst I find this thread hugely entertaining, I don't normally have a clue. However, there seems to be another wing above - i.e a triplane - the Sopwith perhaps?

[evansb]

Sorry, VitaminGee, not a Sopwith. The aircraft in question was produced more than 10 years after the Triplane.

[MReyn24050]

Breguet 19 perhaps?

[evansb]

Sorry, Mel, not a Breguet 19. Not French.

[Kitbag]

Is this a racing seaplane?

[evansb]

It is not a seaplane, but it is a racer type, with cross-country capabilities.

[MReyn24050]

I will go for the Curtiss R2C-1

[evansb]

Not a Curtiss R2C-1, but similar configuration.

[MReyn24050]

I must be getting old, I thought I had seen this cockpit layout before. It is a Laird LC-DW-500.

[evansb]

Mel is correct.:ok: Well done.:D It is the Thompson and Bendix Trophy award winning Laird Super Solution LC DW-500. Flown by Jimmy Doolittle in 1931.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/LAIRDlogo.gifhttp://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Laird20Super20Solution20Replica-4.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri. Here is the next one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz271.jpg

[evansb]

Eastern European, early post-World War II?

[MReyn24050]

Eastern European, early post-World War II? Yes to both questions.

[evansb]

Is it a LWD Junak2 or Zuch2?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/LWDaerobatic.jpg

[asw28-866]

Is it the Ikarus Aero-2?

[MReyn24050]

Bri has it it is a LWD Zuch 2:D:ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Zuch-2.jpg
You have control.

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. I was uncertain as to the model as the canopy fenestrations appear identical. A source also indicated some Junak2s as having tricycle gear and some having tail-dragger gear.


Here is the next What Cockpit?

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3059450.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Bri. I won't jump in on this one yet. Please check PMs
Mel

[windriver]

It has the look of a de Havilland... Leopard Moth?

[MReyn24050]

Windriver, she is not a De Havilland Aircraft, you can just see at the top right hand corner the Townend ring of a radial engine.
Mel

[asw28-866]

wild stab in the dark, Klemm Eagle?

[evansb]

Sorry asw28-866, not a Klemm. Try farther west.

Here is another view of the same aircraft type. The instrument panel is not as original, however.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/yellowBird.jpg

[jabberwok]

Airspeed Courier?

Or are we crossing the pond?

[MReyn24050]

It does come from across the pond.

[windriver]

Cessna AW?

[evansb]

Sorry, not a Cessna. The manufacturer was certainly a rival of Cessna. The design was a departure from what the company usually produced.

[windriver]

Bellanca J-300 ?

[evansb]

Sorry, not a Bellanca.

[pigboat]

Aeronca L ?

[windriver]

Travel Air A-6000 ?

[evansb]

pigboat is spot on.:ok: Well done.:D It is an Aeronca LC, of 66 built, only 3 are believed airworthy.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/AeroncaLCyellow.jpg

[evansb]

Does anyone have a cockpit photo to post?

[windriver]

In the immortal words of Mel... Here's an easy one.

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/a7.jpg

[evansb]

How many were built?

[windriver]

The only figure I have for the number built is 40. (Not including any military variants)

[evansb]

Twin engined, retracting undercarriage, basic IFR panel, English labels.
The magnetic compass looks to be of European origin.

[windriver]

Not European.. It's from across the pond.

The article from which the challenge picture was taken is concerned with the comparison between the challenge aircraft and a rival machine, namely the Boeing 247.

[evansb]

Curtiss Condor.

[windriver]

Correct evansb - The Curtiss-Wright Condor 1933 :ok:

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/cwc.jpg

You have control..

[evansb]

Thanks windriver. I enjoyed the research. I've been looking for a photo of the Condor's cockpit for quite some time. Here is the next cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3082970556.jpg

[pigboat]

Gulfstream cockpit, the G2 Space Shuttle simulator?

[evansb]

pigboat is correct.:ok: It is NASA's Grumman Gulfstream III modified left-seat space shuttle active simulator.
Will you post the next cockpit photo? If not, please advise. :)

[pigboat]

Go ahead and post another, please, evansb. All the cockpit photos I had have already been posted.

The parking brake, panic panel and control lock lever are dead give-aways for Gulfstream drivers. ;)

[windriver]

The parking brake, panic panel and control lock lever are dead give-aways for Gulfstream drivers.... I thought it looked familiar...

Here's one to be going on with... According the list it hasn`t been featured, but as the caption information available to me is limited to its popular name and operator it's just possible it has.

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/b78d.jpg