What Cockpit? MK V

[MReyn24050]

This one I do know but will let it run. Please check your PMs.
Mel

[windriver]

Last time I saw an image like this it was during an Ishihara test... :O

Can`t even decide if it's a piston or a jet... so here goes with the elimination process....

Early jet two engines, not British?

[evansb]

windriver, not a twin jet, not British. It is a single engine piston type.

[windriver]

Couldn`t make out the object in the Isihara either.. back to the drawing board...

[the incivil beast]

The corrugated metal orients me towards Junkers, but that doesn't help much
:confused:

some clues would be appreciated, I guess :ok:

[windriver]

P40 Kittyhawk?

[evansb]

Not American, so it is not a Curtiss P-40. Not German. The aircraft saw brief action in World War II, where it proved to be a good performer. Only 12 were built as the war interrupted production.

[the incivil beast]

Only 12 were built as the war interrupted productionThat rings a bell ! (see here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1311293&postcount=774))
Wouldn't it be the Czech Avia B135, per chance ?

[evansb]

the incivil beast, sorry, not Czech, but the aircraft is quite similar to the Avia B135, as are the circumstances regarding interrupted production.

[windriver]

Nakajima Ki-116 perhaps?

[the incivil beast]

It has to be the Yugoslav Rogožarski IK-3 then
http://www.yumodel.co.yu/history_of_yugoslav_aviation/ik-3.htm
(it had a czech built HS engine BTW)

[evansb]

the incivil beast is correct!:ok: Well done.:D The Rogozarski (Ikarus) IK-3 was well-respected among pilots. It was built in the same factory that produced the Yugoslavian licensed-built Hawker Hurricane. One IK-3 had a Rolls-Royce Merlin III engine installed, just in time for the German invasion, and was destroyed along with other examples in the factory.
You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/ik3-5-1.jpg

[the incivil beast]

Thanks

http://www.marc-till.com/tmp/cockpit6.jpg

This one is definitely less exotic

[MReyn24050]

Northrop F89D Scorpion by any chance.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

That was a quick one :ok:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-89_Scorpion

Mel, you have control

[MReyn24050]

Thank you the incivil beast. Next one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpitquiz276.jpg
Mel

[windriver]

British, RAF, single piston.. late forties early fifties?

[MReyn24050]

windriver.
Not British single engine ,not early 40s but mid 40s.

[evansb]

Is it Japanese?

[MReyn24050]

It is a Japanese aircraft :)

[windriver]

Kawasaki Ki-1001b ?

[the incivil beast]

Nakajima Ki-84a "Hayate" maybe ?

[MReyn24050]

Neither the Kawasaki Ki-1001b nor the Nakajima Ki-84a "Hayate" sorry.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

Kawanishi N1K-2J Shiden Kai ?

[windriver]

Mitsubishi Ki-46 'Dinah ?

[MReyn24050]

Not a Mitsubishi Ki-46 'Dinah. This aircraft was a rare aircraft and was for two crew.
Mel

[evansb]

Yokosuka R2Y Keiun.

[MReyn24050]

evansb takes the accolade once again. :ok: It was the Yokosuka R2Y Keiun.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Yokosuka R2Y Keiun (景雲 - "Beautiful Cloud") was a prototype reconnaissance aircraft built in Japan late in World War II.
Commissioned for the Imperial Japanese Navy after the Yokosuka R1Y design was cancelled due to its disappointing performance estimates, the R2Y borrowed from the German pre-war Heinkel He 119 in its use of coupled engines driving a single propeller. It also featured a tricycle undercarriage arrangement that was possibly influenced by the Messerschmitt Me 509.
Completed in April 1945, the prototype made a short flight on May 8, but was destroyed in a US air raid only a few days later, thus ending development.
A proposal was also made to develop the R2Y into a turbojet-powered light bomber by replacing its piston engines with two Ishikawajima Ne-330s. Designated the R2Y2 Keiun-Kai, little progress on the design was made before the end of the war.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/yokosuka_r2y.jpg
You have control

[evansb]

Thaks Mel, that was another excellent challenge. Here is the next 'What Cockpit'
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3219878.jpg

[windriver]

Is this aircraft currently airworthy/flyable?

[evansb]

A registry I accessed indicates the aircraft was last active in 1976, and no current information is available. The photo was taken outside on a turf apron, not inside a museum. Other than the gyro-horizon, and perhaps the compass, I think the panel is original.

Further research indicates that the aircraft is probably no longer airworthy.

[MReyn24050]

Just a stab in the dark a Nardi FN-315 perhaps?

[windriver]

There's Venom and L29 Delfin in there... but I don`t think it's either.. Is it European?

[evansb]

It is European, it is not a jet, and it is similar to the Nardi.

[the incivil beast]

Bulgarian Lazarov LAZ-7M, per chance ?

[MReyn24050]

It is European, it is not a jet, and it is similar to the Nardi
The Nardi was an Italian two-seater (tandem) tail dragging monoplane produced in 1938, with inline engine a retractable U/C. Looking at the photograph the canopy appears to be hinged. Is this aircraft of the same vintage? However I think the incivil beast may well be correct.
Mel

[evansb]

Not a LAZ-7M. Canopy was indeed hinged to one side. It is a retractable tail-dragger. Approximately 220 were produced in the post-WW.II era.
A few were sold to foreign air forces, but most were operated in its country of origin.

[the incivil beast]

Yugoslav Utva-213, then ?

[MReyn24050]

How about the Fiat G.55B?

[evansb]

Not the UTVA-213, nor the FIAT G.55B. Mel is very close.

[MReyn24050]

Staying with Fiat How about the Fiat G.46-4B. This plane is a version of a Fiat G.46 transitional trainer built after WW II in Italy as a single and two seat basic trainer. The first model was a G.46-1B flown in the summer of 1947. The largest production run was the G.46-1B (205 hp Alfa Romeo 115bis engine) two seater trainer built for the Italian AF.

[evansb]

A FIAT G.46 it is, Mel!:ok: Very few of this well handling aircraft remain airworthy. The cockpit photo is of a FIAT G.46-3A, built between 1950-51, with a 6-cylinder Alfa Romeo engine. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/fiatG46camo.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri. Next Challenge.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpitquiz277.jpg

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft first flew early 1940s and was produced in reasonable numbers.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

Macchi C-202 Folgore.

[MReyn24050]

the incivil beast. You have it, Macchi C-202 Folgore, that is the one :ok::D
You have control.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

Thanks mel,

Here is a link to the Folgore page on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchi_C.202)

Here is the new challenge :

http://www.marc-till.com/tmp/cockpit7.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Lavochkin La-11 perhaps?

[the incivil beast]

Sorry mel, not Russian

[evansb]

Soko J20 (P-2) Kraguj?

[the incivil beast]

Sorry, not Yugoslav either (but the continent is correct).
BTW, it is older than both your suggestions.

[MReyn24050]

A PZL.50 Jastrzab?

[the incivil beast]

Sorry Mel, not Polish either.
You have to look towards the "other side".

[MReyn24050]

European Not Russian,Polish or Yugoslavian, hint is look towards the "other side". Well both Russia and Poland were to Allies. Certainly is not an Me109,110 or FW190 or any other German aircraft that I know so must be a Italian yet instruments do not appear to so.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

Not Italian either, the country it comes from was home to a famous aerodynamicist (not von Kármán, so Hungary is ruled out)

[MReyn24050]

The Avia Av-135 perhaps?

[the incivil beast]

Quite a clever guess, one must say, as Vincenc Strouhal (who was Czech) worked on vortex instabilities before Von Kármán : see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Kármán_vortex_street)

But is is not the Avia Av-135 which started its life on the allies' side. Things changed on March 15th 1939 (WWII somewhat started a bit earlier in some places :uhoh: )

However, you could find another clue on AH&N, these days.

[MReyn24050]

We will try Ludwig Prandtl's home country Germany and the Heinkel He100D perhaps?

[the incivil beast]

Sorry Mel, it's not German either.

The last hint relates to a post not far from this one ...

[MReyn24050]

Well the Dewoitine 520 was mentioned when the Avia Av-135 was last mentioned. However the Dewoitine also took part in the Battle for France on behalf of the Allies.

[the incivil beast]

French it is neither (and IIRC the Dewoitine 520 already ran)

The country we are talking about joined the axis' side in 1940 (Vichy France didn't join the axis and it didn't fight against the allies except for some skirmishes)

The clue is another (quite recent) post on AH&N

[MReyn24050]

Must be the weather cannot see the wood for the trees. Axis Power well Roumania was on the Axis Side so I will try the I.A.R. 80.

[the incivil beast]

And the I.A.R. 80 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAR-80) it is ! :ok::ok:
I recommend reading the "references" article (link at page bottom)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/IAR-80.jpg

The aerodynamicist was Henri Coandă (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Coandă), the clue was prince Constantin Cantacuzino (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=284855) (who didn't fly IAR-80s but Bf-109s)

Well done Mel !
you have control

[MReyn24050]

Thanks the incivil beast. That was a very interesting challenge, I must admit I was suffering from a case of tunnelled vision in that I was not looking outside of this thread when considering your clue regarding AH&N.
This next one should be much easier.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz25a.jpg

[the incivil beast]

Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy ?

[MReyn24050]

I said it would be easy.:):ok:. It was the Armstrong Whitworth A.W.650 Argosy
You have control.

[the incivil beast]

Thanks Mel
I wasn't that sure of myself ;)
here is the next one
http://www.marc-till.com/tmp/cockpit8.jpg

[evansb]

Is the aircraft from France?

[the incivil beast]

Oui Monsiuer !

[evansb]

Sud-Ouest SO.9000?

[MReyn24050]

Nord 1500 Griffon

[the incivil beast]

evansb is right, it is indeed the SNCASO SO-9000 Trident :ok:

some information in English on the EADS website (http://www.eads.com/1024/en/eads/history/wings_of_time/chronology/1951_1960/1953.html)
it has to be corrected though, as the Trident was not designed as a fighter but as an interceptor
detailed information (in French) (http://jpcolliat.free.fr/trident/trident-1.htm)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/SO.9000_Trident.JPG/800px-SO.9000_Trident.JPG

evansb, you have control

[evansb]

Thanks! Here is the next What Cockpit? Only 16 were built. This restored example is airworthy.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3246008.jpg

[evansb]

Attention Gents!..and Ppruners as well.;) I am going on vacation tomorrow, so a correct response to my latest 'What Cockpit?' would be appreciated. :)

[Akubra]

Has this craft been made into a trainer but had originally had a rear facing gunner?
Was it a naval aircraft?

[MReyn24050]

Interesting. A British Manufacturered Fire Extinguisher but I do not think the aircraft is British. Fairly low upper mainplane. I think this aircraft is the Caproni Ca.113

[evansb]

Not military. Not British, not Italian. The aircraft established an historic first for its type in it's country of origin.

[the incivil beast]

Could it be the Buhl-Verville Airster two-seat biplane, "first civil aircraft to be certificated in U.S "?
I have trouble finding pics clearly identifying it, though

[evansb]

It is American, but not the Buhl-Verville. The mystery aircraft first flew in 1926.

[MReyn24050]

It must be the Ryan M-1.The Ryan M-1 was the first monoplane produced in series in America, inspired from the Wright-Bellanca WB-1. It was designed by T.Claude Ryan, and calculated and drafted by Bill Waterhouse. The first flight of the type took place on February 14, 1926 from Dutch Flats, California, USA.

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Auliard/1954.jpg

[evansb]

You are correct, Mel.:ok: The Ryan M-1 in the cockpit photo originally flew the air-mail on the western coastal route. You have control.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri, interesting aircraft. Going somewhere good for your holiday?
Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpitquiz278.jpg
Mel

[asw28-866]

Control columns look like something out of a Citroen 2CV! Is it French?

[evansb]

Mel, I know this one. Check your PM.

[MReyn24050]

asw28-866 - No this one is not French.
evansb - Bri you are correct, have a good holiday.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

Pre-WWII US single I'd say

The winshield angle has something of the Beech-17 Staggerwing, but I'm quite sure I'd be wrong if I mentionned that airplane ...

[MReyn24050]

the incivil beast It is a Pre-WWII US single but not Beech-17 Staggerwing.
Mel

[pigboat]

Luscombe Silvaire?

[MReyn24050]

Pigboat - Sorry for the delay, not Luscombe Silvaire, this bird was a low wing aircraft.

[On-MarkBob]

I'm quite sure i've flown this aircraft or one like it, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is. When you get to my age you've forgotton more than you currently know. but you cannot forget those control wheels!
I'll have a stab at a Temco Swift.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry not the Temco Swift.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

This single engine 4 place aircraft was named after it's designer and constructor, who was an aeronautical engineer in southern California. Unfortunately less than a dozen were built. A number still exists some of which are in flying condition.
Mel

[On-MarkBob]

How about the Thorpe Sky Scooter?

[MReyn24050]

This one was not a John Thorpe design although it did originate in the same part of the world.
Mel

[LowNSlow]

It's not the Howard DGA by some slim chance?

[MReyn24050]

Your right it is not the Howard DGA. However the designer and builder's surname began with the letter H.
Mel

[pigboat]

Harlow PJC-2??

[MReyn24050]

It is the Harlow PJC-2.:D:ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/HarlowPJC-2N65296.jpg
You have control.
Mel

[the incivil beast]

Not hijacking this thread, just slipping in to point out that it's probably the biggest aircraft ever built successfully by college students :ok:
PJC =Pasadena Junior College

[MReyn24050]

The Harlow PJC-2 is a 4-place metal monoplane from the late 30s. It is named after Max Harlow, who was an aeronautical engineer in southern California from the late 20s to the mid 40s, and after Pasadena Junior College (PJC). At the time the airplane was designed, Max Harlow was working as an instructor at the college, and the PJC-2 was the second design done as a class project. The design looked good enough that Harlow went into business actually building the aircraft at Alhambra Airport in LA in 1940.

[pigboat]

Resembles a junior edition of the Spartan Executive, doesn't it?

Since I've exhausted my selection of cockpit photos, I'll leave the field open to someone else.

[MReyn24050]

Here is an easy one to keep the thread moving.A give away in fact.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpitquiz197.jpg
Mel

[asw28-866]

If I am not mistaken a very big bird indeed, the AN-225?

'866'

[MReyn24050]

You are not mistaken it is the very big bird, the AN-225. :ok::D
You have control.
Mel

[asw28-866]

Another straightforward one from a 'wonderful' book I have recently been perusing:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/cockpit2907070001.jpg

'866'

[Kitbag]

Hawker tempest?

[MReyn24050]

Looks like a twin engined aircraft to me. I was going to suggest that it was a Westland Whirlwind but we have that twice and although the control column and main flying instruments are similar the throttles levers are different. The Welkin perhaps?

[asw28-866]

Kitbag, not the Tempest
Mel, Not the Welkin

Gents, you are in the right general area regarding geography and era, this is a single engined aircraft.

'866'

[HappyJack260]

Sea Fury / Fury?

[MReyn24050]

We have had the Hawker Sea Fury, therefore possibly a Blackburn Firebrand?
Mel

[asw28-866]

Happy Jack260: Sorry not one of Hawker's
Mel: Not by Blackburn either

Unlike the Firebrand this aircraft was built in considerable numbers

'866'

[Akubra]

Fairey Fulmar perhaps?

[asw28-866]

Sorry Akubra, this aircraft was not built by Fairey

However, a small number of the total built were operated by the Fleet Air Arm

[windriver]

Miles Master?

[asw28-866]

Windriver has it the Miles Master.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/cockpit2907072.jpg

Windriver, you have control

[windriver]

Relieved to have got one at last.. haven't come close on the last few challenges...Surprised this type wasn`t on the list.

Here goes...

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/17kl9.jpg

[asw28-866]

OK I'll start the ball rolling....Handley Page Hermes?

[windriver]

Yep.. Well Done asw28-866 - It's the Handley Page Hermes... (I`ll edit a piccy here later when I find one)

You have control.

[asw28-866]

Thank you Windriver, here is the next challenge, very straightforward:O

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/cockpit010807.jpg

'866'

[Mr_Grubby]

Bristol Britannia ?

Clint.

[asw28-866]

Mr Grubby, you are quite correct:D
The Britannia it is, you have control...
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/bb.jpg

Remember this one at Biggin Hill in the early 70's

'886'

[Mr_Grubby]

I'm not able to post a pic. right now so I'll open it to the floor.

Clint.

[evansb]

Here is the next cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3310.jpg

[HappyJack260]

Vampire single seater - possibly F1?

[evansb]

Sorry HappyJack, not a Vampire. The aircraft is not from Great Britain.

[Kitbag]

Mr Dassaults Ouragan?

[oncemorealoft]

Saab Tunnan?

[evansb]

oncemorealoft is correct:ok: It is a SAAB J.29 Tunnan.
The highly manoeuvrable swept-wing fighter first flew in 1948, with over 600 examples being produced. It held the world speed record in 1954. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/J29Barrel.jpg

[evansb]

Would anyone like to post a cockpit photo? Now would be a good time.:)

[Fitter2]

Just to keep the pot boiling, an interesting variant (exact type needed)

http://i19.tinypic.com/4qj107a.jpg

[evansb]

Check your personal messages. ;)

[MReyn24050]

Also as evansb says check your PMs. I will also hold back on identification, so the challenge can continue for others.
Mel

[con-pilot]

F-106 B, the two seat version?

[Fitter2]

Hi Mreyn and EvansSB, thanks for PMs - I thought I had covered bases but not carefully enough. Anyway, its a potboiler to keep things going.

Con-pilot - homing in rapidly, but this particular example according to the operator had a unique role.

[asw28-866]

Used by Nasa as a manned lightning conductor perhaps?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/fig124.jpg

'866'

If I'm right, con-Pilot please take the floor I needed your input;)

[Fitter2]

Thanks ASW, that's the one - the QF106. As an aerotowing expert you would have recognised the technique.

Over to whoever.

[Fitter2]

The movie clip

http://tinyurl.com/2ohztc

shows it in operation - you don't see a Mach1 + fighter on aerotow very often.

Apologies for the duplication, and thanks to the regulars for politely pointing it out. On the published list F106 was listed, but not the Q variant, used in this project, as target drones and finally as the matrix for artificail undersea reefs. All a little different from the design role.

[asw28-866]

Thank you Fitter2, to fill the gap a quick one for Sunday afternoon, from the training material for one of the offices at work....

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/cockpit0508070001.jpg

'866'

[BSD]

Cessna Caravan?

Just back from hols, and off to earn a crust for the next 7 days.

Open house please folks if I'm right.

Cheers,

BSD

[asw28-866]

BSD is of course correct it is the Cessna 208 Caravan...

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/capthowie_photos/caravan1.jpg

As BSD stated, the floor is open...

[windriver]

Nice easy one to be going on with...Year, Aircraft and Pilot please.

http://www.content-delivery.co.uk/3oio9i.jpg

[Fitter2]

Samuel Franklin Cody, Cody Mk 5, 1912????

[windriver]

Fitter2 Yes.. It's Cody

Just need a bit more on the (popular) name of the aircraft and the year (pre 1912)

[evansb]

The British Army Aeroplane No.1, sometimes called the Cody 1, October 16th, 1908.

[windriver]

1908... a bit later in fact this picture dates from 1909

Otherwise sorry to be pedantic....this aircraft had an impressive popular name....

[HappyJack260]

You referring to the "Longhorn"?

[evansb]

Is this Samuel Cody's Flying Cathedral you are referring to?http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/cody_1C_cathedral_1_350.jpg

[Speedpig]

Haven't we already had this one?
:\

[windriver]

evansb completed the challenge.. It's the Cathedral.

Speedpig... My master list is on another PC so if it's featured before I apologise. (any chance of an updated list?)

evansb has control...

[evansb]

Here is the next 'What Cockpit?'
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/whatCockpit.jpg

[Kitbag]

Seeing as no one else is playing, how about a Westland-Hill Pteradactyl?

[evansb]

Sorry Kitbag, not the Westland-Hill Pteradactyl. The mystery aircraft first flew in 1949. One is on display at a museum.

[MReyn24050]

Leduc 0.10 Experimental Ramjet perhaps? However, I am sure the pilot in this machine was prone!

[evansb]

Sorry, Mel, not the Leduc 0.10. The mystery aircraft was not French, nor British. The pilot sat conventionally. The forward visibility was not quite as restricted as it seems from the photo.

[the incivil beast]

evansb's challenge

I'm quite sure I have seen pics of this plane (the clue being those triangular windows), is it German per chance ?

[evansb]

Sorry, not German.

[larssnowpharter]

Not the Ae 50 perchance?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Ae.50. The mystery aircraft was single-place, of mostly wooden construction. It was civilian, of amateur design, and it was listed in Jane's All The World's Aircraft. Only one was believed to have been built.

[Kitbag]

Following from your comments re visibility and looking at the rope handles, was the (Italian?) pilot seated in a very laid back position for normal flight, raising to a more conventional position for landing?

[evansb]

The seat was in a fixed position. It is not Italian, go much farther north for the country of origin. The aircraft held a unique position for its category. Here is a view looking down on the pilot's seat. Note the small armrests. The top of the photo is towards the nose of the aircraft.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/seat-top-forward.jpg

[Kitbag]

Has anybody out there got Janes from 1949-50. This latest challenge is doing my head in :{

[evansb]

It is listed in the 1948 Jane's AWA, but the name of the aircraft was mispelled, and subsequently corrected in the 1950 JAWA. The aircraft was originally equipped with a French built 25-hp Poinsard engine, but due to crankcase failure, it was replaced by a U.S. built 40-hp Continental.

[MReyn24050]

The Raab Krahe perhaps?

[evansb]

Sorry Mel, not a Raab Krahe. The mystery aircraft was not a motor glider. She cruised at 145 km/h, and had a top speed of 165 km/h.

[MReyn24050]

How about the single-seat amphibian Eklund TE-1. Preserved at Finnish Aviation Museum
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/EklundTE-1.jpg

[evansb]

Mel is correct.:ok: The Finnish designed Eklund TE-1 first took to the air on February 24, 1949, with wheels attached, so it was an amphibian. Some time during her life, the wheels and retracting mechanism were removed. It is still classified as the world's smallest flying boat.
You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/EklundTE-1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks bri, that was a very interesting challenge. This one will not be so difficult.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz279.jpg
Mel

[windriver]

This one will not be so difficult. Right. :)

1930's French?

[MReyn24050]

You are going in the right direction. Yes French, yes early 1930s.
Mel

[windriver]

Dewoitine D 503 ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Dewoitine D 503 I am afraid.
Mel

[larssnowpharter]

MS 230 by any chance?

[MReyn24050]

Not the MS 230 I am afraid.
Mel

[larssnowpharter]

May we eliminate aircraft from the Morane Saulnier stable?

[MReyn24050]

Yes this aircraft is neither from the Morane Saulnier nor Dewoitine stables.
Mel

[Akubra]

Latecoere 49?

[MReyn24050]

This one was not from Latecoere either sorry.
Mel

[larssnowpharter]

This one will not be so difficult

Your sense of humour is showing!

French, 30s, not Latecoere, Morane Saulnier, Dewoitine.

Hmm, could it possibly be that Caudron Simoun that the author of 'Le Petit Prince' once broke?

[MReyn24050]

Your sense of humour is showing!

Sorry Larrs I really didn't think it would be difficult after evansb last challenge.
Unfortunately, Larrs, it is not the Caudron Simoun that the author of 'Le Petit Prince' once broke.

It is as stated French and is a single engined aircraft.
Mel

[Akubra]

Potez 37 / 39 or the later 390 possibly?

[larssnowpharter]

No need to be sorry! I just really don't know my way around French aircraft.

[MReyn24050]

Akubra has it was the cockpit of a Potez 39.:D:ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/potez39-1.jpg
You have control Akubra

[Akubra]

Thanks Mel, A good challenge, even after some good clues!

I don't think we have had this one before.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/acubra/wcp6.jpg

[evansb]

Interstate S-1B2 Arctic Tern. Here is an old Interstate Cadet built in the 1940s:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/InterstateCadet.jpg

[Akubra]

You are correct evansb!
It must be a great aircraft after 60 years of development.
http://www.interstateaircraft.com/

[evansb]

Thanks Akubra. A comedic airshow act touring western Canada and the U.S. this summer features an Interstate built in 1942, flown by Kent Pietsch.

Here is the next 'What Cockpit?'. If it has been posted before, please advise and I'll replace it.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3387215.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Interesting. The control column would indicate a rotary aircraft, i.e. the bleep switch, centre, on the top of the column handle, yet left hand of pilot on window frame would not support this idea,also instruments. If rotary one would think it would be on the collective lever.

[evansb]

The spring-mounted gyro panel would indicate the designers had big hopes for this aircraft. She started out in one category, but found popularity in another.

[windriver]

This picture was taken on the 10th May 2004 (at 10.55 am) so it's quite possibly still alive and kicking somewhere...

2200 rpm - 75kt at 1500' and long lever column suggests that its slow flying (loiter) capability might be it's unique selling proposition. (a la Optica)

It's difficult to be sure but the "collective" appears not to be a collective at all but part of the main control column - so guessing at conventional fixed wing.

Unless the manufacturer picked up the control columns at a military surplus sale there seems to be rather a lot of buttons - so maybe these provide a clue...photo, observation, survey perhaps?

Finally by the looks of things the engine seems to be somewhere other than at the front... so maybe ducted fan at rear?

Do I score anything out of 10?

[evansb]

It is not a rotary-wing, nor a ducted fan. A few remain on the U.K. registry.

[ICT_SLB]

PZL Wilga? Seem to remember an old Scots boss of mine who was into gliders had a type rating on one as a tow plane. In the unlikely event I'm right, it's open house as I haven't any suitable piccys.

[evansb]

Not a Wilga.

[larssnowpharter]

An aero L60?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Aero L60.

[windriver]

Dornier DO27 ??

[windriver]

Not a Lycoming powered Beagle/Auster/Taylorcraft variant by any chance?

[MReyn24050]

How about a Benes Mraz M.1.C Sokol?

[evansb]

Sorry Windriver, not a British built aircraft. The engine is out front though. Sorry Mel, not a Benes-Mraz. Not Czech, but it was built on the continent.

[Dick Whittingham]

The control column top looks just like the one I used to hold on the T-33. The centre button was the up down and sideways trim. US ex-military spares store?

Dick W

[evansb]

Yes, quite likely. Other than the grips and the GPS, I think the cockpit is mostly original. I am unable to locate a photo of a factory-fresh cockpit.

[windriver]

Socata Rallye something perhaps?

[evansb]

Not a Socata Rallye. The mystery aircraft was designed as an artillery spotting and liaison aircraft. It later found favour with flying clubs and private owners. Early versions were powered by an in-line inverted air-cooled engine, later models were powered by horizontally opposed, four-cylinder engines.

[larssnowpharter]

Possibly one of the variants of the Yak 12?

[puddinghead]

Perhaps it's a Nord Norvigie

[asw28-866]

Chrislea Super Ace, or Sky Jeep?

[MReyn24050]

Facts we now know.
but it was built on the continent.
She started out in one category, but found popularity in another.
The mystery aircraft was designed as an artillery spotting and liaison aircraft. It later found favour with flying clubs and private owners. Early versions were powered by an in-line inverted air-cooled engine, later models were powered by horizontally opposed, four-cylinder engines
Could we establish whether this aircraft was built in Western Europe or Eastern Europe?

[MReyn24050]

Wild guess the Danish S.A.I KZ-X MkII perhaps?

[Akubra]

If not Mels Guess, I would guess the Nord 856?
Edit: Whoops!- puddinghead beat me to it. :)

[MReyn24050]

Well if not the NC 856a Nord Norvigie then the SNCAN Nord NC858S.

[puddinghead]

I'm off to do some work - well, what passes for work for PH - won't be back till next week.

Akubra - please do carry on if we're right!

PH

[evansb]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/nord_powerchecks-1.jpg
It is a SNCAN/Nord NC.854S Norvegie, built in 1950. puddinghead was the first to mention the Norvegie.:ok: He has control. The SNCAC/SNCAN Nord NC-840/850/860 family has an arcane production history, dating from 1946, with the aircraft being powered by over 7 different powerplants. One early version was powered by a Mathis radial engine. SNCAC ceased operating in July of 1949, production was then continued by SNCAN. There were a few tricycle gear models. A small number of 850s were called 'Norclub'. It would seem the true 'Norvegie' was the version built for the French Army, but the appellation seems to have become common to all of the series. Approximately 280 airframes were completed, the last in 1953.

[Akubra]

Unfortunately I don't have a photo ready to post.
Mel, Do you have a challenge? If not then I guess the floor is open.

[MReyn24050]

Akubra. Here is one to fill the gap.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpitquiz280.jpg
Mel

[windriver]

Time to worry... he didn`t say it was an easy one. :suspect:

Is this a wooden aircraft?

[MReyn24050]

windriver:- Time to worry... he didn`t say it was an easy one

I do not think it will be difficult though.

Is this a wooden aircraft?
Yes, It is mainly constructed of wood.

[Akubra]

Is it a flying boat?
Sure looks like the classic lines of one but the controls are modern.
Is is a refurbished classic or a homebuilt?

[MReyn24050]

Akubra.
It is a flying boat and a homebuilt.

[Fitter2]

Volmer VJ22?

[MReyn24050]

Fitter2 has it.:ok::D. It is indeed a Volmer VJ-22.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/VolmerVJ-22.jpg
You have control.
Mel

[Fitter2]

I am ashamed to say the power of google worked its magic, once the words 'homebuild' and 'flying boat' came together. Apologies for jumping in ahead of Akubra, I guess in Australia he was asleep.

An easy one, as it is all I have to hand - hopefully someone more deserving will come up with a real challenge.

http://i9.tinypic.com/4qi4mqh.jpg

[windriver]

Fitter2... you're kidding when you say easy! These glass cockpit jobbies all look the same to me.

I`ll have a stab though at a Diamond Katana.

[evansb]

It must be Rotax powered, as are dozens of new VLAs. I'll say it is a very late model Europa XS.

[Fitter2]

Correct, a Europa XS Tri-gear (actually G-LINN if you are into that sort of thing). First flight July 2005.

I think more PFA types are glass than round dials these days, if the ones I wire up and sort are anything to go by.

Over to you, Evansb.

[evansb]

Thanks Fitter2. Here is the next one, complete with round dials:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3412244.jpg

[MReyn24050]

That looks very much like an Airbus A300.
Mel

[evansb]

Airbus A300 is spot on.:ok: Mel, you have control.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri, here is the next one. I am sure this will cause no problems.Sorry for the poor quality of the photograph.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz281.jpg
Mel

[Kitbag]

You're not wrong about the quality there Mel!
Seems to me to have 'spectacle' type controls (with everything to stbd), 6 engines? and fairly primitive/limited flight instruments. Early 30's, Civil flying boat?

[MReyn24050]

Yes sorry about the quality, 1930s yes but not a flying boat and divide the number of engines you suggest by 2.
Mel

[stevef]

Wild guess - Spartan Cruiser?

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was not from the USA.
Mel

[larssnowpharter]

I am guessing at Savoia Marchetti and probably the earlier S71

[MReyn24050]

larssnowpharter, you are in the right neck of the woods but this one was not from the Savoia Marchetti stable.

[evansb]

Caproni Ca.133?

As an aside, Stevef guessed the Spartan Cruiser, (thread #2481). A very credible guess, I might add, as the design was based on the elegant Saro-Percival Mail Plane. Built in collaboration with Saunders-Roe, it was indeed a tri-motor aeroplane built in the 1930s.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/spartancruiser.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Well done Bri it is the Caproni Ca.133 :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/ca133_c.jpg
You have control

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. Here is the next 'What Cockpit?'
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3419200.jpg

[evansb]

Clues: The aircraft was a bit historical, and the vehicle that towed it aloft on its first flight evokes nostalgia. ;)

[MReyn24050]

That would be the MF2-F1 Wingless lifting body then which was towed by a Douglas C-47.
Mel

[evansb]

Mel is correct. :ok:It is indeed the in-house built and designed Dryden/NASA
M2-F1 lifting body/glider. An engineer who worked on the Hughes Hercules flying boat assisted in the building of the M2-F1's wooden fuselage. A 1963 Pontiac was used to tow the M2-F1 aloft on its maiden flight. Chuck Yeager was one of several test pilots to fly this bird back to earth.
You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Pontiac.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/M2-F1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I understand that the M2-F1 lifting body/glider also undertook some 100 air tows behind NASA's C47.
This next one will cause no problems I am sure.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz282.jpg

[windriver]

There's something familiar about this one, but I just can`t place it... so if it's not too early in the challenge some elimination tactics...

British, Military, 50's 2 engines...

[Kitbag]

British, Military, 50's 2 engines...

but no gunsight, 'big' aircraft type controls, and some bolt on extras on the r/h side of the panel.

Wild guess...

A Gannet that has seen better days?

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was not British, however it was a twin and originated in the 1950s.
Mel

[innuendo]

Not a Vautour by any chance?

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft is not from France,sorry.
Mel

[Kitbag]

Totally clutching here... Martin B57 Canberra?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry but this aircraft is not from the USA either.
Mel

[stevef]

Something about the control column makes me think 'Russian'.
(Maybe I should think again!)

[MReyn24050]

As they say you are getting warmer.
Mel

[Kitbag]

The last Lavochkin- La250?