What Cockpit ?

[forget]

The Dart version had 4 engines. The first Argosy was a little earlier.

Armstrong Whitworth Argosy.
Power Plant: Three 385 h.p. Direct-Drive Jaguar (Mk.I)
or Three 410 h.p. Geared Jaguar IV A (Mk.II)

[cringe]

Ah, thanks (I forgot about that). The original Argosy would be too early.

[gas path]

Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero?

[cringe]

Getting warmer. We already had the SM.79 though.

[LowNSlow]

Is it the SM 82 Marsupiale bomber?

[cringe]

A bomber, but not the SM.82.

[MReyn24050]

I will go for the Savoia-Marchetti SM.81

[cringe]

It's not a Savoia-Marchetti product.

[cringe]

I hope this helps:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk19b.jpg

[forget]

Caproni....................

[cringe]

Try again... :)

[682al]

Cant Z 1007

[cringe]

Spot on, 682al. :ok: The Italian Cant Z 1007 bomber it was. 500+ single and twin-tailed examples built.

[682al]

Thanks cringe, my knowledge of foreign tri motors is growing quickly thanks to you!
Here's a toughie, no clues except to say it was way ahead of it's time...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/untitled5.jpg

[foxmoth]

TSR2 - just on the clue.:}

[Bert Stiles]

Supercar

I loved watching those rpm clocks wind up in the 1st episode.

[Mr_Grubby]

Fireball XL5


C.

[foxmoth]

I see I am taking this too seriously:hmm:

[JDK]

Dr Who's Tardis (also behind it's own time and alongside it's own time on occasion... :confused: )

Miles M-52

And I KNEW I'd kick myself over the Cant. Rats...

There's an amazing hijack story of a floatplane one by a British crew during W.W.II. "Take this aircraft to Malta" "Si!"

Cheers

[gas path]

Bert
I don't think it's Supercar 'cause those engines needed to wind upto 15000 rpm before selecting 'Fire':eek: :8

[682al]

Ah, but it's a dual needle rev counter gas path, probably good for 20,000 r.p.m. or more.
Bert gets it! I was going to use this but it would have been even easier...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/bat-dash-2.jpg
More of the artists work can be seen here...
http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/GA/supercar-3d.html

[Bert Stiles]

Isn't that a 3 position sprung switch start-off-fire ?

Mike's just about to press start. - sorry I mean charge.

[gas path]

Doh! I can see the 2 pointers now:hmm: ...foiled again!
http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/GA/supercar-licence.html I had one of these:D

[Bert Stiles]

Too busy replying to gas path.

That was so much easier than the Cant. Like JDK I guess, I dismissed it a couple of times because I didn't appreciate the tandem layout. Still as a consequence I found out about the Piaggio P123 which I'd never heard of.

I can't set difficult ones so here:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/140.jpg

[B Fraser]

"No Smoking" suggests the USA :rolleyes:

[jabberwok]

Beech of some sort? Swingover yoke is similar to the Staggerwing.

[Bert Stiles]

Yes US. Not a Beech.

[mfaff]

It has that Navion type feeling....

[JDK]

I've got that Navion feeling? UnWright Bros?

Sorry. :cool:

I have no idea, obviously. ;)

[Bert Stiles]

Not a Navion.

Non current in the UK that I know of. Should be very easy though - shame on you JDK.

[682al]

Republic Seabee?

[Bert Stiles]

Of http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/N6566K-2.jpg












course. All yours.

[682al]

Thanks Bert, this won't be tooooo diff....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/altered.jpg

[cringe]

Bristol Scout ?

[682al]

Well, I was right about it not taking too long! Congrats once again cringe.

[cringe]

Thank you. I must admit to stumbling upon that drawing a while ago.

Let's see if this looks familiar to anyone:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk22.jpg

[forget]

Northrop F5....................

[cringe]

Wrong, sorry.

[gas path]

Aermacchi MB326...?

[cringe]

Nope, not Italian this time. :D

[Bert Stiles]

Prototype PC-9 if there was such a thing ?

[cringe]

You're much closer, but it's not a Pilatus.

[Fris B. Fairing]

Firecracker?

[cringe]

Not the Firecracker. This one isn't a one-off.

[gas path]

KT1 basic trainer. Korea Aerospace Industries.
a serious contender for the Turkish airforces' T37 replacement.

[cringe]

You got it, gas path. Well done!

[MReyn24050]

Forgive me for jumping in but to get things going again here is a another easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpitb.jpg

[B Fraser]

Boeing Stratocruiser ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry, not the Stratocruiser.

[PPRuNe Pop]

Britannia?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry, PPruNe Pop, not the Britannia.

[Conan the Librarian]

I would have a pop at a Sunderland, but it is little more than a guess...

Conan

[wonderboysteve]

Shackleton?

[682al]

Looks like the Bristol Brabazon.

[MReyn24050]

682al
You have it in one.You have control

[682al]

Thanks MReyn24050,

Shall we try something a little different again? ('cos I'm running out of cockpit photos!)

Lots of clues in this one, shouldn't take that long...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Untitled-4.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

OK I'll play. It's better than the Avro contol wheel.

Thinking aloud - if you see what I mean:

Obviously:

British
Military
Single engined piston
Single pilot
Attack
Late 40's but could be wartime.
With usefully adjustable landing lights (their own friction - knob!)

Where this handy bracket would fit in the cockpit I don't know but I guess - on the port for'ard wall. What a bunch of bananas.

So - Westland Wyvern ?

[682al]

Yes, British
Yes, Military
Yes, Single piston engine
No, not single pilot
No, not attack
No, not late forties but wartime(ish)
No, not adjustable landing lights as far as I know - just a case of "up" or "down"
:)

[MReyn24050]

Fairey Barracuda?

[682al]

Not Barracuda.

Think smaller.

[MReyn24050]

Fairey Battle perhaps?

[682al]

Not Battle.

Not naval either.

[Bert Stiles]

Miles Master

[682al]

Correctamundo, Bert Stiles!

Over to you.

[Bert Stiles]

Thanks, but I'll have to hand it on to anyone who wants it.

[MReyn24050]

I will jump in again, thanks Bert, with another easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpitrr.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

Rohrbach Roland (RoVIII ?)

[MReyn24050]

WOW, Bert. That was quick well done. You have control once again

[Bert Stiles]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/fairchild.gif

You all seem to be able to find much more interesting stuff than I can. Dont think it'll last long but here goes.

[Saab Dastard]

Bert,

That REALLY is a toughie! Any clues? ;)

The mystery aeroplane without a cockpit photo!

Totally at random - Fairchild 71?

[Bert Stiles]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/7259.jpg

Saab you're spot on and I know you didn't do it through the properties 'cos I always disguise them. Wow what an ace.

Hope you liked the new format. Should we have more?.

[cringe]

Bert, we already had the Fairchild 71 here some time ago, posted by MReyn24050 if I'm not mistaken.

[Bert Stiles]

Sorry, it's too involved now. I actually tried to post a Canadair Argus but it didn't work. Saab did the rest. I reckon it's his go now.

[cringe]

Sorry, I didn't mean to detract from Saab's accomplishment. Sure, it's your call who goes next.

[Saab Dastard]

Ah, it's just a bit of fun! ;)
Thanks Bert - here's one I couldn't resist:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/Saab-Dastard/Mystery%20Cockpit/mystery3.jpg
I don't expect it to la
WELL! that was quick!

[fernytickles]

Saab / BAeS Gripen

[fernytickles]

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7860/mystery0zd.jpg

[cringe]

Wright Hughes 1B (Hughes H-1 Racer reproduction).

Sadly this aircraft crashed in 2003, killing its builder Jim Wright.

[MReyn24050]

and this was the aircraft in question.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/WrightHughes1B.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/HughesH1.jpg


Very sad end to a fine aeroplane and expert aviator.


C.

[simon niceguy]

cringe.
As nobody has yet replied, can I have a go ?

Simon.

[cringe]

Be my guest, Simon.

[simon niceguy]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit-7.jpg

[gas path]

Hunting Percival Piston Provost T1?

[simon niceguy]

gas path.

Nope.


S.

[682al]

MS 733 Alcyon?

[gas path]

Socata MS 893 Rallye or its Polish licence built equivalent?

[simon niceguy]

No, none of those.
Think Eastern European.
Only 130 were built.

S.

[forget]

Utva 66................................

[simon niceguy]

Correct forget.
Over to you.

Simon.

[forget]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/4159637.jpg

[cringe]

Beriev Be-103

[forget]

Certainly is! :ok:

[cringe]

Anyone else want to play? Open house for posting the next challenge.

[spitfire]

Westland Wapiti

[spitfire]

http://i1.tinypic.com/msdmyw.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/msdmvb.jpg

[Rerun]

The photo appears to be that of a Curtiss C-46 "Commando". Probably most famous for flying supplies over the "Hump" in Burma and eastern India during WWII.

[MReyn24050]

Rerun
Which photgraph are you refering too? The Curtiss C-46 "Commando" was Mr_Grubby's very first photgraph used to open this thread.

Spitfire
Is this a Kit Plane?

[cringe]

spitfire,

In the words (but not voice) of Grandad Trotter: Is it a canary?

[fernytickles]

It was not built from a kit.
It is not a canary but it is a Bird.

-edit- this is spitfire BTW, didn't realise I was logged in under my wife's username...

[cringe]

Just to clarify, with the canary I meant the yellow Warwick W-4 Hot Canary racer; obviously a case of adding two and two and getting 5... :)

[spitfire]

Not the Hot Canary. Faster.

[Saab Dastard]

Spitfire, I have no idea what the aircraft is, but the altimeter needs adjusting - it's reading 2800'!!

Can't have used QFE on the last landing! ;)

SD

[spitfire]

Field elevation of this aircraft's home base is 2791 ft.

And from this same airfield, a manned aircraft has flown to over 360,000 ft!!

[spitfire]

Mojave, yes.

When I mentioned earlier that it was a Bird, that was quite a large hint...

...and it's a design that might be described as having identical form on opposite sides of a central axis.

[cringe]

Cory Bird's Symmetry

http://img.timeinc.net/popsci/images/aviation/avi0304sym1_485x375.jpg

[spitfire]

Alright! :ok:

For anyone that hasn't seen this incredible aeroplane see
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace/923889c49db84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

[cringe]

Having failed to pick up the name hint, I used the airport info to find the Symmetry.

Can someone from the night shift go next, please? :)

[spitfire]

Ford Tri-Motor???

[gas path]

Dunno if this has been done before but............http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/gaspath/cockpit02.jpg

sorry its a tad on the tiny size!

[foxmoth]

Going on the size it is Airfix 1:72 :p

[pigboat]

I'd say the Ford has a manual transmission by the looks of the gearshift lever. ;)

[cringe]

Hope this helps someone: Alphabetical list (http://www.geocities.com/blue_skies52003/list.htm) of the aircraft types used in the cockpit quiz so far

[gas path]

Damn and blast it has been done before! I'm gonna sulk now:(
Grumman Avenger TBM3 it was

Thats a nice list must have taken quite some time:ok:
Apologies to mike for 'jumping the gun'

[pigboat]

Wow, that's quite a list. Great job cringe. :ok:

[spitfire]

http://x2.putfile.com/1/2920130898.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I believe it to be the FVM/CVM Tummiliten (Tummelisa). If so it was previously put up as a challenge by cringe on the 8th Dec 2005.

[spitfire]

Yes it is , sorry, didn't check the list

[MReyn24050]

Spitfire
No problem after all the list is now some 230+ types long. I dont think this one has been up before, not that it will take long before the answer is forth coming.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpit22.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

Good Morning Mel !!

P-38G.

Clint.

[MReyn24050]

Good Morning Clint
Well done. I said it would not take long. Definitely the Lockheed Lightning P-38G In fact Serial No 42-13444. I bet you knew that too Clint.
Over to you

[Mr_Grubby]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit-8.jpg

Try this.


C.

[MReyn24050]

Looking at the cockpit window layout points me towards Tupolev TU-16?

[Mr_Grubby]

Not a TU-16

[MReyn24050]

I will keep with the Russians. Antonov An-26 perhaps?

[Mr_Grubby]

Spot on !

Is it just you and me this morning ? Is nobdy else coming out to play???

Clint.

[MReyn24050]

It would appear that way Clint. Just to keep the ball rolling another easy one, no doubt you will have no trouble with this one.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpitquiz2.jpg

[LowNSlow]

Could it be a Seversky P-35A perchance?

[barit1]

No tachometer?

Must be a twoholer.

[MReyn24050]

LowNSlow
Your perchance is correct it is the Seversky P-35A. You have control. This is the baby concerned.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/ey14.jpg

Mel

[PPRuNe Pop]

Please, before we go any further.

You must stick to a size of 800 x 600 pixels. You will notice that the pic before last was way over size and enlarges the page. Something we don't want.

800 x 600 so please stick to it. Less is ok too with around 600 x 440.

Thanks,

PPP

[MReyn24050]

My sincere apology PPRuNe Pop. At the time of posting it seemed to be well within size. Your point is well understood. I have adjusted the picture to meet the requirements
Mel

[PPRuNe Pop]

Isn't that cheating Mike? Good point but I think I will protect the guys and girls from you. Use a magnifying glass!

I am most of time absolutely baffled but it is great fun to see these sometimes very sparse cockpits. Not sure I would have been happy flying some of them. :eek:

Thanks MReyn, don't go too small though. And no I don't know the type!!

[MReyn24050]

Forgive me for jumping in LowNSlow but to keep things moving thought I would post another easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpitquiz02.jpg

[LowNSlow]

Mreyn, no problem, I don't have anything to post right now anyway :O

[LowNSlow]

Is it a Convair F-102 Delta Dagger?

[MReyn24050]

No. Not the Convair

[LOMCEVAK]

How about Mirage 2000, probably A or B model?

[MReyn24050]

LOMCEVAK
You have it Mirage 2000, not sure about the model! You have control.

[cringe]

I think the pic is of the E model (export version of the C model). Over to LOMCEVAK.

[LOMCEVAK]

Cringe,

I do not have a good, interesting supply - please post one for me.

Rgds

L

[cringe]

OK, thanks. Let's try something a little older:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk23.jpg

PS: Alternatively, Mike can go next. :)

[Vfrpilotpb]

is this De Havilland Rapide?

Vfr

[cringe]

Sorry, not a Rapide. It isn't British.

[Swifty_N]

Japanese or French???

[cringe]

Neither Japanese nor French. About 50 were built.

[treadigraph]

European? (ie I've no idea, but I'm willing to play the game!)

[cringe]

Yes, European. Two known military aviators had one each as their personal transport.

[cringe]

Another pic might help:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk23a.jpg

[MReyn24050]

cringe
Once again you have set us quite a challenge. I am intrigued as to where you manage to find them.
You say it is European yet rule out France and Britain. You also added that it was used by two military aviators as their personal transport. I would tend to think the aircraft is Italian but the nearest I came up with was the Caproni Ca311 however the cockpit canopy is totally different. Please, am I heading in the right direction or am I too far south?
Mel

[AppleMacster]

I've updated the list with the page number taken out, as people can set different numbers of posts to be displayed, thus making confusing reading. We're up to 240 now, with the latest one being 241!
Aircraft Cockpits List (http://homepage.mac.com/applemacster/Flying/AircraftCockpits.htm)

[Saab Dastard]

Is it a SIEBEL Fh 104 Hallore?

[cringe]

Sorry for the delayed reply, I couldn't be back online sooner.

Saab Dastard is correct. Well done! :ok: The Siebel Fh-104 Hallore was flown by Adolf Galland and Ernst Udet.

http://luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/siebel/si104_1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Once again I have learned more about this fascinating aviation world we live in thanks cringe. I was not aware of this aircraft. Keep them coming.

[Saab Dastard]

Here's one to tide the late crew over...
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/Saab-Dastard/Mystery%20Cockpit/Mystery4.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

Ilyushin Il-14. (though it could be a 12 I suppose) - No I'll say 14 'cos it's possibly airworthy and I think there are only 14s still flying.

[surely not]

I am I complete awe of the knowledge you guys have. Where do you get the pictures from, and what reference sources do you use to identifythem?

[JDK]

Speaking personally, a couple of decades travelling the world photographing old aircraft (all of the photos I've posted are from my own efforts) and a large reference library helps support the deductive process of working out what it might be.

Post 1950 era aircraft are beyond me in most cases (certainly airliners) but I'll have a fist at most types before then, but there's been some corkers posted.

Cringe obviously is merely a genius...

I could tell you the deductive process, but then I'd have to...

[PPRuNe Pop]

Saab,

Please take a look at this thread about pic sizes and adjust. Your glasses at the next bash will be half full - or half empty - take your choice.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=191916&page=86


PPP

[Bert Stiles]

In case I'm right
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/219.jpg

[Saab Dastard]

You are, Bert, you are! :ok:

[gas path]

Saab Dastard
Definately the Ilyushin Il-14 :ok: what threw me though was the lack of the 'desk' fans typical of Russian kit!
Like the Sat Nav sitting on the coaming:D

[JDK]

Messerschmitt Bf-110 going by the rudder pedal style...

[Bert Stiles]

Not the 110.

[JDK]

German, though, I reckon.

And not Messerschmitt, but Focke-Wulf - Fw-187...

*EDIT*
Or Fw-154.

Hmmm. I thought I was sure, then I wasn't certain...

[Bert Stiles]

Yes German, (rudder pedals, instrument fixings, etc, etc) but not 187 or 154 - according to my information anyway.

I think there's a big fat clue at the top.

[cringe]

Is it a Henschel Hs 129 ?

[Bert Stiles]

Jawohl.

Mit das sehr dick Panzerglas nicht war?

Alles deine Frau Cringe.

[cringe]

Yes, although the thickness of the windshield frame caught my eye first.

The next challenge might ring a bell for some of you: :)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk24.jpg

[JDK]

Errr... Bell X-1?

[cringe]

Experimental, but not the X-1.

[Bert Stiles]

Is it the Leduc 021 ?

[cringe]

Not a Leduc. Neither French nor American. The cockpit is very cramped.

[Fris B. Fairing]

R&S Desford/Bobsleigh? (Although I can't imagine what it has to do with "bells")

[cringe]

No, but you are closer than the previous two guesses. It isn't British.

As for the initial hint, I thought someone would make a connection with a recent discussion... again, think cramped cockpits. :)

[MReyn24050]

The Ikarus 451?

[cringe]

Spot on, Mel. :ok: It's a museum photo of the Yugoslav Ikarus 451. You have control.

[MReyn24050]

Thank you cringe. Here is another easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz15.jpg

[Conan the Librarian]

The Aerocar?


Conan

[MReyn24050]

You are correct Conan
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/TaylorAerocarN101D.jpg
You have control

[jabberwok]

Eeee.. That must have been interesting to land in crosswinds..

[Conan the Librarian]

Ohmygawd.... Somebody else please leap in with a pic. I am a true amateur in this game and just do it instead of the National Lottery. Over to the first taker!

Conan

[MReyn24050]

Not to worry Conan to keep the thread going I will post another easy one for a Sunday afternoon.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz28.jpg

[foxmoth]

Ryan PT 20?

[MReyn24050]

No sorry not the Ryan PT 20.

[MReyn24050]

Just a hint. Only seven of these aircraft were procured by the then British Purchasing Commission.

[Wunper]

Cierva C.30A autogyro?

W

[MReyn24050]

Warm. These were for the Royal Navy

[Bert Stiles]

Pitcairn PA-39 ?

[Conan the Librarian]

I will have a pop at a Queen Bee

Conan

[jabberwok]

Only seven? That rules out the Curtiss Seamew then..

[MReyn24050]

Bert Stiles
You have it.
It is a photograph of the one and only Pitcairn PA-39 in existance now held in the EAA Museum Oshkosh WI USA. Seven were ordered. Five PA-39s were crated and sent by ship to England (One was retained by Pitcairn-Larsen for further development in anticipation of reorders and one was retained by Wing Commander Brie for service testing from escort ships at Newport News Virginia) only two reached England the others and spare parts for the order having been lost when the ships upon which they had been placed were sunk by German submarines.
Awaiting shipment
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/ag-g12-2.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/PA-39.jpg
Mel

[Bert Stiles]

I reckon it's wunper's really. It's very close to the Cierva originals and it was the history rather than anything in the cockpit that pointed me at the Pitcairn. Interesting details you supplied MReyn.
Try this.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/casa.jpg

[astrocompasser]

It has been fasinating for this non-flying bloke to see all these cockpits.

I would dearly love to see some shots of the Astro Compass and / or the mounting 'Standard' in either the Pilot's or Navigator's position.

Hope someone can come up with the goods !

[jabberwok]

Something like this one?
http://www.pbyrescue.com/Photos/2ERS0000/778.htm

[Bert Stiles]

Isn't that a Mk IX bubble sextant rather than an astro compass ? - Er actually I think it's more like an American pattern sextant than a British Mk IX.

[Bert Stiles]

Sorry Jabbs - I'll get me anorak......

Isn't this the astro compass ? - again US pattern.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/2ERS00786.jpg

[cringe]

Before we return to Bert's mystery cockpit - are these astro compasses?

http://www.maam.org/airshow/images/b25_cockpit_12.jpg

http://www.maam.org/airshow/b25_cockpit.htm

http://www.arctic-mars.org/1999/FIELD99/IMG/cockpitSepiaTone.jpg

http://www.arctic-mars.org/1999/FIELD99/firstAir.html

[Bert Stiles]

Yes Cringe those are astro compasses. Interesting to see one in a B-25. They seem to be into authenticity at Mid Atlantic. Nowadays they're generally used in aeroplanes which venture into areas where Variation is a large, rapidly changing number, and the tracks start to be designated in True - (or Grid I guess) and you align the gyro compass with an astronomical object instead of using magnetism. The DHC-6 installation is an example.

[MReyn24050]

Possibly the Grumman FF-1 or later type such as one of the F2 series?

[Bert Stiles]

Right era... he said helpfully. Not a Grumman.

[MReyn24050]

The instrument panel support structure looks like a Fairey design, however the colour makes me believe it is from the USA. USA?

[Bert Stiles]

Not American. Not British (and not Belgian either).

I may be wrong but I think that structure is a clue.

[LowNSlow]

Would it be a Bucker Jungmeister by any chance?

[MReyn24050]

I will go for the Svenska Aero Jaktfalkken J6A. Fabric covered frame of steel tubing.

[Bert Stiles]

LownNSlow you've got the nationality. Sorry it's not the Jaktfalkken - I'm obliged to look it up though.

[MReyn24050]

I am going to hedge by bets this time, either the Arodo Ar 68 or the Heinkel He51.

[Bert Stiles]

Not a Heinkel and earlier than the Ar.... 68.

[MReyn24050]

Ok I will go for the Arado Ar 64? But then weren't the Arados built by Heinkel, If not the Ar 64 howabout the Fokker D.XIII?

[Bert Stiles]

Arado Ar 65 ..... so 64 is close enough. Maybe 68 was close enough as well but I reckon they're different - so I split hairs.

...65

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/casaa.jpg

Did the logo come before the structure? Or was it the other way round ? Or not connected ?

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/arado.jpg

As far as I can tell the early fighters were built at Warnemunde (sorry no umlauts) and when the company was later nationalised it built other designers' aircraft in addition to the in house stuff. Murky politics - please correct me if I've got it wrong though.

You have control.

[MReyn24050]

Bert
Many thanks, that was a good challenge. As I understand it the only major difference between the 65 and the 64 was that the 65 had a 12 cylinder water cooled engine whereas the 64 had a radial engine. The 65 also had an increased wingspan. The similarity between the logo and structure is interesting and time permitting is worthy of further study.
I am sure you will have no trouble with this one.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz32.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

Is it some sort of Piasecki Helicopter ?

C.

[MReyn24050]

No Clint not Rotary Wing.Think WWII.
Mel

[BSD]

I'll have a go with my first post! How about a Heinkel He 177?

[MReyn24050]

BSD
Well done, welcome to the thread. It was in fact a Heinkel He117A-5/R6 Grief captured by the Maquis along with British and US units during the Allied D-Day landings and flown to RAE Farnborough by Wg Cdr Falk and Sqn Ldr Pearse on 10th September 1944. You have control to publish a challenge.

[BSD]

I'd love to post, but sadly have nothing to contribute. I'll hand control back if I may. The photos that you are all posting are fascinating! I watch in awe. Please keep them coming.

[MReyn24050]

BSD
No problem. Anyone wish to post the next challenge? Please feel free as the floor is open.
Mel

[gas path]

Incoming.:ok: ..............http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/gaspath/cockpit_guess.jpg

[682al]

It's a Dornier 335, but we've already had it.

I think you should have another go?

Regards

[gas path]

Damn..damn..damn..and blast, that's twice one's been caught out:* :* :{
What happened to the list?
note to oneself MUST try harder.....

[gas path]

Another go.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/gaspath/guess_this_then.jpg

[ICT_SLB]

Six across - got to be the Spruce Goose.

[MReyn24050]

Dont think it is the Spruce Goose, however I believe it is the Blohm & Voss Bv 222 "Wiking".

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Bv22220.jpg

[gas path]

Blohm & Voss Bv 222 "Wiking" it is:ok: you have control:D

[MReyn24050]

Thank you gaspath. Now for something a little more modern.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz14a3.jpg

[682al]

Miles Student?

[MReyn24050]

682al
Wow that was quick and there was me thinking it might last at least an hour. Well done you have control.
Mel

[682al]

Thanks Mel, this could be better quality but I don't have much left to offer...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Untitled-5.jpg

[MReyn24050]

From the position and type of compass I take it is British. Therefore from the cockpit framework I believe it to be the De Havilland Don.

[682al]

Sorry, not the Don.

Now if someone has a cockpit photo of the Don, I'd like to see it!

[cringe]

Bristol Buckmaster

[MReyn24050]

Give that lady the prize. Cringe you beat me to it, well done. It is in fact the Bristol Type 166, 112 built as 682al will confirm shortly I am sure.
Mel

[682al]

Yes, and apologies for the delay in confirming it!

[cringe]

Here we go:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk25a.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

Ago Kurier?

[cringe]

Nope, not an Ago Kurier.

[cringe]

Another pic:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk25.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Cringe
Good Morning to you, thanks for the extra photograph it did help to get a better idea of the canopy structure. However still no real idea of the type. Could you please confirm if I am on the right path.
The aircraft concerned is a:-
Twin engined
Retactable main wheels but with a tail wheel.
Possibly late 30s with WWII service.
Light transport.
Possibly German
Mel

[cringe]

Hi Mel,

All your assumptions are correct. :) Bert was close too.

D.

[MReyn24050]

Thank you cringe

In that case I will go for the Gotha Go146 or perhaps the Go150.
Mel

[cringe]

Sorry, not a Gotha.

[Bert Stiles]

I see it now. Fw 58C ?

[cringe]

You got it, Bert. Well done.

[Bert Stiles]

Those are two different airframes. You have access to some wonderous data.

To change the tone which was getting a bit RLM...

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/RE8_cockpit.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Surely you didn't mean that Bert? RE8 or was that to throw us off the scent.

[Bert Stiles]

Just playing... It isn't an RE8.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bert. I thought it looked a little comprehensive for an RE8.

[LowNSlow]

Looks like German WW1 lozenge pattern camoflage to the left of the nose so is it a Fokker DR-1 Eindekker?

PS from the previous page: What's a de Havilland Don?

[682al]

Is it a Vickers Gunbus?

The Don was a pre-war trainer that didn't get very far.

Gipsy King motor, low winged monoplane. About 30 built, I think.

[Saab Dastard]

L&S - wrong control grip for an Eindekker.

There's no MG triggers, but it looks like there is a front cockpit or observer position, so it's either a trainer or the rear cockpit of an observer / bomber type.