What Cockpit ?

[JDK]

Sorry Genghis, the view through the windscreen was a dead give-away. Should have blanked it out, then... ;)


I'm going to guess a Victa Airtourer derivative as well.

With the Horsa, just imagine the view of the crash the PBI* pilots were going to get, with only a layer of ply between it and them. Definitely one of the toughest jobs in aviation:

"Oh, yes, old boy, once you've crash-landed, then you need to start fighting the enemy who will probably be shooting at you already..."

Cheers

*Poor bl@@dy infantry...

[MReyn24050]

I would agree with JDK. The contol column is the give away.

[Vacant Towers]

Correct! Victa Airtourer it is!
Lovingly restored by an engineer with a 160 hp engine and an MT constant speed prop.

(Thanks GG for the trouble you went to, and apology's for my delay in response....it had something to do with sleep!!)

VT

[CamelPilot]

That cockpit on the Airtourer is verysmart. Not like the one I first flew over 37 years ago! G-AVCK. I Wonder whatever happened to that?

[simon niceguy]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit-5.jpg


Can I kick start the thread with an easy one ?

Simon.

[MReyn24050]

Handley Page Hermes?

[simon niceguy]

No not a Hermes.

Simon.

[JDK]

I'd not call it an easy one. Hmmm.

Quite like the "If the big wheel don't work, have a play with the little wheel beside it" extra.

May we have a clue?

[simon niceguy]

The clue I would like to post would give it away straight away so I'll keep that for later.

These were common sights at Heathrow/Gatwick etc. a few years back.
I think there are still some flying today.

Simon.

[cringe]

Ilyushin Il-18

[MReyn24050]

The clever Lady does it again I reckon.

[simon niceguy]

Well done cringe.

The clue I was going to give was 'Think Iron Curtain'

Simon.

[cringe]

I had a hunch that it might be Russian. I'm supposed to be working, so please, someone else go next.

[JDK]

Here's one.
Great view from an unusual performer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/JDK_Mystery_405.jpg

Won't last long, so if you get it, PLEASE have a pic lined up! ;)

[JDK]

Nope. Not a Hurri.

Trust me, if you don't get it after a good look, you'll kick yourself. :E

If you do get it, PLEASE have a pic ready! I'm having to go to my archives soon.

[MReyn24050]

Bristol 138 perhaps. After all it was an unusual perfomer. The gauge to the right of the Artificial Horizon looks like a strange altimeter.

[682al]

Canadian built Lysander

[foxmoth]

I would have thought the ASI goes a bit high for a 'Lizzie

[John Farley]

682al

Not saying you are wrong but the ASI does appear go to over 400 somethings

[John Farley]

Great minds .........etc

[682al]

I remain quietly confident....;)

[Genghis the Engineer]

Out of interest, a quick search shows the records at the time recorded the Bristol 138 and other alititude record attemptees achieving some large and very precisely recorded (http://www.planefacts.co.uk/cards/makers_b_to_f/pages/bristol138_jpg.htm)altitudes back in the 1930s.

Does anybody have any idea how, at the time, altitude was measured such that the claimees felt that they could state such precision? - apparently to the nearest foot !

G

[MReyn24050]

Sealed Barographs were carried in the aircraft during the record attempt or using qualified observers using theodolites or telemeters, provided these instruments have been previously approved by the National Airsports Control. I do not know what method was used by Bristol one would have thought Barographs were used.
These results would then have been submitted to the Federation Aeronautique Internationale for homologation as a world's altitude record. The following link refers http://www.cirrus-rcfk.no/rekorder/sc04c-7.htm

[Saab Dastard]

Boulton Paul Defiant?

[diginagain]

Not sure, but isn't that a firing button on the spade-grip? The BP Defiant's guns were in the turret, c/w own gunner.

[PPRuNe Pop]

I fancy it might be the Typhoon. WW2 vintage of course. Definitely a gun button.

[JDK]

And so you should 682al.

I wonder if 682 was the only one who noticed the "...TLAND" on the toe of the right pedal? :hmm:

I made it a bit harder by turning it monochrome and cropping out the frame of reference, but left in a big chunk of the maker's name, hence my 'you'll kick yourself' remark.

It is V9300 'V9673 / MA-J' of the Imperial War Museum, Duxford. Not, incidentally, a Canadian built Lysander, but it was shipped to Canada from the UK for Canadian use


The Lizze has IMHO, (non-pilot) view one of the most throne-like seats in an aircraft. Wings from behind your ears and a great view in every direction except straight down.

Yours 682

[682al]

It was the ASI that made me plump for a Canadian Lysander, the same pattern as fitted to Canadian built Lancasters, Mosquitos, etc.
The selector switches at left, and the morse key at right were unmistakeable Lysander clues (although Westlands cast into the rudder pedal is a bit of a help, too!)
Here's one to mull over...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Untitled-1g.jpg

[Genghis the Engineer]

Airspeed Courier?

G

[682al]

No, not the Courier.

[brickhistory]

Airspeed Hotspur?

[MReyn24050]

Airspeed AS6 Envoy?

[682al]

Not a product of Airspeed, sorry.

[MReyn24050]

Real stab in the dark, DH 86 (Single Pilot) of which 4 were built.

[682al]

Sorry MReyn24050, it's not from de Havilland.

[MReyn24050]

682al

Thanks not British. Am I right in thinking it might be of US design? Perhaps a Boeing B80?

Mel

[682al]

Not an American type.

[JDK]

Wellesley?

(Although I think it's a bit early a type for these kind of pilot's notes.)

British designed, or pre-war Commonwealth, pilot's notes made 1940 onwards, bomber or transport, 'cos of the wheel, military 6 panel, probably not RNFAA.

Am I warm?

[MReyn24050]

Not British nor American. How about the Fokker 7? Am I mistaken thinking that it is not British?

[682al]

Am I warm?

Warm(ish)

MReyn24050, I didn't say it wasn't British...

[MReyn24050]

682al

Thank you. No I agree, I incorrectly mis-interpreted your statement that it wasn't from De Havilland. Forgive me but when you say "warmish" is that in respect to JDK's comments?

Mel

[JDK]

Warmish?

I'd better try a bit harder then...

Mreyn, I believe only the Brits had whacking great P-2 compasses and that big 6 panel (though Australian and Canadian aircraft can be included in the pre-45 model).

Looks like it's a Brit...

Does anyone know, incidentally, if anyone else had such a compass set up apart from the UK?

[MReyn24050]

JDK
Thanks, one of the beauties of this thread is that one is on a continual learning curve.
However, I am now really clutching at straws, but in for a penny and in for a pound. Possibly the Parnall Heck IIc?

[682al]

Not the Parnall Heck.

JDK has the right idea, British, military, the Pilot's Notes would be dated 1939/40.

I can see a row of selector switchboxes on the right hand wall, suggesting a warload of some sort. The compass looks like a P4 type to me, which was usually installed in larger airframes.

Lovely airy glass house, isn't it?

[diginagain]

On the basis of the last batch of hints, I'll have a stab at Fairey Barracuda.

[682al]

Not the Barracuda. I think that one's already come up in the quiz.

[MReyn24050]

Control Column looks wrong for a Barracuda as the photogrphs I have seen show a spade grip. Possibly a Westland Wallace? It did carry bombs. Those straws are running out.

[MReyn24050]

But then thinking about it, roomy cockpit, lovely airy glasshouse, possibly an early Avro Anson?

[682al]

Not the Wallace, or the Anson.

I was surprised when I came across this photo to see only a single pilot's seat, you'd expect a second pilot's position, too.

[PPRuNe Radar]

Bristol Beaufort ??

[682al]

Sorry, not the Beaufort.

[LowNSlow]

Is it an early Handley-Page Hampden?

[682al]

Not the Hampden, that's already been in the quiz, too.

[MReyn24050]

If not the Bristol Beaufort how about the Bristol Blenheim? No forget that I now recall the Blenheim had completely different control column and layout. Clutching at straws again Vickers Wellington Mk1 or Armstrong Whitworth Whitley?

[PPRuNe Radar]

Thought about the Whitley. Maybe a SARO Lerwick ??

[682al]

Maybe a SARO Lerwick ??

Congrats PPRuNe Radar, Lerwick it is.

Not exactly a success in service and almost forgotten about nowadays. Twenty one built, if I recall correctly.

[BEagle]

Nicknamed the 'Sinking Pig' due to both its porcine appearance and negative climb rate on one engine.

Almost as dreadful as the Blackburn Botha.

[PPRuNe Radar]

A 'Sinking Pig' :)

http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/pictures/jpg/saro%20s36%20lerwick.jpg

and something a little bit faster ..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/heel.jpg

[BEagle]

Which was also somewhat underpowered - although it didn't look it!

[Mr_Grubby]

PPRuNe Radar.

The same pic was posted by BEagle on Sep.29 page 1.
It's the Douglas X-3 Stiletto.

Over 190 cockpits have been posted now and MReyn24050 has done a fantastic breakdown of all the stats on an Excel spreadsheet. We are looking at ways to get it posted on the site.


Clint.

[MReyn24050]

Clint
Thanks. I have not yet come up with a solution of how to get it on the net but if anyone wants a copy please PM me and I will forward it to their email address. I would like to add that cringe has also done a fantastic job in producing a similar sheet. We have exchanged data and verified the results.
682al
I really enjoyed that challenge I must admit I didn't even consider the Lerwick. Keep them coming
Mel

[mfaff]

If its in Excel try converting it to pdf and then into PShop and resaving a jpg....into photobucket adn attach?....

[AppleMacster]

Excel for the Mac enables saving a spreadsheet as html, so I've posted it here:

What Cockpit? List (http://homepage.mac.com/applemacster/Flying/AircraftCockpits.htm)

It needs a bit of tweaking as the html conversion isn't flawless, but you can read all the information.

AppleMacster

[JDK]

Coo. That was a toughie, and I like big boasts.

Thanks for the spreadsheet, chaps.

NEXT! (Otherwise what's Cringe going to ace, incidentally showing us that one girl is better than all the boys?) :D

[Fris B. Fairing]

I hope I haven't taken a liberty here but I have converted Mel's table to a web page and it is temporarily hosted on my site at the link below. If anyone has a problem with this please let me know and I will remove it. Having converted it to HTML I'm hoping that someone will "adopt" it and host it elsewhere in a more official capacity.
http://www.adastron.com/aviation/vault/Aircraft-Cockpits.htm
Cheers

I've just realised that AppleMacster beat me to the punch. I reckon the broth is well and truly spoilt.

[Genghis the Engineer]

Well, I've posted one which I thought was reasonably easy and everybody struggled, and one which I though would take a while and took 4 minutes.

This one I reckon is middlin', so who knows!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/GenghistheEngineer/PPrune%20display%20photos/img003.jpg

G

[PPRuNe Radar]

KC-135 Stratotanker ?? Or one of the many variants ..... E-3, J-8, etc, etc

[Fris B. Fairing]

Boeing KC-135?

[Genghis the Engineer]

13 minutes !

I still need to try harder.

G

[PPRuNe Radar]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/panel.jpg

[PPRuNe Pop]

Sea Hawk..........

[DCDriver]

Naval type...Supermarine Attacker?

[PPRuNe Radar]

None of those gents ... sorry !!!

PS the top of the joystick is missing in this example. I can post a pic of another cockpit with it if it gets too hard :ok:

[DCDriver]

well its not a Meteor is it?

[PPRuNe Radar]

Not a Meteor, no.

[Genghis the Engineer]

Gloster Javelin FAW9.

G

[PPRuNe Radar]

Your go Genghis :ok:

[Genghis the Engineer]

I'll see what I can do - but please satisfy my curiosity, what's the aeroplane behind it?

G

[Genghis the Engineer]

Okay, I'm sure this'll be gone by breakfast, but as it's about top of my personal list of things I wish I'd flown, and I'm certain even John.F hasn't got it in his logbook....

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/GenghistheEngineer/PPrune%20display%20photos/img006.jpg

[Conan the Librarian]

'tis the Shuttle I think, but possibly the Lunar Module from the Apollo Programme. Nope. It is the Lunar Module. If I am right, somebody else please post, as I might be AWOL for a few hours early tomorrow morning. If I am wrong, then let the Earth open beneath my feet...

Conan

[PPRuNe Radar]

Genghis, the one in the background looks like a FRADU Canberra. Most likely WK126, a TT18 coded 843 (although it could also be the one coded 853 which has long since been scrapped).

http://www.fradu-hunters.co.uk/canberra/images/wk126sae.jpg

[Genghis the Engineer]

'tis the Shuttle I think, but possibly the Lunar Module from the Apollo Programme. Nope. It is the Lunar Module. If I am right, somebody else please post, as I might be AWOL for a few hours early tomorrow morning. If I am wrong, then let the Earth open beneath my feet...

Conan

Hedging your bets there!

Yes, it's the Apollo lunar landing module.

G

[MReyn24050]

As Conan is AWOL, his words not mine, please find a nice easy one.It is a rear panel.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit8.jpg[/IMG]

[JDK]

North American T-28 Tedious?

[Fris B. Fairing]

Beech T-34C?

[MReyn24050]

Well done Fris B Fairing Beech T-34C belonging to NASA at Dryden it is. You have control.

Mel

[Fris B. Fairing]

And that was after trying unsuccessfully to read the Bu No on the panel!
I've nothing ready to go if anyone wants to take my turn.

[JDK]

As an unsuccessful aspirant I've got something to hand. ;)

Apologies if anyone else was nearly ready...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/010_11JDK.jpg

The pilot's seat is slightly more suitable in the fully restored version.

[Genghis the Engineer]

de Havilland Dragonfly?

G

[LowNSlow]

Beech Staggerwing?

[JDK]

No

And Ah, no.

Wrong countries too. :E

[MReyn24050]

Noorduyn Norseman I believe.

[JDK]

Good man.

Under restoration in Sydney BC. www.bcam.net - a very impressive volunteer museum.

I have counted, and I am well in excess of challenges over correct answers. I will recede into the sofa while other more worthy posters take this forward. Should I guess correctly, however...

[MReyn24050]

Well JDK I do not think you will have much trouble with this one. I really must get my scanner working.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit10.jpg[/IMG]

[LowNSlow]

Is it one of Gaspodin Yakolev's Model 50s?

[Tim Inder]

MiG 15? - might even be a MiG 15-Bis! (I only put that bit in to make up the minimum character limit!)

[MReyn24050]

No it as not one of Gaspodin Yakolev's Model 50s neither is it a MIG 15.

[Tim Inder]

Is it a MiG 17 then?

[MReyn24050]

It certainly is Tim. You have control.

[Tim Inder]

I have control...
Here goes:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/timinder/cockpit11-1-06.jpg

[DCDriver]

F102 Delta dagger?

[Tim Inder]

Nope, sorry!

[Conan the Librarian]

F-106 Delta Dart. Something with a V screen anyway...


Conan

[Tim Inder]

Not F106 I'm afraid, bt it does have a sort of'v' screen (ish!)

[Conan the Librarian]

Convair XF-92A

Conan

[Mr_Grubby]

F-9 Panther

Clint.

[cringe]

Bell X-2 ?

[MReyn24050]

I think once again the Lady has beaten us to it.

[Tim Inder]

Indeed she has! well done again :)

[cringe]

Thanks, it was just luck. I came across the X-2 some time ago and bookmarked it for "future use". :)

Can we try this one next?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk21.jpg

[foxmoth]

Ford "Trimotor"

[185skywagon]

Or a Fokker FVI-II-3m.

[cringe]

Nope, neither is correct.

[CoodaShooda]

Savoia Marchetti SM-79?
well its got three engines.............:8

[cringe]

Sorry for the delay. No, not a SM-79 either. This one wasn't built in large numbers.

[MReyn24050]

Possibly the Rohrbach Roland VIII?

[cringe]

Sorry, no, though it is European.

[MReyn24050]

European and not built in large numbers. How about the Westland Wessex originating from the Westland IV. Only 8 Westland Wessex built?

[cringe]

Neither British nor German. The type wasn't very successful.

[MReyn24050]

Clutching at those straws again. How about the Potez 40 only one example built for the French Colonial Police? This was an aircraft fitted with three Salmson engines.

[cringe]

Correct country, different manufacturer.

[MReyn24050]

Two possibles however I can find little information, perhaps either the Loire 70 or 102 both I believe were each powered bu three engines.

[cringe]

There must be others. :) This one wasn't a flying boat.

[ORAC]

Bloch 120?

[cringe]

Not a Bloch.

[Bert Stiles]

Couzinet 33 or 71 ?

BS.

[MReyn24050]

Breguet Bre 393T, Transport 10 Passengers, 3 Gnome & Rhone Engines only 6 built for Air France or perhaps the Deweoitine 620 also a tri-motor aircraft but only one was built in 1938.

[cringe]

Bert got it right. It was the Couzinet 70 (Arc en Ciel III) mail plane. One example built.

http://remb.free.fr/Images/arc_en_ciel.jpg

Your turn, Bert.

[Bert Stiles]

Ms C, you're track record points to the one off variety of aeroplane. "And Eric being such a 'appy cat - was a piece a cake"

Free for all - I havn't got a shoppingbucket.

[MReyn24050]

Just a guess from the shape. Aeronca 100? But then it doesnt look simple enough.

[JDK]

North American Harvard / SNJ family

[Saab Dastard]

Link trainer?

[asw28-866]

Stab in the dark.....Comper Swift?

[MReyn24050]

DH Tiger Moth?

[cringe]

I think JDK gets full points. North American AT-6C Harvard IIA NZ1034:

http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/raaf2/assets/images/e34.jpg

http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/raaf2/html/at-6c.htm

[TD&H]

Cringe: Mike Jenvey says not 'merican! So must be Canadian version, which a Harvard II is anyway methinks! So not quite a North American AT-6C.

Judging by your repute I would have thought you'd have spotted that minor point and;) that MJ included

Anyway you're far better than I could ever hope to be at this game

[cringe]

TD&H, for a moment I thought that something like that might be the case, but didn't take time to check further, assuming that the museum website would give a correct name.

[TD&H]

Cringe, I guess we'll just have to leave it to MJ to confirm just how pernickety (spelling???) he is. Certainly know that my standard of cockpit identification normally stumbles at recognising an aeroplane from a helicopter:ok:

[foxmoth]

And I thought you said "think basic":confused: !?

[Tim Inder]

Aye- as in 'basic trainer'

[MReyn24050]

Sorry to jump the gun but to keep things moving another easy one to go on with until Cringe/JDK come up with one.
Mel

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpit11.jpg[/IMG]

[Bert Stiles]

Junkers F13 by any chance ?

[MReyn24050]

Correct Sir. It is a Junkers F13, I guess the corrugations were a bit of a give away.

[JDK]

I have a couple of pix to hand, but I think it's Cringe or MReyn's call...

[cringe]

Go ahead JDK, it was you who first identified the Harvard.

[JDK]

OK, always happy to oblige a powerful lady.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/Mystery200JDK.jpg

[Genghis the Engineer]

Nice logbook cover on the coaming, is that yours?


A model MiG-15?

G

[foxmoth]

Hunter? No idea of mark.

[MReyn24050]

Grumman F9F-6 Cougar perhaps?

[JDK]

Not my logbook (I'm not a pilot) but if you could see the cover properly you'd see the logo of the museum...

Not Russian, American or British, but it IS a jet. :E

[Bre901]

Dassault Mystère IV, peut-être ?
Or maybe the Ouragan by the same manufacturer ?

[JDK]

Mais non, mes ami.

I will abandon the Ullo Ullo accent. (Phew) The designer was from one country working in another, neither of which have been mentioned yet.

I will add that it is a real, airworthy warbird.

[brickhistory]

IDF/AF Ouragon?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Missed the Ouragon mention 2 above, the immediately above was posted simultaneously as my post. Apologies......

[JDK]

It's amazing how many countries there are in Europe.

No.

[Conan the Librarian]

Saab Lanssen?

Conan

[spitfire]

HA-200 Saeta or HA-220 Super Saeta

[Ignition Override]

The photo is not a C-46 Commando, but that is a reasonable guess.

Once, I visited a C-46 c0ckp1t and have seen outlines of how many engine controls are on the center pedestal, contained in one of my books about flying "the HVMP" (Burma and Himalayas).

What really surprised me was a visit to the c0ckp1t of a working B-24 several months ago (the ship is owned by the Collins Foundation). That large four-engine bomber had almost no gauges and switches for the various systems, except for the engines! :confused: It was really strange. The "Bandit" (Emb-110) and Shorts 330/360 which I flew have many more than the old WW2 aircraft.

[JDK]

A Spanish aircraft designed by the German Willi Messerschmitt. Despite your indecision over the -200, you have control, Spitfire.

Ignition Overide - are you responding to post No.1? There's been 1,400 odd since then, old bean!

[spitfire]

Here's a true work of art.
http://x12.putfile.com/1/1410520735.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

Some sort of home built twin engined Bede ???

Clint.

[spitfire]

Not a homebuilt, but yes, it's a twin.

[JDK]

The Bugatti Racer. Now in Spitfire's 'hometown'!

[spitfire]

Correct - you have the floor JDK!

[JDK]

Here's one.

Nice 'plane. Rare. Airworthy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/JDK_Myster2001.jpg

[682al]

Tipsy Trainer?

[tipsy2]

I will NOT be trained:ok:

tipsy

[JDK]

Nor does your cockpit look like that. I thought it would be easy, but...

A clue. British (very) but not in Britain today.

[foxmoth]

Miles of some sort?

[cringe]

Miles M.3C Falcon Six in Spain

[JDK]

Yours, Cringe...

[cringe]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk20.jpg

[jabberwok]

Is it French?

[cringe]

No, not French. It wasn't rare in its time.

[Genghis the Engineer]

Savoia-Marchetti S79 ?

G

[cringe]

The well-known Italian bomber it is. :ok: Some 1300 were built, including two-engined variants. Your go, Genghis.

[Bert Stiles]

At the risk of going off at a tangent. I had no idea that there were SM 79 twins produced. By a bit of googling I found the SM 79B/JR export versions - Brazil, Iraq, Romania and Romanian homegrown.

Identifying a twin engined SM 79 cockpit would be even trickier than the average subject on here. Can anyone conjure one up ? - Cringe - ? Without photoshop I mean.

[Genghis the Engineer]

The well-known Italian bomber it is. :ok: Some 1300 were built, including two-engined variants. Your go, Genghis.

Gosh I'm getting better at this game! Here you go,

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/GenghistheEngineer/PPrune%20display%20photos/cockpit.jpg

G

[Wunper]

Supermarine Southampton?
W

[Genghis the Engineer]

Not even close I'm afraid.

G

[Saab Dastard]

DH Comet Racer?

It looks like a twin from the throttle quadrant, anyway.

[AppleMacster]

I've updated the list up to and including yesterday. :8 It's still available at the same web address:
Aircraft Cockpits (http://homepage.mac.com/applemacster/Flying/AircraftCockpits.htm)

AppleMacster

[Genghis the Engineer]

Not a dH, yes a twin.

G

[foxmoth]

Does not look British, though I could be mistaken. Also looks like single seat with throttles on the right which seems strange.

[JDK]

Northrop N9M at the Planes of Fame?

[Genghis the Engineer]

Getting warmer.

G

[JDK]

Horten thingy... :D

[Genghis the Engineer]

Thingy definitely, Horten no.

G

[JDK]

One outa two ain't bad. Pity it was the guaranteed easy bit...

Gotha Go.229. Or am I in the wrong country?

[Genghis the Engineer]

The Gotha 229 was of-course also known as the Horten IX (and is the wrong answer).

And it's not German.

G

[JDK]

Hah. For the first time I do a websearch for the right maker & 'cockpit'

I wasn't warm, I was about to get burnt. :eek:

Northrop N-1M "Jeep".

I found the same website Genghis... :E

[Genghis the Engineer]

Took you long enough!

Well done, your go.

G

http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/xplane/n1m-i.jpg

[JDK]

Took you long enough!
Cheek.

OK, here's a lovely little historic survivor.

Extra points for the reg and what the reg stands for and what colour jacket the crew ought to wear...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/JDK_Mystery2billion.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

Grumman G21A, Canada Aviation Museum, Scarlet serge, stetson, Sam Browne, Navy blue strides with yellow-gold strapping ?

Free for all. (yes I know)

[Bert Stiles]

Where's the edit button gone ?

CF-MPG - Mounted Police Grumman - just a guess.

[Bert Stiles]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/01.jpg

??????????

[forget]

Heinkel 111

[gas path]

Mr. Junkers Ju388

[Bert Stiles]

Quite -

I'm glad - forget - was kind enough to get it wrong. I'll view the expanded version next time - didn't pick it up on the thumbnail.

Gas Path has control. Unless JDK says otherwise.

[gas path]

Try this for sizehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/gaspath/trythis.jpg
I'm off down the pub now, I expect this sorted by the time i get back:ok:

[Bert Stiles]

Oi - before you go down the boozer - we've already had that. Posted on Oct 25th - answer on p23. Your round again ?

[JDK]

I'm a little late, but Bert's quite right. Scarily so. Well done that man.

[gas path]

Damn hic I will 'ave another go! I was beginning to wonder when theyr'd come around again :hmm: My excuse is I had it down as the YB-49:confused:
This one then???http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/gaspath/ok_this_then.jpg

[JDK]

Stampe!

Stampe & Vertongen SV 4.

Rudder pedals...

[spitfire]

Stampe SV4-b

[spitfire]

damn...pipped at the post!

[gas path]

Stampe it is!
JDK you have control:ok:
note to oneself.....must look at the picture more closely and edit out thr give aways.:ok:

[JDK]

Thanks GP,
Those little clues... :suspect: I actually guess 'Stampe' from the bits of the screen, then wondered about Jungmann etc, then saw the SV on the pedals, and the penny got stuck as I couldn't remember Stampe's full company name, then I unjammed the penny!

I didn't realise how many cockpit shots I've taken over the years!

Extra points for what's about to become special about this particular aircraft...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/JDK_Mystery08.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Curtiss P-40E Kittyhawk A29-133, “Polly”, on display in Bradbury Aircraft Hall, Australian War Memorial. Perhaps?

[JDK]

Very comprehensively...



...wrong.

Sorry!

[Bert Stiles]

FM-2, F4F - whathaveyou. A Wildcat ? Which one I don't know - why special ? - don't know. Gis a clue.

[MReyn24050]

Perhaps the Pilatus P2 a/c currently in the UK with a British registration and is offered for sale with a new Permit to fly, the permit works being carried out by the Aircraft Restoration company at Duxford, Cambs?

[JDK]

Bert is correct.

It is Grumman Martlet I (F4F-3) AL246 in the Fleet Air Arm Museum. It was diverted to Britain from a French order and is the oldest of the family extant.

It is the next project for the Fleet Air Arm 'archaeology' project, a unique venture in aviation museum work - see here for the previous effort. http://www.fleetairarm.com/exhibits/planes.asp?plane=153

You have control Bert!

[Bert Stiles]

Sort of knew about the Yeovilton project but didn't know the Martlet was in for the same deal. Thought it might be an age thing but there weren't any anniversaries that I could find.

Easy one for the backshift.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/MGC1/pzl.jpg

[682al]

Polikarpov I-16, presumably one of the half dozen rebuilds from a few years ago.

[Bert Stiles]

Affirm,

You have control.

[682al]

Thanks Bert, just time to launch this before turning in for the night...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Untitled-3.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

Planet Satellite?

I have no evidence to back that.

[682al]

I can see where you're coming from, but no, not the Planet Satellite.

[682al]

Not the Mercury, sorry.

[mfaff]

Aero 45? or C-3?

[gas path]

Hows about Mr. Igor Sikorskys' LeGrand?

[682al]

Neither of the above suggestions.

[jabberwok]

It looks like those huge steering wheels would take your knuckles off against the cockpit wall...

Sparse instrumentation and I'd guess 1930's design.. Is it a glider or airship?

[Bert Stiles]

Groping around memories as I can't find photographs. Short Mussel ?

Wheels do seem out of proportion to cockpit.

[682al]

It's a glider and the lever on the cockpit wall is a clue, as is the compass on the floor. Both were pretty standard "fit" in aircraft of this era and origin.

[Mr_Grubby]

Is it German ??

Clint.

[Bert Stiles]

Is it a Hotspur ?

[Conan the Librarian]

Me 323 of the non engined variety

Conan

[MReyn24050]

Perhaps the Go 242A or later Mk of the 242?

[Bert Stiles]

Oh alright, Hengist then.

[foxmoth]

How about the Hamilcar?

[682al]

Gotha, Hamilcar, Hotspur....? All too easy!
Bert gets it right again with the Slingsby Hengist. Another obscure wartime British type, this time an assault glider with a capacity for eighteen troops.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/slingsbyhengistI.jpg

[Bert Stiles]

That was instructive. Drove me mental. Very good archive you have access to 682.

It took me 4 shots - so somebody else deserves a go. BMG.

[Mr_Grubby]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit-6.jpg


I'll kickstart the thread. Sundays are always slow !!

Clint.

[cringe]

Valentin Taifun 17E

[Mr_Grubby]

cringe you're too good !!!

Clint.

[cringe]

Thanks. Nah, I'm just lucky. Happy to learn from numerous far more knowledgeable posters.

Last in the trimotor trilogy: :)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk19.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Another Tri-motor! Fokker F7b perhaps?

[cringe]

Sorry, not a Fokker.

[forget]

Junkers AB Flygindustri K30 - perchance?

[cringe]

Not a Junkers product either.

[forget]

Process of elimination here. Short Calcutta?

[foxmoth]

Mr Fords attempt?

[cringe]

Neither a Short nor a Ford.

[JDK]

Stinson Trimotor?

[cringe]

No, not a Stinson. Wrong countries so far.

[JDK]

Well it isn't a 'Boeing Tri-Motor'...

But see here (down the page) http://www.cargolaw.com/2005nightmare_tri-motor.html

I KNOW I'm going to be kicking myself...

European or N. American design?

[cringe]

European design.

[forget]

Armstrong Whitworth Argosy.

[cringe]

Didn't the AW Argosy have four engines? This one is not British. There were two design versions of the type.