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Mr_Grubby
28th Sep 2005, 15:24
Can anyone identify this cockpit ?
I think it's a twin.

Clint.


http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/est_for_Clinton.jpg

jabberwok
28th Sep 2005, 16:06
It's the new 1930's retro fit for the A320.. :)

treadigraph
28th Sep 2005, 16:13
With all that glazing might be an IL-12 or 14? Top me head...

Tiger_mate
28th Sep 2005, 20:32
Modern IFR suite including a GPS in the centre. WWII appearance otherwise, and twin throttles would suggest DC3 type aeroplane. Very curved superstructure around the glazing, and gut feeling that its a taildragger. Lower glazing unusual.
My guess is that it is a:

http://www.imcat.com/images/alaska/CD2_C46_10.jpg
C46 Commando.

PS

http://www.rcgroups.com/articles/ezonemag/2003/apr/pitch/confed-c46-cockpit.jpg

Now I am sure it is!:ok:

treadigraph
28th Sep 2005, 21:57
Ooh, good spot TM! This could be a good new competition!

Tiger_mate
29th Sep 2005, 06:22
My turn then:O

Whats this one folks?
http://www.artistic.flyer.co.uk/nocheating.jpg
You can cheat if you give up with right click and "properties", but that just wouldnt be british now would it?

AL1 New pic, same cab, no clues

treadigraph
29th Sep 2005, 06:27
Without cheating I was going to suggest a Catalina... but now I'm angling towards Mosquito?

Fris B. Fairing
29th Sep 2005, 06:38
Anson?

Fifteen more characters.

CoodaShooda
29th Sep 2005, 07:10
The glazed nose and wooden trim certainly suggests Mosquito

Mr_Grubby
29th Sep 2005, 07:27
Tiger mate.

Re: C46
Thanks very much. You won me a pint !!

Clint.

Feather #3
29th Sep 2005, 08:27
My shot at #2 is Bolingbroke [Blenhiem IV].

G'day ;)

Gainesy
29th Sep 2005, 08:59
Tiger Mate, bit tricky as the pic won't load so can you give me a vowel?:confused: :)

Fris B. Fairing
29th Sep 2005, 09:05
Can I change my answer?

It's obviously a Nocheating.

Tiger_mate
29th Sep 2005, 11:19
Taken through the entrance door of a Mosquito at the Mosquito Air Museum, I reckon that its over to: treadigraph for the next one.

Well done CoodaShooda, but treaders got there first. I can see this thread getting >very< difficult very soon.

BEagle
29th Sep 2005, 11:38
Here's one while you're waiting:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/cockpit.jpg

treadigraph
29th Sep 2005, 12:54
Oh, good guess...

Bu@@er, can't see BEagle's (is it a Pup or a Basset - or a Vulcan!) - I'll be able to when I get home.

In the meantime I'll suss out a pic that's somewhere in my archive.

Bert Stiles
29th Sep 2005, 13:46
P-38 J model ????

BS

Tim Inder
29th Sep 2005, 13:57
Hmmm, don't think it's a P-38 (first oneI thought of too) 'cos the control column comes out otf the floor in those...

Vulcan - nope - joystick instead of a yoke

Grumman f7f Tigercat?

Jhieminga
29th Sep 2005, 13:59
The Mosquito wasn't too hard, I've taken that exact same photograph recently. No clue about BEagle's photo though. It suggests something military and not too old, but I truly don't know.

forget
29th Sep 2005, 14:55
Wrong fuselage colour for Tigercat, which would be dark blue US Navy.

Peter Barron
29th Sep 2005, 15:22
BEagle.

Is it a Beaufighter.

Peter.

BEagle
29th Sep 2005, 16:15
Nope.

It was American, had 2 engines, but no props!

Not still flying.

Biggles Flies Undone
29th Sep 2005, 16:28
F-101A?

BEagle
29th Sep 2005, 16:37
Nope!

Construction was approved in 1949.

Tiger_mate
29th Sep 2005, 16:40
With all those engine instruments a B47 Stratojet or B58 Hustler?

The Hustler was launched in 1949

BEagle
29th Sep 2005, 16:55
Neither, sorry!

As I said, it had but 2 engines. Whereas the B-47 had 6 and the B-58 had 4!

Tiger_mate
29th Sep 2005, 17:27
He shoots...............he Scores:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/modern_flight/x3cp.jpg

Douglas X-3 Stiletto

http://www.eichhorn.ws/assets/images/douglas_x3_stiletto.jpg

BEagle
29th Sep 2005, 17:28
One of the words in your answer was correct, Mike. But not one of the types you mention!

A clue - think B over A !

Edit- Well done, tiger_mate!

Tiger_mate
29th Sep 2005, 17:34
Try this one:http://www.artistic.flyer.co.uk/dontcheat.jpg

JDK
30th Sep 2005, 01:24
Douglas A-20 family. (Boston / Havoc)

But it doesn't have the armoured glass.

S'funny I was cleaning one a month ago. ;)

JDK
30th Sep 2005, 03:30
It's the Douglas A-20G in the USAF Museum, Dayton, Ohio.

It's a photo from 'Cockpit' by Donald Nijboer - his photogaphic style is very distinctive, so I went and check my copy!

The armoured glass normally fitted on most of the types (USAF A-20G, Australian Bostons, RAF Bostons) is missing here, though the upper attachement is visible. It's not a minor thing, being a lump of four or five laminates of thick glass!

It's also missing the Douglas badge ("Douglas, First around the world") from the centre of the control wheel.

I admit to having been undertaking intensive study on the type, ;) and sitting in the pilot's seat to clean the windows of the RAAF Museum's Boston 'Jessica'. :D

Brave men.

Tiger_mate
30th Sep 2005, 05:59
Doh........thought that one would last a little longer. Well done, over to you :ok:

JDK
30th Sep 2005, 08:12
:p I admit to probably being the most recent occupant of a Boston cockpit worldwide - real inside knowledge! ;)

OK, here's a pic of 'Jessica's' cockpit as a comparison.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/BostonCockpit.jpg

The quiz is a two seat trainer under restoration.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Mystery01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Mystery02.jpg

I took the photos only a few weeks ago, and it's due to fly in December (probably...)

It's rare - very rare. It's serial numbers are in single digits.

The panels, though missing instruments are complete enough to give clues as to the country of origin, and are all correct, I'm told, apart from the 'g-meter' and modern radio which are modern additions. On the lower right, there's a little lever in a slot which reads 'Autoslots - Open - Free'.

That's enough clues, and it's meant to be hard. :E

Tiger_mate
30th Sep 2005, 11:18
CAC Wackett trainer?

JDK
30th Sep 2005, 11:49
Right area,

Wrong type. :D This is rarer than a Wackett...

BEagle
30th Sep 2005, 12:24
Avro type 643 Cadet A6-32?

JDK
30th Sep 2005, 13:13
BEagle,

One of your clever clogs isn't. :p

You can have a point for correctly identifying the type (well done! your go! ) but for being a smart alec, you have to get the serial number right now: I said "single digits" so it's A6-?

Tiger_mate
30th Sep 2005, 13:37
Well done Beags, but as you hijacked treadigraph
yesterday, it should be his go now :O

treadigraph
30th Sep 2005, 13:40
Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can find the pic of... but that would spoil the surprise...

Right here you go...

http://www.tpsconsult.co.uk/dump/images/cockpit.jpg

I'll try to look in again before I go to the pub after work - thereafter I might be a bit squiffy...

BEagle
30th Sep 2005, 13:56
Sorry, JDK, it must be the other one! A 6-8?

simon niceguy
30th Sep 2005, 16:31
I know I am a bit out of my depth with you guys !!

But is it a Chipmonk ?


Simon.

treadigraph
30th Sep 2005, 16:33
Not a Chipmunk...

Peter Barron
30th Sep 2005, 16:46
treadigraph.

Could it be the AN-225 :D

Well I only asked, not very good on Cockpits :{

Peter.

treadigraph
1st Oct 2005, 00:03
Keep guessing - if no luck soon I'll give you some hints, but it is quite tricky. Lomcevak might get it as he may have flown the beast in question...

JDK
1st Oct 2005, 00:19
Beags,
Yes A6-8. As Homes might say, "Your reasoning was excellent, Watson, but flawed." :P

Lovely aeroplane, lovely restoration under the kindly hands of Mothcair in Murwillumbah, NSW. It'll be a stunner to see in the air.

Treadders - is it a Percival?

treadigraph
1st Oct 2005, 00:23
Nah - OK Hint. It's a reproduction (but not a replica )...

JDK, I need to PM you about a certain Warlike Planet... Will do so when I've slept off my convivial intake. Hic!

JDK
1st Oct 2005, 12:47
Hmmm.

I'm wracking the old brainbox.

It's not foren, cos there's an English plackard. Probably one engine, not military, 1930s - maybe 20s.. Def piston engined, retractable undercarriage, not a Percival.

Oh, and it's 10 past 1 am, cos it's dark outside...

Not many British aircraft in the thirties with a low or mid wing with wheels that go up n' dahn.

It's not the US built DH-88 Comet replica is it? Looks different to the 'real' G-ACSS if 'tis.

Sure, drop me a PM Treadders.

Not a Caudron repro? (But the english plackard...)

Windcreen\'s wrong for a Comet.

Miles?

treadigraph
1st Oct 2005, 16:33
OK hints:

It's American and has a radial engine.

Sorry been out all day and about to hurtle off again.

BEagle
1st Oct 2005, 17:14
Grumman F3F in its two-seat G32A version, perchance?

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/f3fsb_16.jpg shows a similar cockpit view.

See http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow01/legends/f3f.htm for an external view of the F3F2 single seater or http://www.plane-crazy.net/links/g32.htm for both types together.

treadigraph
2nd Oct 2005, 09:13
Well done BEagle, you have control!

Chino Warbird's N100TF when it and one of the single-seaters was in the UK for Flying Legends show several years ago. Lovely little aeroplanes!

Cheers

Treadders

BEagle
2nd Oct 2005, 15:52
Always thought the Grumman flying barrels looked nice!

OK, try:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/jjjj.jpg

jimgriff
2nd Oct 2005, 20:42
That has to be a TSR 2?

BEagle
2nd Oct 2005, 21:42
Well done - hole in one! You have the helm.

JDK
3rd Oct 2005, 01:47
Good one Treadders - great photo too. I presume you erased the callsign plackard?

Ooh. Fast as a TSR-2 too. More please.

treadigraph
3rd Oct 2005, 07:13
I did, and a reflection out of the windscreen as well - then noticed another one. I should credit the pic to Barry McKee!

jimgriff
3rd Oct 2005, 11:45
Woohoo!!!

It was the colour and the position of the Manual Overide handle on the bang seat (Mk8) that gave it away.....

Now then...where did I put my cockpit picis?:E

Tiger_mate
6th Oct 2005, 17:29
Anybody else want to have a go?

twas good while it lasted.

Onan the Clumsy
7th Oct 2005, 03:56
Ok an easy one for you all, so easy in fact that you have to get not only manufacturer and model, but also the year (hint: not 2005 :} )

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/onan_the_clumsy/cockpit.jpg


She's a grand old girl too :ok:

LowNSlow
7th Oct 2005, 06:25
Cessna 170 - 1950???

Tiger_mate
7th Oct 2005, 09:43
"Ok an easy one for you all"

Has anybody else ever noticed that when somebody says that you know the impossible is inbound.

Dont know the type, but I estimate the twentieth century:O

forget
7th Oct 2005, 10:58
Is the word 'Beechcraft' on the AH a clue?

Onan the Clumsy
7th Oct 2005, 12:15
No, yes and no.

Perhaps "easy" is the wrong word and I should have said "far from exotic" or perhaps fairly common airframe.


btw, the AH was a rebuilt as the old one used to show a permanent 70 degrees of bank :}

treadigraph
7th Oct 2005, 12:47
It may be easy for you but I can't even see it - thank you IT Services! By the time I shamble home from le Chien et He-Vache, no doubt it will have been solv-ed!

Woomera
7th Oct 2005, 13:38
95 Kts, 6.700 AGL (check the second ALT!!), HDG 061, 2,400 RPM - I suppose you want to know where that Cessna 140 is also headed?

Woomera

Onan the Clumsy
7th Oct 2005, 23:10
Well spotted and that explains why the mags are on :8



Look again...it couldn't possibly be a 140 :rolleyes:

;)


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/onan_the_clumsy/cockpit.jpg

...though you may well have the manufacturer correct :ok:

CoodaShooda
8th Oct 2005, 02:36
Cessna 180? 1960's vintage

Onan the Clumsy
8th Oct 2005, 03:01
Very very close.

It's a Cessna with a controllable prop and having two altimeters AND being ragged out is a big clue.









Ok it's a straight tailed 1959 C-182 jumpers for the use of.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/onan_the_clumsy/grover001.jpg

RJM
8th Oct 2005, 03:20
Here you go:

http://tinypic.com/ebajh3.jpg

gruntie
8th Oct 2005, 06:45
Arado Ar 234 Blitz................the one at the NASM.

RJM
8th Oct 2005, 07:15
Trifecta! Make, model and the individual aircraft.

Arado 234 'Blitz' one-man jet bomber c1945.

gruntie
8th Oct 2005, 11:32
Now two out of three should be a doddle:


http://tinypic.com/ebeihy.jpg


1) Type
2) Registration
3) Name of FO...............

(Sorry about the size, haven't figured that bit out yet)

forget
8th Oct 2005, 12:01
Vickers..................errrrm

treadigraph
8th Oct 2005, 12:05
The Vanguard at Brooklands? G-APE... Miss Gruntie? (Sorry, hat sounds a bit unfortunate, but you know what I mean!)

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 12:23
Vickers VC10
A40-AB
Ebeihy?

RJM
8th Oct 2005, 13:27
Gruntie re pic sizing - someone put me onto http://tinypic.com/
(I hope I can mention them here - tinypic is a free site)
Anything oversize is automatically sized down to 250Kb, as long as the pic starts at a reasonable size - for example if I had a multi Mb image I would use Photoshop or Graphic Converter or whatever to resize it down a bit for a start, then let tinypic do any tidying up.

I haven't a clue what the aircraft is btw, other than it is either a gateguard or was parked very close to those trees. :D

gruntie
8th Oct 2005, 13:27
Well done that man, 'tis indeed A40-AB, ex-G-ASIX of BUA. The FO I'll let you off!

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 13:54
How about:


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/8Oct.jpg

Mr_Grubby
8th Oct 2005, 14:35
Convair B 36 Peacemaker ??

RJM
8th Oct 2005, 14:38
Is it a Beriev 2500?

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 14:51
No to both - sorry!

henry crun
8th Oct 2005, 14:55
North American XB70 ?

forget
8th Oct 2005, 15:05
Boeing XB-70 Valkyrie.

Henry beat me to it!

RJM
8th Oct 2005, 15:10
How about an Antonov 225?

edit - err, the special 'Valkyrie' model?

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 15:31
Correct, henry!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/xb-70_lastflight.jpg

Seen here on its last flight - only 10 years after the last flight of the B-36!

Gainesy
8th Oct 2005, 15:51
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Gainesy/cockpit.jpg

jumpseater
8th Oct 2005, 15:56
Is it a Catalina?

Gainesy
8th Oct 2005, 16:00
No, not a Cat.

Hmm, did I break any protocol as I did not win the last one? Sorry if so.

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 16:03
Grumman HU-16 Albatross!

Gainesy
8th Oct 2005, 16:09
Spot on BEags, leave all that mucky engine handling stuff to the Chief Stoker, eh?

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 16:17
I guessed it was an amphibian, as it probably had overhead throttles. A quick Google and that was it!

OK -

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/c2.jpg

forget
8th Oct 2005, 16:50
US built, tandem seat, twin engined fighter, late 50's early 60' vintage - but I think we'll need more than that :confused:

RJM
8th Oct 2005, 17:17
...not very wide, lot of dials...hmm :8

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 18:03
Not American,

Not tandem seating,

....but otherwise not far off the mark!

Mr_Grubby
8th Oct 2005, 18:36
Sea Vixen maybe?


Clint

forget
8th Oct 2005, 18:39
Javelin - no tandem seating??

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 19:32
One of you is correct. But more confidence or proof is needed!

Mr_Grubby
8th Oct 2005, 19:48
BEags.

I have consulted my 'Boys Bumper Book of Twin Engined Jet Planes circa 1950/60'
and am confident to claim a Sea Vixen !


Clint.

forget
8th Oct 2005, 19:56
I'll concede - DE HAVILLAND SEA VIXEN:ok:

If I'd taken more notice of the Attitude Indicator in the first place I'd have said Brit rather than US. Definitely a Smiths job.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/xj572sideview.gif

BEagle
8th Oct 2005, 20:11
Yes - 'tis indeed the mighty 'Vixen!

Over to you, Mr_G!

Mr_Grubby
8th Oct 2005, 20:39
When I first started this thread it was because a friend and I were bouncing pictures back and forth to each other trying to outdo each other. I got stuck with the C 46, hence the post on PPRuNe.

I had no idea it would capture all our imaginations like this.


Let’s keep it going,
Over to someone else for the next pic.


Clint.

henry crun
8th Oct 2005, 22:47
Hint: rear cockpit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/crun9/mystery.jpg

John Eacott
8th Oct 2005, 23:58
6 engines, tandem cockpit, B-47 Stratojet :D

And is the photo reversed, looking at the dials/throttles?

henry crun
9th Oct 2005, 01:25
As far as I know it is not reversed, and that is another throttle lever just inboard of the other 6.

Tiger_mate
9th Oct 2005, 07:43
It is a Stratojet co-pilot panel
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/bombers/b4/b47b-1.jpg

RJM
9th Oct 2005, 13:57
It's Tiger's call, but here's one to fill in the time or in case he doesn't post:

http://tinypic.com/eg70yb.jpg

Onan the Clumsy
9th Oct 2005, 14:53
:ooh: I've made model aeroplanes with more instruments than that.


Is that a gunsight?


V1 flying bomb - the test version of course.

or

Japanese flying bomb - the final version :ugh:

RJM
9th Oct 2005, 15:00
It is indeed a sight. Make a choice. BTW, max speed 525mph.

You'd have your toes curled around that rudder bar at 525mph I reckon.

BEagle
9th Oct 2005, 15:24
Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka.

RJM
9th Oct 2005, 15:38
Correct. That speed was observed in the dive to the target. :ooh:

BEagle
9th Oct 2005, 16:14
One more then:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/c22.jpg

forget
9th Oct 2005, 16:55
................B-58 Hustler.

BEagle
9th Oct 2005, 17:17
A B-45 with an 800 knot ASI?

Nope - 'tis indeed a B-58A Hustler.

Tiger_mate
9th Oct 2005, 17:21
Check out this site:

http://www.megspace.com/politics/greenham/index.htm

and click on the B58 arrives in the UK link, for an interesting bit from Pathe news.

forget
9th Oct 2005, 19:08
No time MJ. I'm off to the 'local' Sunday Night Brains Trust. You have control.

henry crun
9th Oct 2005, 20:00
John Eacott and Tiger_mate were right.

That particular B47 was a test bed for the Iroquois engine that was to power the Avro Arrow, hence the 7th throttle.

Tiger_mate
9th Oct 2005, 20:18
That particular B47 was a test bed for the Iroquois engine that was to power the Avro Arrow, hence the 7th throttle.

I wondered if it was anything to do with RATO, or is RATO light the fires and all hell is let loose for a few seconds of uncontrolled thrust?

Tiger_mate
9th Oct 2005, 21:16
Jet Provost??

henry crun
9th Oct 2005, 21:27
Tiger_mate: Here is the rear end.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/crun9/b47.jpg

Tiger_mate
9th Oct 2005, 21:32
Vampire Trainer

http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/images/main/98_anniversary/ANNVAM7.JPG

I would so like to fly in one of those. Sat in the airframe at Langford Lodge, and it is an office I could get very familiar with, along with a permanent smile :O

Thanks Henry, strange looking beasty

Tiger_mate
9th Oct 2005, 22:04
If anybody else would like to set the bait fill your boots, otherwise I'll dig out something in the morning. Must be your turn John E

John Eacott
9th Oct 2005, 23:59
OK, time for a real aircraft: mark of type essential to good recognition ;) :ok:

http://www.helicopterservice.com.au/photos/pprune/Mystery%20Cockpit%203.jpg

TM, are you really sure that you want to fly in one of those noisy, cramped, underpowered bits of timber and balsa :p Unless you're under 5' 6" tall, of course ;)

Onan the Clumsy
10th Oct 2005, 00:01
Referee! :{
Japanese flying bomb - the final version

That should have counted for something. I only ask because I have bugger all chance of getting any of the others :(

here's one for you while were in standby mode...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/onan_the_clumsy/cockpit2.jpg



Aaaaaargh! no longer in SBY mode. Cleared for the parallel puzzle then...

RJM
10th Oct 2005, 02:49
Onan that was my Jap flying bomb pic. You were right, but you offered two answers!

forget
10th Oct 2005, 08:20
John E. Bell AH-1(?) Cobra. Working on the question mark.

..............and the ? is W. Bell AH-1W Super Cobra.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/140135.jpg

John Eacott
10th Oct 2005, 10:23
Forget,

Very good, and it's the rear (pilot's) seat ;)

Your turn :ok:

Tiger_mate
10th Oct 2005, 10:52
John E said:

Unless you're under 5' 6" tall, of course

Have we met??? No really, designer helicopter crew here and I can almost stand up straight inside a Puma.

As for the Vampire, cramped noisy and wooden it may be, but I would still treasure half an hour in one.

forget
10th Oct 2005, 10:58
Bell Super Cobra. Ten years with an Oriental Bell distributor may have helped. Here you go -

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-2.jpg

barit1
10th Oct 2005, 12:19
From across the pond - I've never been in a Trident, but that must be it!

forget
10th Oct 2005, 12:49
Not a Trident. Trident below -

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/212932.jpg

Mr_Grubby
10th Oct 2005, 12:55
Yak - 40

Clint.

cringe
10th Oct 2005, 13:06
Yak-42

RJM
10th Oct 2005, 13:18
Too modern for a Yak-42?

forget
10th Oct 2005, 13:53
Spot on Cringe - Yak-42D. Your go.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/661917.jpg

jimgriff
10th Oct 2005, 14:32
That would be a Buccaneer then!!:8

Tim Inder
10th Oct 2005, 15:33
Eh?

Which one you mean? not Onan's surely?

Tarnished
10th Oct 2005, 17:09
With a gap in the proceedings how about this one?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/penric/893441.jpg

Tarnished

Its a bit small ( oo err missus) sorry

Edited to say: its much bigger now!!!

forget
10th Oct 2005, 17:30
Miniature DC-8, or a Lockheed Jetstar. OK, I used my initiative, and Google. The photographers name is there for all to see.;)

Tarnished
10th Oct 2005, 18:13
Nope, but right number of engines.

Mr_Grubby
10th Oct 2005, 18:47
Elvis Presley Jetstar ?

Clint.

Tarnished
10th Oct 2005, 19:13
Correct!

Spotted it on the Legacy Hall photo montage at work, thought it might take a bit longer, bit of a forgotten icon, the 4 engine biz jet.

Tarnished

forget
10th Oct 2005, 19:23
The Royal Air Force still operates 4 engined biz-jets. Is it my go?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-1.jpg

Tiger_mate
10th Oct 2005, 19:31
Canadair CL-44

Conroy conversion? Either way a freighter.

With very "70s" seats.

forget
10th Oct 2005, 19:37
Spot on! Over to you. ( Shouldn't Ibe doing something useful?)

Tiger_mate
10th Oct 2005, 20:01
A view that I have seen once or twice although I dont think that I actually took this photo.

http://www.artistic.flyer.co.uk/lowfly_8.jpg

Tarnished
10th Oct 2005, 20:14
Hawk T 1W good picture to play "spot the leader" with!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/penric/cockpit-f6.jpg

Tarnished

jumpseater
10th Oct 2005, 20:15
North Wales heading towards Snowdon and its a Hawk

Tarnished\'s one is a lightning I think

Tarnished
10th Oct 2005, 20:28
Tis indeed a Frightning, but is it a Mk3 or a Mk6?

The Rad Alt makes it a 6 (I don't think the Mk 3 had this late addition)

Looks quite spacious with the seat removed.

Did you spot the other Hawk in Tiger_Mate's piccy?

T

cringe
10th Oct 2005, 20:45
For a quick intermezzo (my turn from earlier today):

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk.jpg

forget
10th Oct 2005, 20:58
Beech King Air 100 - on second thoughts, no.

jumpseater
10th Oct 2005, 21:11
Yep I clocked the leader!, Dunno what mark, I only recognised the speed tape!

Heres mine
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/jumpseater/panel.jpg

treadigraph
10th Oct 2005, 21:31
My God, and I only went to the pub, er, quite some time ago and see how far we've progressed. You'll be teliing me we've abandoned wing-warping, and where's the bit of string gone...?

Jumpseater, I haven't got a clue, but there's an interesting button down on the left hand side that seems to mention things like LOFT, LABS, and apparently "Push to jettison"? WTF, or as the trendy Irish say FCEK?

Tarnished, yes I did spot the other Hawk, but only since you mentioned it!

forget
10th Oct 2005, 21:34
Jumpseater, Could be wrong but think you're supposed to recognise the next one up before you paste your A-10. Stand to be corrected.

jumpseater
10th Oct 2005, 22:00
forget, I thought I'd 'got one in credit' so to speak with tarnished's lightning!

And I haven't pasted an A-10 :p , its much faster than that!

Tarnished
10th Oct 2005, 22:11
Think Jumpseater's is an F-4 of some flavour, only based on the AI ball which I remember seeing as an impressionable Cadet Pilot on summer camp in the Wattisham sim. The AI ball was in the sim, the summer camp was on the base as a whole... I knew what I meant...

As for Cringe, no idea except to say I wouldn't fly it there are too many possible warning captions up on the coaming!!

Tarnished

jumpseater
10th Oct 2005, 22:17
Tarnished is correct, but front or back?

Tarnished
11th Oct 2005, 00:01
Back of a twin sticker ??

jumpseater
11th Oct 2005, 00:53
Yup, that'll be the one!

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 06:32
In the interests of tying off loose ends and getting another pic going...

Does Tarnished's response mean that Jumpseater's pic (which has turned into a red X on my machine) was of the back seat of an F-4?

Also, we never did find out what Onan's inflight panel shot was. Maybe two parallel series (to coin a phrase) is a bit confusing.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to Tarnished's pic.

henry crun
11th Oct 2005, 07:01
Try this one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/crun9/cockpit.jpg

BEagle
11th Oct 2005, 07:10
Meteor 8?

Gainesy
11th Oct 2005, 07:12
Gloster Meteor?

henry crun
11th Oct 2005, 07:28
A dead cert for you two. :)

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 08:13
Here's a quickie to pass the time while BEagle and Gainesy are at the pub or wherever:

http://tinypic.com/ehwsyg.jpg

forget
11th Oct 2005, 08:51
............Airship??

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 08:56
Nope. .

Gainesy
11th Oct 2005, 09:15
Some type of hovercraft?

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 09:37
It's definitely an aircraft.

http://tinypic.com/ehx2rq.jpg

Bravo73
11th Oct 2005, 09:47
Spruce Goose?

(Or HK-1 Flying Boat, to give it it's official title...)

effortless
11th Oct 2005, 09:53
Bugger beat me to it.:)

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 09:57
Correct.

Here's the man himself:

http://tinypic.com/ehx5eb.jpg
http://tinypic.com/ehx5ir.jpg

Bravo73
11th Oct 2005, 10:02
Wahoo!

But you have a go, effortless. I've gotta dash (and my photo album is rubbish anyway...!) :ok:

effortless
11th Oct 2005, 10:40
Ok I haven't even sat in one of these but I want one.:E

http://www.imageshackuk.com/files/1011/cockpit.jpg

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 10:54
JAS-39 Gripen........

forget
11th Oct 2005, 11:03
..................SU-27S. OK. It's a Gripen. Concede!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Gripen.jpg

effortless
11th Oct 2005, 11:09
Grippen yup, well done chaps.

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 11:48
Not trying to hog the space - it's effortless's turn but while he's thinking...

This is from a cockpit rather than of one. I won't gatecrash again, but this is such a cool shot:

http://tinypic.com/ehxits.jpg

forget
11th Oct 2005, 11:53
I'll take a wild guess - US Navy Blue Angels F/A-18 Hornet - or maybe an A-4...............perhaps. Ermmm.

RJM
11th Oct 2005, 11:59
Not so wild.

http://tinypic.com/ehxl6q.jpg

I'll sit back politely now. I signed up with a local mob to learn to fly today, so am a bit enthusiastic. I've wanted to do that since I was about three. It just took me a little while. :D

effortless
11th Oct 2005, 12:02
Not my turn it's Forgets I believe. He got my Grippen

forget
11th Oct 2005, 12:08
Cringe is front and centre. He got the Gripen first.

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 12:14
She did. I'll repost my previous pic, if people don't mind. Hint: it's from Old Europe:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk.jpg

PPRuNe Radar
11th Oct 2005, 14:39
Cringe

Wild guess at Piaggio PD808

Nardi Riviera
11th Oct 2005, 14:42
Beriev 200? :p

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 14:53
Nope, guys. Okay, it's French.

Tarnished
11th Oct 2005, 15:00
An early model Falcon?

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 15:09
No, sorry. First flew in the early 70s.

H.Finn
11th Oct 2005, 15:30
Dassault Mercure?

Edit: Of course it is the Corvette...

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 15:34
Nah, the Mercure is much bigger. Next hint: less than 50 were built.

PPRuNe Radar
11th Oct 2005, 15:35
Aerospatiale SN601 Corvette

H.Finn
11th Oct 2005, 15:35
See above! And now I have to type a minimum of 15 words...

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 15:43
Congrats, Corvette is right. Photo credit goes to Manuel Marin.

PPRuNe Radar is next, I think.

forget
11th Oct 2005, 15:44
No the wonder Miss Cringe wanted to resurrect that one!

PPRuNe Radar
11th Oct 2005, 15:50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/dont-cheat.jpg

BEagle
11th Oct 2005, 16:09
North American OV-10 Bronco.

I one photographed the front cockpit at the 1969 Paris Air Show- it was those 2 white throttle knobs which I remember!

The last time I saw one airborne was at Patrick AFB - I gather they're used for anti-marijuana crop spraying.

PPRuNe Radar
11th Oct 2005, 16:25
Well done BEags :ok:

The example in the pic has the ejection seats removed and thought that might put a few off the scent ;)

Tiger_mate
11th Oct 2005, 16:45
I once had a ride in a USAF OV10 Bronco. Excellent vis, but definately a dildo with engines. I wonder how many Bronco drivers get to old age with their teeth still in place, for there can be nothing on the planet that vibrates like a Bronco. If ever there was an apt name for a flying machine, then Bronco for the OV10 has to be it.

Pre flight briefing: If we take a bird, say to me "are you ok"; if there is no reply: EJECT!

For although it was duel control, you could not put the gear down from the back seat. Dont know if that was unique to my particular one or the type in general. To this day it strikes me as very odd.

BEagle
11th Oct 2005, 16:58
A novel description of the OV-10!

OK - here's one for you:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/hehee.jpg

PPRuNe Radar
11th Oct 2005, 17:16
Gotta be the HFB320 Hansa Jet :)

BEagle
11th Oct 2005, 17:19
It sure is! Well done!

PPRuNe Radar
11th Oct 2005, 17:28
I think they found the control columns on a couple of old bicycles ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/fishy.jpg

forget
11th Oct 2005, 17:52
Bruegeot Atlantic. Remember the one which didn't quite make it over the Black Sheds? Sad.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-867-039378.jpg

This\'ll get you thinking ----


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-39877.jpg

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 19:35
NAMC YS-11A........

forget
11th Oct 2005, 20:10
Ah so! Spot on Cringe. Sorry about the delay.

cringe
11th Oct 2005, 20:23
How about this one:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk2.jpg

Tiger_mate
12th Oct 2005, 08:19
I dont know but here are my thoughts in case they prompt anybody else.

Twin engined, likely to be a jet, with Martin Baker ejection seat pins. Why they are stowed rather than in the seat is a bit of a mystery. Pilot tends to keep boots on footwell rather than rudder pedals, may suggest the rear seat of a trainer albeit maybe OCU and therefore twin stick variant of front line.

Cockpit paint (lt grn) often associated with naval aircraft. RAF tend to be black overall, and those rivets would suggest late fifties or early sixties. Just out of picture at the top could be a radar scope which may suggest air defence role, likewise very pale gray (or white) on exterior.

Russian cabs could have those rivets, but they are normally blue inside.

Could be many, but Tiger Mate is baffled with this one. :confused:

foxmoth
12th Oct 2005, 08:27
Not an office I know but looks fairly agricultural - "Gannet"?

cringe
12th Oct 2005, 08:48
Excellent observations, Tiger_mate. Later than the 60s though.

foxmoth, it may look agricultural, but this type actually saw combat.

forget
12th Oct 2005, 09:25
Pucara perchance?

cringe
12th Oct 2005, 09:34
Sorry, no. It is named after a bird.

Brain Potter
12th Oct 2005, 09:52
Soko J-22 Orao (eagle) ?

BEagle
12th Oct 2005, 09:52
'Stormy Petrel on a stick'?

For Python enthusiasts.....

cringe
12th Oct 2005, 10:35
Well done Brain Potter, it is the Orao! The photo(by Maciek Stanecki) might be of the trainer version.

Over to you now.

BEagle
12th Oct 2005, 10:49
Well done indeed!

The 'bic pen green' colour indicated East European origins, but not Russian as no typical Russian attitude indicator. Obviously a twin-jet, but the Martin Baker seat had me stumped - hence the guess at L-39 Albatross although that seemed unlikely unless the seat used M-B pins!

Onan the Clumsy
12th Oct 2005, 12:25
I was going to say something Russian because of the colour. I was basing this on a pic I saw of one of those Russian airliners with the perspex nose that looks a lot like a WWII bomber and had a big downward looking radar.

But anyway, I'm crap at this game (apart from the Japanese flying bomb :ok: )

Brain Potter
12th Oct 2005, 13:19
Ok, what's this then?


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/BrainPotterr/2.jpg

Blimey - didn't realise that posting photos was so tricky!

Gainesy
12th Oct 2005, 13:46
Looks like a Northrop F-5G, nee F-20,Tigershark.

Brain Potter
12th Oct 2005, 14:47
Nope, but close!

treadigraph
12th Oct 2005, 15:14
Can't see the photo, but if Gainesy is close, could it be the Grumman X-29, which I seem to recall used a F-20/F-5 cockpit and forward fuselage?

Gainesy
12th Oct 2005, 15:16
Hmm, grumman X-29 then?:suspect:

EdAdd Should have refreshed the page before posting.

Brain Potter
12th Oct 2005, 18:59
Yes it's an X-29.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/BrainPotter/Fighter-a-X-29.jpg

Once upon a time in a ground cat type interview, I was asked to comment on a model of an A320 which had forward swept wings fitted. The first thing that sprang to mind was - which way is it flying? :D

Over to Treadigraph I think....

treadigraph
12th Oct 2005, 22:40
Down to Gainsey I think, without his suggestion I wouldn't have been any the wiser even if I could have seen the pic - which I can now! Complete guess on my part!

Anyway, I bet he's got some intriguing shots up his sleeve!

Gainesy
13th Oct 2005, 08:16
Thanks Treaders, that row of switches was nagging me, probably for all the test gear.

I'll find something later if anyone would like to step in meantime?

forget
13th Oct 2005, 08:28
Stepping in meantime.............

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/E2BHAWKEYE.jpg

diginagain
13th Oct 2005, 08:39
Just a guess - E2B Hawkeye?
Or was I reading the photo properties wrong?

forget
13th Oct 2005, 08:41
:\ How'd that happen? You win - for intitiative.

diginagain
13th Oct 2005, 09:08
Sorry. I feel a bit of a fraud now.:O
I wish I had a snap to offer, but I'm a helicopter ride & long drive away from my home PC, so back to you guys.

forget
13th Oct 2005, 09:23
Don't feel too bad. You spotted my first cock-up of the day.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-996854.jpg

Gainesy
13th Oct 2005, 09:59
SA Twin Pioneer?

forget
13th Oct 2005, 10:02
Not a Twin Pin.

Gainesy
13th Oct 2005, 15:08
Handley Page Herald?

forget
13th Oct 2005, 15:13
Full marks! Herald it is. Incidentally, the instrument panel is from Handley Page Herald 100 G-APWA, the Museum of Berkshire Aviation- and it looks to be a first class job.

http://aeroflt.users.netlink.co.uk/mus/uk/l-m/musberkshireavtn.htm


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/77914.jpg

Gainesy
13th Oct 2005, 15:33
Right then, try this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Gainesy/scan0001.jpg

(Sorry, can't place it direct @ moment.)

forget
13th Oct 2005, 16:21
Tupolev Tu-142?

Gainesy
13th Oct 2005, 16:41
No..................................................

Tarnished
13th Oct 2005, 18:22
An 124?


Curtained doorway under centre console makes me suspect a double decker of some sort.

T

Tarnished
13th Oct 2005, 19:12
So is gainsey being picky by saying No........................ to Tu 142?

How about a Tu 95?

Tiger_mate
13th Oct 2005, 21:01
Looks like a TU142M to me??????????
http://www.spmodelismo.com.br/howto/am/walkaround/walk-007-21.jpg
.........and if it isnt, it is something with an identical cockpit!
http://www.spmodelismo.com.br/howto/am/walkaround/walk-007-29.jpg
No central thottle quadrant is an interesting concept of a 4 engined aircraft. You would need hands like a Russian, but then again................

(Right click & "properties" for credits)

forget
13th Oct 2005, 21:45
TU-95 (Quietly)

Tiger_mate
14th Oct 2005, 06:26
TU-95s do have a (communal) throttle quadrant in the centre.

Gainesy
14th Oct 2005, 08:41
Tarnished takes the trophy, Tu-95.

(Not being pedantic but I have no idea what a Tu-142 cockpit looks like).:)

forget
14th Oct 2005, 09:09
Looks like this ..............

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/TU142M.jpg

BEagle
14th Oct 2005, 09:58
And both the Tu-95 and Tu-142 were based on this!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/dontcheat14.jpg

forget
14th Oct 2005, 10:03
Tarnished is still asleep in Fort Worth so here's a thing of beauty to be going on with.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-5671.jpg

BEagle
14th Oct 2005, 11:03
Beriev Be-200

And yes, a thing of beauty indeed!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Be200_51.jpg

forget
14th Oct 2005, 11:11
Old Georgy Beriev must be grinning in his grave. He was up there with the best!

BEagle
14th Oct 2005, 11:18
OK - here's one to keep you going until Tarnished wakes up!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/cpFRi.jpg

forget
14th Oct 2005, 11:32
TU-144.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/852974.jpg

BEagle
14th Oct 2005, 11:51
Indeed!

Ugly looking thing, compared to Concorde.

Tiger_mate
14th Oct 2005, 11:55
Fuel to the fire:

This is a TU95 cockpit from a russian source:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/tupolev/tu95/tu-95ms_038_cockpit.jpg

..and whilst there are serveral variants, a TU142 is one such variant.

forget
14th Oct 2005, 12:04
TU-142. Does that mean I get two goes:O

Here...............

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/567879.jpg