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cringe
6th Apr 2006, 18:47
Here's an unusual bird (not French!):
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk39.jpg
jabberwok
7th Apr 2006, 14:19
When Cringe says "unusual" I get very worried... ;)
cringe
7th Apr 2006, 15:54
LOL, I'm just trying to add some continental flavour to the thread with the pics I find on the net. Not to worry, British and American cockpits still prevail.
This should be a big enough clue :) :
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk39a.gif
MReyn24050
7th Apr 2006, 22:02
LOL, I'm just trying to add some continental flavour to the thread with the pics I find on the net. Not to worry, British and American cockpits still prevail.
This should be a big enough clue :) :
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk39a.gif
Cringe
Bless you. Please do not take that we all feel the same. We admire the challenges that you set us and hope you continue to do so. It tells us "Know it alls" that we really do not Know it all. I admire the knowledge and data that you have built up in your interest in this thread and hope you will continue to challenge us.
Mel
Bert Stiles
7th Apr 2006, 22:25
OK it's the Kalinin K-12. More interesting is where on earth the picture comes from. Somewhere round what is known as Ramenskoii (or variations thereon)?
Publish them C. The book would sell I'm sure. I'd buy a copy.I guess copyright might be tricky.
If I'm correct (even with the big clue it's not guaranteed) it's a free for all - absolutely no time. Just checked in to see where it was up to.
BS.
pigboat
8th Apr 2006, 01:24
Cringe, please continue to post whatever you wish. I applaud your dedication to this thread. :ok: It's a pleasure for me when I get the occasional one correct. :)
cringe
8th Apr 2006, 07:01
Thank you guys for the kind words.
As expected, Bert is correct. :) Kalinin K-12 Zhar Ptitsa (Firebird) was a Soviet tailless bomber prototype from 1936.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk39b.jpg
Bert, the cockpit photo comes from one of the five books in Russian given as bibliography. Thanks for the suggestion - yes, obtaining the necessary copyright permissions for a book of photos would be quite a task.
MReyn24050
8th Apr 2006, 15:04
Here is a nice easy one for Grand National Day.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz77.jpg
LOMCEVAK
8th Apr 2006, 15:39
Hurricane. The combined gear and flap selector is, as far as I know, unique to the Hurricane. Someone else may post for me, please.
MReyn24050
8th Apr 2006, 16:18
LOMCEVAK
A Hurricane it is as you say, in fact it is the Shuttleworth Collection's Hawker Sea Hurricane Mk.IB (G-BKTH).
MReyn24050
9th Apr 2006, 20:04
Well I waited 24 hours but no takers, so to keep the thread going i post this one. I am sure it wont last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz65.jpg[/IMG]
682al
10th Apr 2006, 19:27
You've got me struggling with this one, Mel!
I want to say it's a British machine, going by the spade grip, firing triggers, magneto switch etc, but many of the instruments don't look right...
Is it an export version of a British type?
PPRuNe Pop
10th Apr 2006, 19:58
Could it be a Gladiator?
MReyn24050
10th Apr 2006, 21:19
682al
It is British. From this type came a number of improvements and variants to form a distinctive line of succession extending over nearly 20 years. this aircraft attracted attention from abroad and inquiries were recorded from many nations.
However, I am not sure what Mark this is.
PPrune
Not the Gladiator.
Mel
treadigraph
10th Apr 2006, 21:34
Hawker Fury?
MReyn24050
10th Apr 2006, 21:40
treadigraph
Sorry Not the Hawker Fury.
This I hope is a clearer photograph. It was sold abroad.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz81.jpg[/IMG]
682al
10th Apr 2006, 23:37
Gloster Grebe?
Tim Inder
11th Apr 2006, 07:24
Or a Bristol Bulldog?
MReyn24050
11th Apr 2006, 08:05
Sorry fellers this one is neither the Gloster Grebe nor the Bristol Bulldog.
I should add although many countries were interested in this aircraft it was not sold to many or sold in great numbers.
682al
11th Apr 2006, 09:15
Is it a torpedo carrier?
MReyn24050
11th Apr 2006, 09:46
682al
No, not a torpedo carrier. It was designed as a private venture. It did not have much success in the UK. Several Mks were tested. A later Mk was sold abroad under a different name to a couple of countries. One of these countries used the aircraft to carry under wing mounted bombs.
Mel
Captain Airclues
11th Apr 2006, 10:06
Vickers Vixen?
asw28-866
11th Apr 2006, 10:35
Wild stab in the dark.....Fairey III?
'866'
MReyn24050
11th Apr 2006, 11:09
Sorry asw28-866 Capatain Airclues has it. It was the cockpit of a Vickers Vixen. As used by the Chilian Air Force.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/VickersVixen.jpg
You have control Capatain. :)
Captain Airclues
11th Apr 2006, 11:30
Sorry but I don't have any suitable photos. Anyone please feel free to post.
Airclues
MReyn24050
12th Apr 2006, 13:11
Sorry but I don't have any suitable photos. Anyone please feel free to post.
Airclues
Is that the general case i.e no suitable photographs or do people think the thread has lost it's appeal? I have several photographs yet but I do not want to upset people by jumping in and posting them.
treadigraph
12th Apr 2006, 13:33
Well I think people still seem to like having a go, so I'd post what you have... :ok:
I don't have any to post (and I'm not very good anyway, but I enjoy a challenge!)
MReyn24050
12th Apr 2006, 13:58
tredigraph
Thanks for your response. This one goes back a few years.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz63.jpg
Mr_Grubby
12th Apr 2006, 14:29
Mel.
I don't think it's a case of the thread loosing its appeal.
As the time has past the pictures have become more obscure. I personally don't have a clue about the older cockpits, hence no postings from me for a while.
But look at the number of viewings each day. There are loads. So people must be still interested.
Clint.
682al
12th Apr 2006, 14:36
Vickers Virginia?
edited to say changed my mind and now think it may be a Vickers Vulcan?
MReyn24050
12th Apr 2006, 14:59
Clint
Many thanks for your comment and re-assurance. I just didnt want people to think I was trying to hog the posting as I have posted several recently.
682al
Sorry neither the Vickers Virginia nor the Vulcan.
Mel
MReyn24050
12th Apr 2006, 20:43
It is a British aircraft.
jabberwok
12th Apr 2006, 22:08
Only a guess but I'll say Vickers Vernon so we can rule out the whole trio..
I'm still interested in this thread but, like Treadders, I've run out of shots to post.
MReyn24050
12th Apr 2006, 22:22
jabberwok
Sorry not the Vickers Vernon, this is from a different British Manufacturer.
Mel
jabberwok
13th Apr 2006, 02:49
Supermarine?
MReyn24050
13th Apr 2006, 08:34
Not Supermarine either
asw28-866
13th Apr 2006, 11:20
Handley Page Heyford?
I for one still enjoy the chase, even if I never get it right!
'866':ok:
682al
13th Apr 2006, 12:26
Armstrong Whitworth Argosy?
MReyn24050
13th Apr 2006, 13:00
asw28-866
Sorry :ugh: not the Handley Page Heyford.
682al is correct it is a photogrpah of the first Armstrong Whitworth Argosy :ok:
You have control again 682al :)
682al
13th Apr 2006, 13:39
Thanks Mel,
Here's a slightly more up-to-date one...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/quiz.jpg
On-MarkBob
13th Apr 2006, 14:13
It'll be a Beachcraft, possibly V35 Bonanza with the butterfly tail.
682al
13th Apr 2006, 14:40
Correct On-MarkBob, it the 1958 V-tailed Bonanza.
SASless
13th Apr 2006, 15:09
...or as it is known in the USA....the "Forked Tail Doctor Killer".
MReyn24050
14th Apr 2006, 15:47
Just an easy one to keep the thread going.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz79.jpg
LOMCEVAK
15th Apr 2006, 14:52
This thread has really slowed down! So, to keep it going, a guess. WWII, American, P-63 perhaps? However, I am, not convinced!
Where has Ms Cringe gone?
MReyn24050
15th Apr 2006, 16:04
LOMCEVAK
American, yes and WWII, but not the P-63.
The Invisible Cat
15th Apr 2006, 20:38
One thunk 'tis indeed a Bell aircraft :
P-59B Airacomet
MReyn24050
15th Apr 2006, 20:49
The Invisible Cat
You have thunked correctly :D . It is the Bell P-59B Airacomet You have control
The Invisible Cat
15th Apr 2006, 20:54
http://mtill.club.fr/tmp/cockpit1.jpg
Saab Dastard
15th Apr 2006, 21:29
Is this a glider by any chance?
The Invisible Cat
15th Apr 2006, 22:14
'tis indeed a glider
to make it easier, it is not German and although it is European, it has some connections with the cousins on the far side of the pond.
cringe
16th Apr 2006, 14:53
Bréguet Br-901 ?
The Invisible Cat
16th Apr 2006, 15:23
Congrats, Ms Cringe, 'tis indeed a Breguet Br-901 (http://vintagesailplanes.de/Breguet_901.htm) (in German)
The link with the cousins on the far side of the pond is the excellent Paul McCready (http://www.ucar.edu/governance/meetings/oct00/maccready.html) (see also here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_MacCready)), one of the most successful fathers of the human powered (http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/maccread_condor.htm) and solar powered (http://www.pvresources.com/en/helios.php) flight.
Glider pilots know him better for his theory of cross-country flight optimization, which lead to the McCready ring and hence to his victory in the 1956 world gliding championships (http://www.ssa.org/UsTeam/adobe%20pdf/1956%20WGC.pdf), on a Br-901
cringe
16th Apr 2006, 16:09
Thanks, TIC. Next challenge:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk40.jpg
The Invisible Cat
16th Apr 2006, 23:17
late thirties US twin ?
cringe
17th Apr 2006, 07:45
A twin, yes. Not American. Not from the '30s.
Opssys
17th Apr 2006, 12:07
Idly flicking through the 134 Pages of this thread, I have realised that as an unintentional 'spin off' by sorting through by date and country, the story of the development of the Cockpit has been illustrated. When this thread reaches the magic 90,000 it may be worth collating into an online resource for research.
Just an idle thought from an Idle Man.
DIH
pigboat
17th Apr 2006, 15:24
Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer?
cringe
17th Apr 2006, 16:03
Pigboat,
Smaller and earlier than the Pioneer. European, but not British. One of the two survivors.
Opssys,
Great idea. Not sure about copyright issues.
treadigraph
17th Apr 2006, 19:37
I think there are two surviving Hurel-Dubois HD-34s, so that's my complete guess...
cringe
17th Apr 2006, 20:15
Sorry, not a HD-34 or French. The aircraft was once named after a diplomat who used it during WWII.
treadigraph
17th Apr 2006, 21:19
Nord NC.701 Martinet? French-built Siebel S.204, not sure when it was built, and in any case I think I'm really dredging for it Cringe!
cringe
17th Apr 2006, 21:31
Neither French- nor German-built. Still airworthy, I think.
The Invisible Cat
17th Apr 2006, 22:18
Must be Italy then, let me guess, wouldn't the diplomat be Count Galeazzo Ciano and the airlplane a Caproni (Ca. 310 Libeccio for instance) ?
cringe
17th Apr 2006, 22:28
Sorry TIC, not Italian. The plane and the diplomat came from different (neighbouring) countries. :)
jabberwok
18th Apr 2006, 01:57
Czech design, Polish Count?
cringe
18th Apr 2006, 05:36
Nope, sorry, although a Count was involved.
cringe
18th Apr 2006, 11:48
Another clue: twin-tailed design.
jabberwok
18th Apr 2006, 11:51
Swedish/Finnish?
treadigraph
18th Apr 2006, 12:15
Is it the SAI/KZ air ambulance jobbie - (is that where you were heading Jabberwok?). Can't remember the number but it looked a little like a Percival Q6.
cringe
18th Apr 2006, 12:59
Correct, treadigraph. A Danish SAI KZ-IV it was (only two built). This one flew the Swedish diplomat Folke Bernadotte to Germany, where he negotiated the release of prisoners from concentration camps.
http://www.ampa.ch/images/calendrier/Calendrier2004/KZ%20IV%20%20juin.jpg
treadigraph
18th Apr 2006, 13:43
Lovely looking aeroplane!
All due acknowledgements to Jabberwok who pushed me in the right direction and whose thunder I probably stole!
As usual I have no pics to offer, so anybody else please feel free!
jabberwok
19th Apr 2006, 04:51
My cupboard is empty too..
682al
19th Apr 2006, 10:38
tis a Shackleton.
682al
19th Apr 2006, 12:06
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/quizzie.jpg
Thanks Mike, how about this one?
682al
19th Apr 2006, 12:45
Sorry, not the Lysander!
MReyn24050
19th Apr 2006, 13:41
682al
Sorry to deviate for a moment off the thread but you wrote sometime ago.
Thanks MReyn24050. I'm half-sure I've seen that photo published as a Wellington VI somewhere!
I'll put something up later.
Perhaps it was here you saw it?
I have been doing some digging into old copies of Aeroplane Monthly and in December 1986 and Part 5 of an article entitled "The Basketweave Bomber" was published concerning the development the Wellington. This Part covered the Marks V and VI. The following pictures were published with the article. It can be seen that they incorrectly include a picture of the rear view of the instrument panel fitted to the Type 432 "Tin Mossie". When one compares this view with the one on the next page of the control column it certainly isnt a Mk VI
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/TheBasketWeaveBomber2.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/TheBasketWeaveBomber.jpg
682al
19th Apr 2006, 14:39
Thanks Mel,
That clears that up nicely - and it proves my memory is still in reasonable working order!
Algernon Lacey
19th Apr 2006, 16:50
Is the line drawing cockpit an Albacore??
682al
19th Apr 2006, 17:19
No, not an Albacore, sorry!
green granite
19th Apr 2006, 21:12
fairey barracuda?
682al
19th Apr 2006, 21:15
Not a Barracuda, sorry!
MReyn24050
20th Apr 2006, 07:27
Going on the shape of the windscreen. Scottish Aviation Pioneer C.C.1 perhaps
LowNSlow
20th Apr 2006, 09:00
A Fiesler Storch perchance?
682al
20th Apr 2006, 11:07
Mel has it, the Pioneer C.C.1.
Apologies for the delay in confirming this - more p.c. probs.
MReyn24050
20th Apr 2006, 13:00
682al
Thanks, no problem.
I am sure this will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz93.jpg
Mel
jabberwok
20th Apr 2006, 14:33
Short SC1?
MReyn24050
20th Apr 2006, 14:59
jabberwok
You have it, said it would not last long.
You have control
jabberwok
21st Apr 2006, 02:46
You have control
Unfortunately not. Having run out of pictures here I'm relegated to innocent bystander status.
MReyn24050
21st Apr 2006, 08:22
Sorry to hear that jabberwok. I will put this one up to keep the thread moving.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz95.jpg
MReyn24050
21st Apr 2006, 19:04
It is a British aircraft.
Armstrong-Whitworth Apollo?
MReyn24050
21st Apr 2006, 21:20
BSD
You have it. :ok: It is the Armstrong Whitworth Apollo
Many thanks MReyn. Still haven't managed to find anything to contribute, and off to work at the crack of dawn for 5 days. can I hand the honours back to you?
p.s. where on earth do you find these priceless pics?
MReyn24050
21st Apr 2006, 22:19
BSD
No problem, unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it I could not throw out the magazines I have collected over the years.
I am sure this will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz97.jpg[/IMG]
Mel
682al
21st Apr 2006, 23:10
Can't resist that one...
...it's a Warwick.
My next contribution will have to wait as I'm about to leave for the day. Could someone take my place, please, and I'll catch up later?
MReyn24050
22nd Apr 2006, 08:32
682al
Quite correct :ok:. I somehow knew that it wouldn't beat you :D.
Mel
MReyn24050
22nd Apr 2006, 19:13
Can't resist that one...
...it's a Warwick.
My next contribution will have to wait as I'm about to leave for the day. Could someone take my place, please, and I'll catch up later?
No takers? Here is one to keep things moving.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz88.jpg[/IMG]
foxmoth
22nd Apr 2006, 19:19
E.E. Lightning?
MReyn24050
22nd Apr 2006, 19:29
Foxmoth
Sorry not the English Electric Lightning.
Mel
MReyn24050
22nd Apr 2006, 19:48
682al
Forgive me for jumping in but things seemed to be static for several hours
Mel
jabberwok
23rd Apr 2006, 03:46
Handley Page 115?
MReyn24050
23rd Apr 2006, 07:00
No, not the Handley Page 115 sorry.
BEagle
23rd Apr 2006, 10:40
McDonnell Banshee?
Bit of a WAG, I'm afraid!
MReyn24050
23rd Apr 2006, 10:56
Sorry BEagle your WAG (Wild Guess?) is incorrect. This aircraft is not the McDonnell Banshee.
Mr_Grubby
23rd Apr 2006, 11:37
Another wild guess,
Grumman F-9 Panther ?
Clint.
MReyn24050
23rd Apr 2006, 12:02
Clint
Great to see you. No,sorry not the Grumman F-9 Panther either.
Mel
MReyn24050
23rd Apr 2006, 17:02
This one isn't from the USA and a few years later than the Panther.
BEagle
23rd Apr 2006, 17:48
CF-100?
.
MReyn24050
23rd Apr 2006, 18:13
No, wrong side of the pond.
682al
23rd Apr 2006, 22:37
Sud-Aviation Vautour?
MReyn24050
24th Apr 2006, 07:09
682al
Not a Sud-Aviation Vautour.
Mel
Jet-lagged and far from home ( at work ) I'll have a WAG - wild-a***d guess!
A10 Thunderbolt II
LowNSlow
24th Apr 2006, 08:40
Is it the Hawker P1127 (Kestrel)
MReyn24050
24th Apr 2006, 08:55
Jet-lagged and far from home ( at work ) I'll have a WAG - wild-a***d guess!
A10 Thunderbolt II
BSD
Thanks for the definition of WAG :D Sorry not the A10, this bird is from Europe not the USA.
LowNSlow
Not the Hawker P1127 (Kestrel) wrong side of the Channel.
MReyn24050
24th Apr 2006, 17:54
This twin engineed aircraft was a development of a single engined aircraft.
treadigraph
24th Apr 2006, 19:13
Fouga Magister (think that was a development of a single engined jet "sailplane" from the same team?)
MReyn24050
24th Apr 2006, 19:26
treadigraph
Not the Fouga Magister. This one had American engines not Turbomeca Engines.The aircraft is not French.
BEagle
24th Apr 2006, 19:54
Fiat G-91Y.
.
MReyn24050
24th Apr 2006, 20:01
BEagle has it. It is a photograph of the Fiat G-91Y cockpit.:ok:
You have control.
Mel
BEagle
24th Apr 2006, 20:58
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/24.jpg
Very noisy!
eoincarey
24th Apr 2006, 23:16
F4 Phantom perchance?
cringe
25th Apr 2006, 06:28
Yak-141...?
Tim Inder
25th Apr 2006, 11:43
Why the question mark, cringe? :)
Bah! have a day off from prooning and some blighter guesses the only pic I've actually known on sight for ages! Curses to you Mr. Beagle!! :E
MReyn24050
25th Apr 2006, 16:31
cringe.
I agree with Tim Inder. No need for the question mark it is without doubt the
Yakovlev Yak-141 "Freestyle".
Not seen you on line recently hope all is well
Mel
cringe
25th Apr 2006, 19:44
Tim and Mel, thanks. I'm no expert, so I couldn't be certain. :)
Could we move to a new pic while waiting for BEagle's verdict?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk41.jpg
pigboat
25th Apr 2006, 22:57
Mike, that looks like an expresso machine handle. I'd say the aircraft is definitely Italian. ;)
BEagle
26th Apr 2006, 06:10
It was indeed the Yak 141!
Never have so many car alarms gone off simultaneously as they did during its Farnborough display!
That new one looks to have had rather a cosy flight deck!
cringe
26th Apr 2006, 06:50
Thanks, BEagle.
LOL, pigboat. Not Italian, though it comes from a country of coffee drinkers.
MReyn24050
26th Apr 2006, 10:10
cringe.
Frank Sinatra loved to sing that "they've got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil,"
Wild guess, could this be an early Embraer Aircraft? Perhaps the EMB 100?
Mel
cringe
26th Apr 2006, 10:39
Sorry Mel, wrong continent. Much earlier than the EMB-100.
MReyn24050
26th Apr 2006, 11:04
The French also like their coffee, Hurel-Dubois HD-31 or HD-32?
cringe
26th Apr 2006, 11:44
Nope, not French either.
cringe
26th Apr 2006, 15:15
Mike,
Not American. Not from the '20s.
cringe
26th Apr 2006, 17:43
Not German, sorry.
pigboat
26th Apr 2006, 23:26
Fokker F.XII?
The C-46E is proceeding apace, Ms. cringe. I've actually figured out how to cut off the nose and fabricate the stepped windshield! :O :D
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 08:10
That's great to hear, pigboat. Looking forward to see the result. :)
It's not the Fokker XII, but you got the country right. The two types were used by the same airline.
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 09:13
Not a trimotor. F7 is too early as well.
pigboat
27th Apr 2006, 14:08
Ok, how about the Fokker F.VIII? :)
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 14:25
It isn't a Fokker. :)
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 15:31
Re the "only one built": guilty as charged. :D
Not the Postjager. The manufacturer produced about 30 different types.
treadigraph
27th Apr 2006, 15:55
Is it a Koolhoven of some description Cringe? Sorry, I haven't got me big boy's book of aeroplanes here, and haven't time to research the exact type...
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 15:58
Yup, a Koolhoven.
MReyn24050
27th Apr 2006, 16:03
Control Yokes looks very similar to the one on the PZL P.37B Los. Could this be the PZL 44 Wicher?
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 16:11
Sorry Mel, it is Dutch - treadigraph just got the manufacturer right.
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 16:36
FK-48 it was. :ok: More here: http://www.alexdenouden.nl/artikelen/koolhoven06.htm
Mike, you have control.
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 18:16
Here it is: List of aircraft types posted on this thread so far (http://www.geocities.com/blue_skies52003/list.htm)
Bre901
27th Apr 2006, 19:34
cringe
may you be praised for keeping that list up to date :ok: :ok:
it's the Lioré et Olivier LeO 213
:8
cringe
27th Apr 2006, 19:43
Thanks, Bre. :ok: Correction duly noted.
MReyn24050
28th Apr 2006, 21:08
Mike
Any chance of a bigger photograph?
cringe
29th Apr 2006, 06:17
Mike, I think it works if you delete the old pic first.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/MJs_pic.jpg
(This isn't a bid, so everyone please continue)
MReyn24050
29th Apr 2006, 14:22
Mike says "think wet".
Well my first thoughts were Convair Sea Dart but that aircraft's instrument panel was very different. Then I thought Saunders Roe SR.A/1 but control stick is not correct. How about the Beriev Be-10, pilot saqt under a fighter type canopy.
MReyn24050
29th Apr 2006, 15:28
Thanks Mike. Perhaps it the Yak 38 Forger Russian Naval Aircraft.
MReyn24050
29th Apr 2006, 16:24
OK Mike I will go the other side of the pond a later version of the Grumman
F11F-1 Tiger the last of Grumman 'cat' family of fighters.
Led Zep
29th Apr 2006, 16:55
Since MReyn24050 beat me to the punch with the F11F-1 (just as well I refreshed before posting! :ok:), here is another. Should be easy:
http://www.airpics4you.ch/flightforum/dez03/07.jpg
con-pilot
29th Apr 2006, 17:06
Yak-40? perhaps.
MReyn24050
29th Apr 2006, 17:14
YAK 40 of Hemus Air Reg No LZ-DOS perhaps? However seems Con-pilot got there first.
Led Zep
29th Apr 2006, 17:35
Yes, Yak-40. Told you it would be easy! ;)
MReyn24050
30th Apr 2006, 16:31
con-pilot doesn't seem to be forthcoming with a challenge so to keep things moving I post the following. Not that it will last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz105.jpg[/IMG]
MReyn24050
30th Apr 2006, 17:56
Sorry Mike not a Lightning. Hope the weather was good for the BBQ.
MReyn24050
30th Apr 2006, 19:49
Same era as the Lightning Mike.
Mr_Grubby
30th Apr 2006, 20:04
F 101 Voodoo ?
C.
MReyn24050
30th Apr 2006, 20:11
Hi Clint great to see you. Sorry not a F101 Voodoo
Mel
green granite
30th Apr 2006, 20:57
swift ? perchance
MReyn24050
30th Apr 2006, 22:29
Sorry not a Supermarine Swift.
Mr_Grubby
1st May 2006, 02:24
Gnat.
C.
MReyn24050
1st May 2006, 08:17
Not the Folland Gnat Clint.
Mr_Grubby
1st May 2006, 09:07
Supermarine Scimitar ?
C.
BEagle
1st May 2006, 10:04
Saunders Roe SR-53.
MReyn24050
1st May 2006, 11:42
Sorry Clint. BEagle has it :ok: . It is indeed the Saunders Roe SR.53. This is the actual aircraft XD 145. The cockpit photograph dates September 1958.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/SaundersRoeSR.jpg
BEagle you have control.
BEagle
1st May 2006, 13:41
'twas the shape of the hood frame and the word 'Rocket' on the panel which gave the game away!
Someone else please as I will be off the air for a while.
Mike,
No heavy showers here in sunny downtown Essex, lovely evening so far.
Meanwhile, back to business. I'll open the bidding on this one with the Blackburn Beverly.
BSD
Mr_Grubby
1st May 2006, 19:32
Bristol Brabazon ?
C.
Mr_Grubby
1st May 2006, 20:58
Thanks Mike.
It's past my bedtime and Matron will be round soon with my medication and hot chocolat. So I will post tommorrow.
Clint.
Bert Stiles
1st May 2006, 22:48
Mike,
I'm sure we've had the Brabazon - but your picture is marvellous. I've never seen it before and the idea of a Bristol Freighter as a chase aircraft is so wonderful I'm going to frame it. I flew in one in an air race once and we were beaten by a C-47 and a Heron.
BS
Golf Charlie Charlie
1st May 2006, 23:04
....the idea of a Bristol Freighter as a chase aircraft
I so agree - fantastic concept, and a new one on me. For the Bristol Freighter to be a chase aircraft, I suppose it really shows up the Brabazon for how awful a design it was.
BEagle
2nd May 2006, 05:04
Surely it was just a Bristol aircraft PR shot?
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 08:01
I am having trouble with the 'Iron Brain'
It wont let me paste an image so please someone take my go.
Clint.
cringe
2nd May 2006, 08:40
Clint, thanks. Could you try posting the pic or a link to it again? We might be able to help resolve the glitch.
In the meantime, whose bike is this?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk42.jpg
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 12:43
MReyn24050
Happy 67th Birthday Mel !!
From Clint and the rest of the What Cockpit mob !!
C.
I'd love to post a cockpit here - but don't appaear to be able to use attachments.
Is there a qualification level or am I just being a D'oh brain ?;)
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 13:10
DH106.
Have a look at the sticky at the top of the Thread Page. 'Posting Images'
It really is quite easy, but having said that, I did have problems this am but all now sorted.
C.
cringe
2nd May 2006, 13:18
Clint, since it was really your turn, please post your pic - I'll use mine some other time.
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 13:21
Thanks cringe.
http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit12.jpg
Is there a 'winner posts' etiquette here, or all comers welcome?
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 14:15
DH106.
Yes, the winner posts, or opens it up to the forum if they have no pics available then it's a free for all !!
The reason we have two pics running at the moment is because of the generous offer from cringe.
C.
Thanks Mr. Grubby
The style of your latest looks like a 'calender shot' straight out of my 2006 'cockpits' calender - but alas, it's none of the 12.
forget
2nd May 2006, 15:37
P-51D Mustang....................
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 15:57
forget.
no sorry.
treadigraph
2nd May 2006, 16:14
Corsair (FG-1 or F-4U) ?
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 16:16
sorry Treaders.
Mr_Grubby
2nd May 2006, 18:32
DH106.
Well done sir.
Republic P-47D Thunderbolt.
You have control.
C.
Blimey - beginners luck I guess.
Okay, here's a hard one. I expect to be lynched for this one:
http://www.cv990.eclipse.co.uk/Cockpit1.jpg
http://www.cv990.eclipse.co.uk/Cockpit2.jpg
cringe
2nd May 2006, 19:05
Breda-Zappata BZ-308
MReyn24050
2nd May 2006, 19:38
MReyn24050
Happy 67th Birthday Mel !!
From Clint and the rest of the What Cockpit mob !!
C.
Clint
Many thanks for your kind regards.
cringe
Well done
Mel
Breda-Zappata BZ-308
Well done Cringe - guess Iunderestimated people's knowledge for the obscure.
Over to you..... ;)
cringe
2nd May 2006, 20:43
Mel,
Thank you and Happy Birthday from me too!
DH106,
Thanks. There's an interesting slide-show on the BZ-308 here:
http://www.associazioni.milano.it/isec/mostra%20Breda/pagine/1945-59/Bz308/p01.htm
Speaking of obscure - I'll remove the pic below if there are too many complaints. ;)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk42.jpg
cringe
3rd May 2006, 11:43
Too obscure I guess... Hints: American, 1950s.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk42a.jpg
MReyn24050
3rd May 2006, 12:48
cringe
Many thanks for your kind wishes.
Is this the Farnam FC-1 Fly-Cycle 1954 perhaps?
"Lawrence Farnham, Fort Collins CO.
FC-1 Fly-Cycle 1954 = 1pOlwM; 75hp Continental A-75; span: 29'7" length: 19'0" v: 85/x/30 range: 150. A genuine flying motorbike; the pilot had no cockpit, but rode the plane sitting astride the fuselage with his feet resting on the wings. Control was by means of handlebars and a twist-grip trottle in the right grip. As a "working" plane, containers for crop-spraying could be carried in its wings. [N201A]".
Mel
cringe
3rd May 2006, 13:11
Well done Mel, that's the one. :ok: The photos were taken from http://vulatalk.zdwebhosting.com/pictures3/lowpower/index0005.html.
Over to you.
MReyn24050
3rd May 2006, 13:21
cringe
Thanks for that. I found the details of it but could not find any photographs. Must have been a bit scary to fly.
No doubt you will not have any difficulties with this one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz100.jpg
Mel
Is that a staggered cockpit ?;)
MReyn24050
3rd May 2006, 14:43
Is that a staggered cockpit ?;)
Yes DH106 the two pilot's seats are staggered.
Mel
So........ is it a Staggerwing then?
MReyn24050
3rd May 2006, 15:41
Sorry DH106 not a Staggerwing, this one is not a Biplane.
Mel
can be an old french Caudron Simoun by any chance ?
( I'm not ready to take over)
MReyn24050
3rd May 2006, 17:31
mikl
You have it. :ok: It is in fact the Cauldron C.635 Simoun. F-AZAM.
Perhaps if you are unable to put up the next challenge DH106 could assist.
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/4550L-2.jpg
Let's see if this works
What a beast!
Latecoere 521? Can't run to accents I' afraid.
More like the Latécoère L631, with six engines?
The window configuration looks more like the mighty Latecoere 631, not the older and 'squarer' looking 521.
More like the Latécoère L631, with six engines?
682al - ya beat me to it ! ;)
MReyn24050
4th May 2006, 18:04
682al
It is your challenge.
Mel
Mr_Grubby
4th May 2006, 18:08
682al
I hope you don't mind me jumping in to keep the thread going ?
C.
http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit13.jpg
Mr_Grubby
4th May 2006, 18:12
Doh !!!
Mel you beat me to it. I have been watching the forum all day waiting for a picture.
Clint.
682al
I hope you don't mind me jumping in to keep the thread going ?
C.
Not at all Clint.
Having solved (hopefully?) my earlier p.c. problems, I'm now one of many Wanadoo customers who can no longer rely on a solid connection. Accessing the net is a matter of luck! :*
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/4550.jpg
Spot on 682al and DH 106.
It must have been wonderful asking the helmsman fellow to come onto East-by-East-South-East.............or more appropriately, Est-acote-d' Est- Sud-Est...........and a small glass of Pinot-Noir, steward.
MReyn24050
5th May 2006, 12:53
Clint
Early version of Grumman F14 Tomcat perhaps?
Mel
Mr_Grubby
5th May 2006, 13:25
No, not an F-14.
C.
MReyn24050
5th May 2006, 14:49
OK Clint Let me go for the SAAB JA 37 Viggen
Mel
Mr_Grubby
5th May 2006, 15:02
Correct, Mel.
MReyn24050
5th May 2006, 15:52
Thank you Clint.
Unfortunately this photograph is not as clear as your one, however I am sure it will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz83.jpg[/IMG]
This was a British Aircraft mid 30s
Cricket23
5th May 2006, 22:04
...my first post on here, so no laughing now!
How about a De Havilland D.H.84 Dragon?
C23
MReyn24050
5th May 2006, 22:16
Cricket23
Welcome to the thread. Nobody will be laughing at all. Sorry but it is not a De Havilland D.H.84 Dragon. This particular aircraft was not so famous.
Mel
Cricket23
5th May 2006, 22:41
thanks MReyn24050. I'll have to put on my thinking cap. I'm a bit stumped at the mo'
C23
MReyn24050
5th May 2006, 22:48
No problem C23. This was a very unique aircraft.
Bit doubtful about this, but is it the Boulton Paul P.64/P.71 Mailplane?
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 06:08
Sorry 682al
Not the Boulton Paul P.64/P.71 Mailplane. This aircraft was not a Biplane.
Mel
green granite
6th May 2006, 14:44
Saunders-Roe
A.27?
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 15:22
green granite
Not the Saunders-Roe A.27. This aircraft was not flying-boat or a seaplane.
I will add that unfortunately this aircraft had an unlucky ending.
Mel
pigboat
6th May 2006, 16:42
Ok, time for a WAG. ANT-20 Maxim Gorkii. :D
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 17:24
No Pigboat this aircraft was British designed and built It first flew mid thirties.
Mel,
Time for another WAG. British, mid-30s, a one-off, with an unhappy ending..........
How about the Vickers type 271. Built I think, against the specification which resulted in the Wellington but a failure which had to be completely re-designed in order to become to become in a later guise the Wellington.
Any good?
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 17:54
BSD
No not the Vickers type 271. This aircraft featured a development of a revolutionary wing structure
However, you were correct in that the Vickers Type 271, the Prototype B9/32 K4049 and forerunner of the Wellington, met an unfortunate end when it crashed following the failure of the elevator horn balance during a test flight in April 1937. The pilot was thrown through the roof of the cockpit and escaped by parachute, but the flight engineer, unable to get free, was killed in the crash. The aeroplane was completely destroyed.
Mel
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 18:46
No sorry Mike not Miles Aircraft.
Mel
Mel,
My last attempt at this one - the Armstrong Whitworth AW 23. I think just a single aeroplane was built, it's wing being stressed skin with I think stainless steel spars/ribs.
It was a one-off which eventually became the Whitley.
Howzat?
If that's not it, then I'm truly stumped!
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 21:15
BSD
Not the AW 23. Spars or should I say a Spar does come into this, this aircraft possibly had a great future but unfortunately lady luck played a hand.
Mel
MReyn24050
6th May 2006, 22:05
This one seems to be causing problems due to its uniqueness perhaps. Possibly this might help.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpitquiz81a.jpg[/IMG]
pigboat
6th May 2006, 23:15
Good Lord, not an attractive beast, is it? :eek:
Kieron Kirk
7th May 2006, 07:47
A Monospar whose title I cannot recall. Did it not end up on a reef out of fuel off the Timor coast?
Kieron Kirk
7th May 2006, 08:13
GAL ST.18 Croydon .
Ran out of fuel and landed on a reef 7th October 1936.
MReyn24050
7th May 2006, 08:35
Kieron Kirk
It certainly is the cockpit of General Aviation’s Monospar ST-18 Croydon :ok: which met a sad end after making a false landing on the hard coral of Seringapatam Reef, 175 miles off the N.W. coast of Australia. The aircraft was returning to the UK from Australia in October 1936 but failed to make landfall across the Timor Sea due to a compass error. The aircraft was abandoned, the crew were saved by a local fishing boat.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/MonosparST-18Croydon.jpg
The last photograph taken of the Croydon shortly before the tide claimed it for ever. Note the tail wheel broken off.
You have control :)
Mel
Kieron Kirk
7th May 2006, 09:49
http://http://www.zap16.com/aviodrome/ad08-04%20Cockpit%20Hawker%20Hunter%202.jpg
A nice easy one. Not far from where I live. Checked the previous listings so it should not have been posted before.
Here's hoping it will post alright.
My first attempt at posting an image.
It did not work, could somebody else take the next image.
I shall try again later.
treadigraph
7th May 2006, 10:52
http://www.zap16.com/aviodrome/ad08-04%20Cockpit%20Hawker%20Hunter%202.jpg
Here's your pic Kieron, "http://" appeared twice in the address for some reason...
Chiz
Treadders
MReyn24050
7th May 2006, 11:44
Kieron Kirk
Hawker Hunter.
Unfortunately you included the aircraft's name in the File Reference. When pasting in the file as Teadders stated the file's http// was included make sure next time you review the file data and delete the extra http//. Please try another challenge.:). :ok:
Mel
Kieron check your PMs
jabberwok
7th May 2006, 11:45
Monospar ST-18 Croydon which met a sad end after making a forced landing on the hard coral of Seringapatam Reef
Funny how memory plays tricks because I was sure it was a Q6 involved in that episode..
What you didn't mention was that this reef is submerged for most of its life and that unusual tidal conditions had exposed it for a brief window allowing the Croydon to land. Add the fortunate presence of the boat and the crew were extremely lucky indeed.
MReyn24050
7th May 2006, 12:00
jabberwok
As you quite rightly say, the Seringapatam Reef was normally under water and they had the good fortune to find it during a period of neap tides- and at low water. Later that day apparently it was under three feet of water, a week later it would have been immersed under a maximum of 14ft of sea. The story has it that the crew had a collapsible boat on board and paddled off to the fishing boat which as you say was fortunately near by.
Perhaps to this day near that far-off reef lie two coral encrusted Pratt & Whitney Wasp Juniors-last mortal remains of that ill fated aircraft.
Mel
foxmoth
7th May 2006, 12:07
Also I would say luck to find a reef that was "landable" - most I would have thought would remove more than the tailwheel:uhoh:
jabberwok
7th May 2006, 17:26
Also I would say luck to find a reef that was "landable" - most I would have thought would remove more than the tailwheel
In a way yes, but I think it very sad to see a fully functioning (almost) aircraft waiting to be claimed by the sea. Had it suffered a gear collapse or other non fatal damage it woluld not have been so poignant.