What Cockpit ?

[Tiger_mate]

Whatever it is, the leather seat pack may look very nice, but would you want to pass that yoke in an ejection situation? Looks like some very badly hurt legs looking for a time and place to me.

[forget]

Well I know of at least one guy who ejected - and he didn't end up limping.

[Tiger_mate]

PS

Modified? F104 Starfighter

[forget]

Not a Starfighter - but (sort of) related.

[cringe]

To add to the confusion, cockpit of a Tu-95MR:

http://www.aeronautics.ru/tupolev/tu95/tu-95mr_010_instrstat.jpg

[Tiger_mate]

Lockheed U2

Cockpit Internal Overview
Taken from U-2R 80-1088, this overview of the instrument panels provides plenty of information regarding the painting of the cockpit. Note the cockpit is Dark Gull Gray (F.S.36231) with black instruments.


Ejection Seat
Also taken from U-2R 80-1088, this picture provides color reference for the U-2 ejection seat. The basic seat is black. The lower cushion appears to be black leather. The rear cushion is a green/gray nylon looking material with silver/gray harnesses and a red headrest.

[forget]

U2R it is. :ok: Cockpit photograph by Jim Rotramel. Welcome back Cringe

[Hanse Cronje]

http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/Jet%20Fighters/F-106A%20Delta%20Dart6.JPG

[mfaff]

F106...for a both hands on the stick approach....

[forget]

Delta Dagger...................?

[Hanse Cronje]

Correct! And one morehttp://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0503/b5295a8458953f7ff691.jpeg

[mfaff]

looks like a B-2.....

[forget]

Here's a clue...........

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/Untitled-156.jpg

[Gainesy]

The Tu-95MS pic that I posted was taken by me, en-route Dyagilevo AB- RAF Fairford, 21 July 1993. A tad noisier than a Shack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Gainesy/BearF3s.jpg

[Tarnished]

I'm awake now thanks but wish I was still asleep, I'm confused.

The F102/106 Delta Dagger/Dart is pretty certain.

The big glass cockpit is the Osprey V-22 XV-22 or whatever, fantastic thing to watch it doing its "Transformers - Robots in Disguise" thing to stow itself away.

I'll keep my goes in the bag just now until I sort my inbox and do some work!

Tarnished

[Hanse Cronje]

Sorry Tarnished but it is not an Osprey.....

[Tarnished]

Back to sleep for me then.....

Merlin?

[Gainesy]

EH-101 Merlin perchance?

[Hanse Cronje]

Again, close but ultimately no cigar....or brandy

[effortless]

Cor It's just like the shuttle in there:}

[PPRuNe Radar]

Eurocopter NH90

Looks like a disco in there ;)

Next

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/woosh1.jpg

[effortless]

Bolleaux I think you are right!

[Gainesy]

That Gulfstream modified for Shuttle approach training?

[PPRuNe Radar]

mmm, if I was a pedant I would ask what kind of Gulfstream ;) ... but yep, that's it. The Gulfstream 2 - C11A STA (Shuttle Training Aircraft)

[effortless]

AW c'mon I was close:}

[Gainesy]

Dead easy one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Gainesy/AAR.jpg

[Gainesy]

Close, but no coconut. Extra smartie points for IDing the tanker.

[PPRuNe Radar]

CH or MH53 refuelling from C123 Provider tanker

[forget]

CH-53D Sea Stallion

[Gainesy]

As its nearly beer o'clock and you're all almost there, its an HH-53E Stallion and an HC-130 from the 67th ARRS at Woodbridge in 1980. Nickname Super Jolly Green (actually the callsign was Jolly XX)

Time for Tarnished to dig about the archives at work?

[forget]

Tarnished'll be down the White Elephant. No one works in Fut Wuth on a Friday.

[Tiger_mate]

As I got the U2, here is one
http://www.artistic.flyer.co.uk/NoCheatinNow.jpg

[PPRuNe Radar]

Canberra of some kind. Need to work out the Mark now ;)

B2 maybe ??

[Tiger_mate]

Mk 62 it is; well done Mike, "you have control"

pROMPTED BY THE SAD DEMISE OF 2 X T4 at the schoolof excellence today. A sad sight seeing the mortal remains cruise past my fron door on the back of an articulated truck.

At least 3 x Jaguar T birds have shared the same fate this week :{

Obviously not enough Air Museums for them to have had a more dignified retirement.

[Tarnished]

No White Elephant today, its only every second friday we get off! Next week then maybe.

Right going to try a maths puzzle.

Start with this number

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/penric/f100d.jpg

then subtract this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/penric/xb70.jpg

and then add this number

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/penric/v-22.jpg

Now the question is how many engines the answer should have?

Enjoy, no cheating, no calculators, slide rules are allowed.

Tarnished

As I don't know how to change the file name without loosing the picture link I'm going to have to trust you.

[Trumpet_trousers]

8?
(Hi y'all!)

[PPRuNe Radar]

8 engines I get as well (B52) but MJ's has me stumped.

The control column type I've seen on a few other aircraft but can't pin this cockpit layout down :(

[forget]

...................this'll stuff 'em.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/85747.jpg

[cringe]

Mike's: X-15 ?

[cringe]

Okay, let's see if anyone finds this familiar:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk3.jpg

[forget]

This aircraft may be a lot later than first appearances. The instrument panel actually looks as if it was planned from the start, and the Attitude Indicator appears to be fairly sophisticated.

I'd say mid fifties - at the earliest.

[Tiger_mate]

This is a Varsity cockpit introduced in 1951, I would suggest that this is decades more advanced than the challenge.

http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow05/newarkday/wf369.jpg

I reckon on a first generation (enclosed cockpit) twin engined airliner, probably middle thirties. I have been through the imperial airways webpages and am yet to find a suitable candidate.

[4Screwaircrew]

Airspeed Consul ?

[BEagle]

Definitely not a Consul.

[forget]

What's bothering me on this one is the 'apparent' vintage. The metal-work appears to be 30's - but the instrument panel appears to be much later. When did you first see a two-tone AH - sky and ground? Come on - tell me, and I may change my tack.

[RJM]

From the seats and the flimsy-looking tubular frame, I'd say one of the very rare flying Renault R4's. Probably the one with the big (1108cc) engine.

[cringe]

Sorry folks for the delay. Tiger_mate is spot on, it's a mid-thirties design. Many examples were built, with Renault engines.

[Mr_Grubby]

Caudron C445 Goeland ?

Clint.

[Gainesy]

Flamant? I understand that was designed in the late 30s but didn't go to production until after the war. Erm, I think.

[cringe]

Clint is right. Well done! It was a C445. The aircraft on the photo also saw service with the Luftwaffe.

[Mr_Grubby]

Just a lucky guess !
Over to someone else.
I would like to know however, what forgets back garden contraption is all about ?

Clint.

[cringe]

Hey, luck was involved in all my guesses. Here's a quick one to perhaps decide who's next:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk4.jpg

[forget]

Back garden contraption! Some thirty years ago that 'contraption' introduced my young sons to aviation. It was instrumental in causing them to choose a career elsewhere.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/A928262.jpg

[Tarnished]

I think Cringe has given us an AV8B.

I think its also a test or development aircraft

Pretty sure thats a ****** stick top, could be an F-18E/F is suppose.

T

[Tiger_mate]

I bet a few quality hours were accumulated in that blue crate.

[forget]

A few quality hours? Certainly were Tiger_mate. Now and again we'd let the kids in.

I'm going for F-117B.

[cringe]

It is indeed a prototype. Neither F-18 nor F-117 though.

[cringe]

Not an F-35 either. Sorry.

[Trumpet_trousers]

Saab JAS39 Gripen

[cringe]

Nope, not a Gripen.

[Tiger_mate]

Typhoon family pedigree

EFA
Eurofighter
Typhoon

[cringe]

Not of that pedigree, no.

[cringe]

F-22 is wrong too. Think international.

[Tarnished]

X-31?

You didn't discount my AV 8B along with the F-18 EF

Anybody else tried typing a nick name for the St Loius base hamburger company and got the asterisks???

Tarnished

[cringe]

Apologies Tarnished, it's not the AV-8B. Nor X-31.

Mike, negative on both counts.

Unfortunately the type we're looking for wasn't very successful.

[forget]

We're heading for a 'westernised' Russian machine here.

[cringe]

Nah, it's not Russian.

Hint: After the original project failed, the design was sold to another country.

[Tiger_mate]

Kfir

Mirage 5 by another name

[cringe]

Not Kfir, but you're close!

[Tiger_mate]

Lavi then, odd looking machine, Sydney Camm wouldnt approve

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aigledefer/Images/Avions/LAVI/lavi_profil_2.jpg

Try this one for the next:

http://www.artistic.flyer.co.uk/CPIT.jpg

[cringe]

Yes, Lavi is correct! Its blueprints were sold to the Chinese and used in the CAC J-10.

[RJM]

Tiger_Mate the cockpit pic you posted with the Lavi is very small and isn't enlargeable. Not that enlarging it would help in my case!

[Tiger_mate]

Replaced it, same aircraft larger pic.

[forget]

Cessna T-37.......................?

[cringe]

Saab 105 ?

[Background Noise]

SK60 (is that 15 characters?)

[Tiger_mate]

I have been out for the day, sorry about the delay:

Cringe has control; a Saab 105 it was.

[cringe]

Please, someone else have a go this time.

[forget]

C'mon Cringe. You're the one with the odd-ball photographs.

[Mr_Grubby]

Try this, shouldn't be too difficult.

Clint.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/Image3.jpg

[cringe]

B-24 Liberator ?

[Mr_Grubby]

Spot on cringe ! Well done.

Clint.

[cringe]

Here's my next entry (living up to forget's last comment :D):

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk5.jpg

[Trumpet_trousers]

BAC 1-11?..................................(15 characters!)

[cringe]

No, it's not a BAC 1-11.

[diginagain]

cringe, are those CRTs in front of the Captains seat?

They'd make it a little more modern than the 1-11, wouldn't they?

Or are they just missing instruments?

[forget]

Hmm. I’d say (pretty obvious) it’s not public transport certified and it’s not development of a Mk-II Whatever, too tidy and ‘finished’ for that.

The yokes aren’t Boeing - or Airbus. Left side there’s a General Aviation OBS on the panel - odd, but may indicate that some ‘fine-tuned’ lateral steering is required, possibly input from a third crew member.

Why two MFDU’s on the left? Probably dedicated to Nav and, possibly, FLIR.

I’d be looking at an aircraft ‘modified’ for Maritime Patrol - but what? Then again, how wrong can you be?

[cringe]

Yes, it's a modification. Original layout on the right.

[Vacant Towers]

Possibly Dash 8 or one of those Dornier thingies ??

VT

[cringe]

Not a Dornier nor a Dash 8. Maybe this can help:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk5a.jpg

[forget]

Buran Simulator.

[cringe]

It's a flying simulator, that part is correct.

[cringe]

No, not a Gulfstream either.

[forget]

Just a shot in the dark..................In-Flight Simulator VFW 614 ATTAS. The Advanced Technologies Testing Aircraft System ATTAS, a unique flying simulator and demonstrator aircraft which was used primarily for DLR's research in the fields of flight control, flight guidance, flying qualities, and man-machine interfacing. The forerunner, the HFB 320 In-Flight Simulator (1972 - 1984), laid the basis for the ATTAS development at DLR which took place from 1981 to 1986 together with MBB in Bremen as the main contractor. The project was supported by the German Ministry of Research and Technology.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/559166.jpg

[cringe]

You got it, forget. Well done.

It was the experimental version of the VFW-Fokker VFW-614, which failed as an airliner. The aircraft from the cocpit pic:

http://www.vfw614.de/gallery/attasfl2a.jpg

Over to you.

[forget]

Here you are - with a huge clue as to origin.............and the clue is..............? Incidentally, how did the VFW-614 handle blade containment?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/1HA10.jpg

[Tiger_mate]

Its a Sunderland flying boat:

Sandringhams count as a Sunderland!

I think that this is the Kermit Weeks one :ok:

[Saab Dastard]

Tell me those aren't cup-holders on the top rear of the throttle quadrant... ;)

There's a fascinating book by Sir Gordon Taylor called "Bird of the Islands" in which he describes flying an ex-BOAC Sandringham around the South Pacific. Nice!

SD

[forget]

:ok: Sunderland/Sandringham it is. 2001 at the Southampton Hall of Aviation. The huge clue as to origin........the 'Airscrews' placard at the rear of the throtle quadrant. Photos from www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/history.html Nice site.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/01SHA02.jpg

[Tiger_mate]

I have done a few already, anybody else want to have a go?

[JDK]

For an 'istoric forum there's been a lot of wot I'd regard as modern aryplanes shown. I'm told that airliner's mothers can tell their flightecks aphart, but I cant.

Here's an easy(ish) one while I find a fieldish jobbie I have in mind to try.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Mystery2.jpg

[simon niceguy]

Miles Magister ???

S.

[Tiger_mate]

The cockpit shares a very similar layout to Tiger Moths, all of which seem to have differant layouts. However with the leather and green exterior, I am going to vote for the Avro Tutor.

http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/shuttleworthjune05/img_2292.jpg

[JDK]

Tiger mate is correk.

You may note the end of the Old Warden address on the top centre little brass panel (if you use your imagination) and I like a dial that says 'Oil, Bless' :} )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/TutorCpit.jpg

I raise my hand and solemnly promise not to do any more single-engined Avro trainers in this quiz. :p

OK,
It's not my go, but I thought I'd divert the thread from the way of too many dials onto the path of single brass plunger and true stick n rudder skills.

Photos by me, taken in 2002, extra points for the museum the (rare) a/c is in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/PuzzleCockpit1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/PuzzleCockpit2.jpg

[Onan the Clumsy]

Judging by the offset windshield and the obvious nautical aspect, I'd have to say...































...Sea Vixen :}

[PPRuNe Radar]

Supermarine Southampton ??

[JDK]

Sea Vixen...

Well, no, but you aren't surprised, are you?

Southampton?

No. Even the Southampton's got more instruments.

Told you it was tough. None of you massed dials and CRTs here...

[Mr_Grubby]

JDK,
Tough one this.
Is it Saunders Roe or Italian ?

Clint.

[Bus429]

Is it a Blackburn B2?

[PPRuNe Radar]

Still stumped here ... after scouring Caproni's, Curtiss's, Saro's, Supermarine's, Felixstowe's, etc, etc. I think I need more clues :{

[aerobelly]

The lack of controls and the lack of instruments suggests it could be a glider of some sort.....
... but there I run out of ideas.

A'B

[Saab Dastard]

aerobelly - I think that there is a fuel system, given the copper piping and the plunger, plus the levers on the port side look as if they could be throttle & mixture controls...

At least I would be worried if they were my trimmer and airbrakes on a glider!

Also it looks as if there WERE some more instruments - there's at least a couple of likely-looking holes in the "panel".

Is it in the UK?

One of Short Bros?

[aerobelly]

Well I'd speculate that the piping is from the pitot, and that the plunger/pump (is that a pressure gauge next to it?) is for the u/c. Assume that the missing instuments are airspeed and attitude (could just be turn and bank), and that's about what you'd need for a non-soaring glider. Controls? Stick, rudder, release tow, drop u/c, either flaps or air-brake. That matches what we can see.

It's what we can't see that shoots my theory down.

A'B.

[sycamore]

Well.I think it`s something pre-`14-18 war,judging by the air-ventilated seat, probable fuel tank pressurisation pump and two levers for air and fuel, probably rotary, and as they disappear upwards, likely to be a pusher (cables-not push-pull-rods). Which may make it a `Longhorn` or a Vickers `Gunbus`, or something of that era,,,or maybe not!!!!!!

[JDK]

Thought we had a bunch of modern fliers here, and a lack of real stiknruda men. :) Take away all that glass and replace it with a bare bones plane and no-more "it's an ATR-42B with widget spong attachment." No!

Well, that's not really fair as it is a toughy. :p

Some answers containing some clues:

MrG. - neither Sanders Roe (it's too early) nor Italian.

Bus429. - Tsk, tsk. The Blackburn B-2 is famously an 'all metal' (apart from the fabric wing covering :} ) design, so as it's a wooden a/c, no. Also the B-2 is a lot later.

Mike J. - No, completely wrong, but good logic. One of your thoughts is correct, but not the location or the aircraft, so you must have the type right.

PruneRadar - see the other answers and you haven't hit the right country yet.

Aerobelly - Not a glider, unles the engine fails.

Saab Dastard's work is right, up to the point where we guess at the country and maker, both of which are wrong. :p

So aerobelly's next post is founded on a couple of incorrect premises, one it's a glider (it aint) and the second that it might have a retractable undercarriage. Aircraft of this period are famous for their non-retractable undercarriages, and lack of brakes, and this one doesn't have wheels either, because it don't need 'em. (Nor a skid.)

Sycamore's doing as well, but it's not a rotary, it is a pusher, but it's not British and it's not a pre-War example as it's in military colours. Syks other guesses are bang on.

Clues. It's in Europe, not Germany, nor France, Britain or Italy. It's a biplane, no wheels, no skid. It did have instruments (now missing). It's got rudder stripes for its country's air force of the period, one colour being black. :E

[diginagain]

So, is it a seaplane, once in service with the Belgian military?

[PPRuNe Radar]

'Kin hell .. that was hard.

Schreck FBA.H in the Belgique Musée Royal de l'Armée et d'Histoire Militaire. :)

[Saab Dastard]

There is a gorgeous wooden flying boat of a similar (or earlier?) vintage in (I think) the RAF museum at Hendon - anyone jog my memory for the name?

[PPRuNe Radar]

It might be their Supermarine Southampton. Fuselage only, no wings or engines.

Hendon (http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/collections/aircraft/aircraft_info.cfm?aircraft_id=104)

Guess we can't use this one in the competition now ;)

Southampton cockpit (http://www.airventure.de/hendon/hendon04_southampton1_01.jpg)

Hopefully not quite as tricky as the last one !!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/b29.jpg

[diginagain]

From a purely ergonomic viewpoint, it must surely be British, what with having a really good layout.:ok:

[JDK]

sorry

Me410, ex St Athan, now Cosford.

[PPRuNe Radar]

Jahwohl JDK !!! :)

[JDK]

PPruneRadar is Correk, with an able assist by diginagain.

Well done chaps. And there's a lot harder in the Museum - I coul'dve been eaven meaner!

This is wot it looks like:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Hydro1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Hydro2.jpg

Goody. My go!

OK, lotsa dials for the bus driver brigade. As I\'ve fiercely cropped the pic, there\'s a clue in that it\'s a twin and dual control type.

Off we go!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Mystery4.jpg

[Bus429]

An HP product? Perhaps a Herald?

[JDK]

Hi Bus,

Saucy!

No. :D

[Vacant Towers]

I've never seen one, but how about a Mossie, and what's the U/c seen through the windsreen ???

VT

[jindabyne]

Possibly a Dove??

[Vacant Towers]

Jinda, if it was a Dove, wouldn't we be able to hear the belching and wheezing of the brake system???

VT

[diginagain]

Pembroke/Sea Prince?

[forget]

Freddy Laker's Aviation Trader's Accountant.......

................and the U/C through the window - Piston Provost.

[JDK]

diginagain is correct!

The interior of Air Atlantique Classic Flight's machine (which you can go for a flight in too...)

This type has a different undercarriage setup to 'normal' - anyone?

The undercarriage through the window, not surprisingly for the grass at AA Coventry, features a Dak (for shame misidentifiers) which is cropped so, because its the example with the huge radar bulge on the underside - a unique machine and a dead givaway.

Digin's call.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/JDKPe001.jpg

[diginagain]

.........but since I'm (supposedly) at work, resources are a little thin on the ground.

If someone else has a suitable picture, I promise not to play for at least 12 hours - I'm just going off watch!

BTW, great thread. keep it up.

dig.

[JDK]

OK, here's one to be getting along with, then I too will duck out for a while!

A real aryplane, passangers, red, open cockpit, pleasure flights available...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Mystery8.jpg

[cringe]

Is it a Super Waco?

[Saab Dastard]

MJ - I'm pretty sure the Pitts has an enclosed cockpit with a canopy.

I'm sure Cringe is right - that bevelled panel is a giveaway!

[effortless]

looks like a stearman to me but for the front screen.

[JDK]

Cringe is close, but I'm looking for letters - and it's not registered as a Waco.

It's a three seater: 'passengers' is a clue.

You can have a go if you like though!

[cringe]

YMF-F5C ?

[JDK]

It's Cringe's. :)

Manufacturer: CLASSIC AIRCRAFT CORP
Model: YMF
Reg: VH-MLX

[barit1]

This is only a test. (Don't blame me for the image - it's an original brochure shot)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/barit1/p51agd.jpg

[Saab Dastard]

Looks like one of Gerry Anderson's creations :D

Stingray? ;)

[barit1]

I'll let another guess or two fall off the edge before I tell you the background view - which may be a clue.

[Tim Inder]

Looks very DeHavilland to me.

DH 95 Flamingo?

[barit1]

The background is Chicago Midway Field c.1940. Right outside the final assembly hangar.

[henry crun]

A Stinson Trimotor, or is 1940 a tad late for one of those ?

[JDK]

Cooo. I admit to being baffled, even with the clue. I'd go for US (I'd have said 1930s, so later than I thought) single engined (not enough widgets for multiple) radial, (cos they din't do anything else really)... But then the brane stop.

[effortless]

Lockheed Vega perhaps?

[barit1]

It's one of these:http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/barit1/thext-1.jpg

(Not too many across the pond!)

Another clue (from spotter's corner):

There was once a Bendix Trophy racer who flew halfway across the US with flaps 15 (takeoff position) - and won in spite of it!

[effortless]

Still looks like a Vega to me.

[barit1]

OK - just so you don't lose any more sleep: It's the Howard DGA-15. Derived from Benny Howard's "Mister Mulligan" (DGA-6) racer, which is the only airplane in racing history to take first place in both the Bendix (cross-country) and Thompson (closed-course) races. And did both in the same year - 1935.

Extra points if you know what DGA stands for. (You'll find it in JB)

[Onan the Clumsy]

Damn Good Airplane (without looking it up) :ok:

[barit1]

Clumsy never ceases to amaze! :uhoh:

effortless, the Vega had only a single pilot, a cantilever wing, and more rounded fin. It was also a decade earlier.

[henry crun]

It is not my turn but to keep the thread alive try this one.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/crun9/pitcock.jpg

[BEagle]

Comme elle est beau......;)

[henry crun]

Damn, that was obviously too easy, maybe this one will be as well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/crun9/pitf.jpg

[BEagle]

Tempest?

[PPRuNe Pop]

Do I detect two people with the same book? :D :D

Anyway, its a great thread.


PPP

[henry crun]

Not a Tempest.........

[Mr_Grubby]

Typhoon.

Clint.

[John Farley]

I could not resist this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/johnfarley/Instpanel.jpg

Sorry BEags....

[forget]

If I didn't know better I'd say that was a Vulcan stick and pedal adjust - with Smiths instruments a la Trident. Can't be.

[mcdhu]

No - Trident had V-bars, but I know that ASI from other British ac. The rather steep coaming cut off is peculiar. Beagle Bassett (206) perhaps?

[forget]

Trident 3 here, and not V bars.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/trident.jpg

.....and a bit of Vulcan....

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/V1.jpg

[henry crun]

Not a Typhoon Mr_Grubby, though you and Beagle are getting close.

There are a few still flying.

[BEagle]

OK - Sea Fury then!

The Vulcanistic flight deck is weird........

[mcdhu]

OK then - what about the ETPS Bassett 'fiddled' for handling experiments?

[John Farley]

Chaps

Not fair really. It was the Aero Flight Vulcan used in 1965 to develop the Concorde TOD laws. It did indeed use the Trident instruments to make those guys feel more at home in it.

JF

[BEagle]

I reckoned it was some Vulcan test bed; it was post-MFS era but the actual a/c was a mystery indeed!

[henry crun]

Sea Fury it is, I thought the GGS might be a strong clue.

[forget]

Quote - If I didn't know better I'd say that was a Vulcan stick and pedal adjust - with Smiths instruments a la Trident. Can't be.

Vulcan stick - Trident Instruments. Yep, I'm happy with that!:O

[BEagle]

To keep the bureaucrats happy, I once acted as 'brake man' for Bradders' Fury ISS early one cold wet morning when we moved it from Southampton Docks to the airport. It had the wings removed for the journey, but the sight of the aeroplane being towed around the raods of Southampton must have been quite a sight! As we proceded along one stretch, I couldn't resist winding back the hood and asking some gent out buying his morning papers "Are we right for the airport?".

But it didn't have a standard instrument panel, IIRC.

An odd one:


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/25Oct.jpg

[forget]

Northrop......errrr.

[JDK]

Is big white paper aeryplane. Two built, one collision with an F-104, one left...

But I've had enough goes so someone else can finish it...

[BEagle]

Not the XB-70 (which is what JDK referred to)....

[JDK]

That must've been my 'orse 'ubris wot I jus' fell orf. :\

[barit1]

Concordski - Tupelov 144

[BEagle]

Niet!

Much older than that.

Someone got the right manufacturer, but needs to be more specific!

[Another St Ivian]

Northrop XB-35?

[BEagle]

TaDa! Give that chap a coconut:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/XB-35.jpg

The flight deck piccie showed the co-pilots seat in the leading edge - the pilot sat up higher in the canopy. By all accounts, the crew accommodation was very generous.

[Mr_Grubby]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/Image2.jpg


OK I know it's not my turn but I was mins after Another St. I. in saying XB -35. Honest guv !!
This is easy. I've covered up the callsign to stop you lot cheating !!


Clint.

[Another St Ivian]

Er.... I even had one lined up (http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/randomcockpit.jpg) and all.

*Goes off to sulk in a corner*

Auster 5?

[Mr_Grubby]

Sorry, I won't jump the Q again !!!
When this goes, I will leave it to you.

Clint.

No, it\'s not an Auster 5.

[Another St Ivian]

Auster AOP?

Fifteen characters....

[Mr_Grubby]

No, not an AOP.
Not an Auster.


Clint.

[simon niceguy]

Could it be a Piper Cub ?

[treadigraph]

I don't think it's a Cub, but I was thinking Piper Cruiser, Pacer, Vagabond or similar?

[Mr_Grubby]

Not a Piper.
Think British, that should give it away !!


Clint.

[treadigraph]

Airedale?

(plus the usual extra characters)

[Mr_Grubby]

Getting very warm Treaders !!

Clint.

[cringe]

Beagle A-61 Terrier

[effortless]

Beagle 218 maybe. don't remember the cockpit but it's the right era I think.

[treadigraph]

Nah, I've got all the windows open...

You said it wasn't an Auster, so it's not the Atlantic (which was only muck up anyway - I think Cringe has it!

[Mr_Grubby]

Cringe.

Well done sir.
Twas Terrier G-ASCD.

This picture taken en route Blackbush to Sleap in 1971. During my 32 years as an ATCO I was responsible for many near misses. Most my fault. However on this trip whilst working Brize radar we had a close encounter with a VC 10. Very close. We heard its engines as it went past.
Great days !

Over to you and Another St Ivian.

Clint.

[forget]

Cringe. Well done - Ma'am.

[cringe]

Thanks. Treadigraph's guess was a big help. Since it's really Another St Ivian's turn, here's the mystery cockpit from his yesterday's post:

http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/randomcockpit.jpg

[JDK]

Grumman Ironworks Turkycat.

Or TBM

or TBF

or Tarpon (oops - winner of worst name award)

or Avenger

[Mr_Grubby]

Cringe.

Just to drift off thread for one post, are you a sir or a Ma'am ?
I called you a sir. forget called you a Ma'am


Clint.

[Another St Ivian]

Grumman TBM3E Avenger it is.

Your turn, JDK.

[JDK]

Okydokey.
here's something a serious Proone ought to get quickly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/x.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Sorry about the poor quality but I am sure the experts will solve it in no time.http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpit.jpg

Sorry about that photograph failed to appear. Will have to investigate why the upload did not work. Thanks
Mel

It appears it did work. Computers?

[wub]

MReyn24050

Blackburn Beverley?

[MReyn24050]

WUB

Correct I said that even the quality would not stop the experts. Hopefully I will get the hang of attaching image files one day.

[LowNSlow]

JDK is that a Comper Swift?

[wub]

Cool, I got one :ok:

Try this

http://www.pbase.com/image/51396086.jpg

[JDK]

Not a Comper Swift. But there is a Comper where the subject aircraft lives.

Are we taking turns?

[treadigraph]

I'm confoosed, and I can't even see the pictures (while at work as ususal)!

Order, Order!

[MReyn24050]

WUB

Vicker's Vanguard I believe!

[Tim Inder]

JDK - Is yours the ANEC II?

[wub]

MReyn24050

Yep, well done. Actually it's a procedures trainer for Trans Canada Airlines and not a real cockpit, but hey....

[MReyn24050]

Try this one WUB, although I am sure you will get it as quickly as you got the last one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/cockpit2.jpg

[diginagain]

Very distinctive yokes, could it be the much loved and lamented Concorde?

[effortless]

Anec 11 at shuttleworth

[forget]

Canadair CL-44
:ok:

Probably the same one as the 10th October.

Whose go is it - really? Where's Cringe? What's the meaning of life?

[MReyn24050]

forget

Yes it was a CL-44, Serial No 16 Last Registered as 9G-CLA. Forgive me for posting yet another CL-44. I 'forgot' the one posted 10th October.

[JDK]

Tim Inder & Efortless are both correct, Tim first.

I'd suggest Tim has a go, but we seem to be running two quizes at the moment. Over to the flightdeck quiz then...

[effortless]

Well as it's the weekend and no one's around. here is a quick, silly one.
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/cockpit2.1.jpg

[BEagle]

Link Trainer!

[effortless]

Well I said that it was a silly one Beags. I forget that I'm not the oldest old fart here. :}

[prospector]

You must have heard the huffing and puffing a few times after a n error of manipulation that created a spin to recognize that occidental piece of torture equipment so fast.

Prospector

[forget]

Beags is probably down at Tescos so I'll stick this up on his behalf

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/556677.jpg

[Gainesy]

DH Vampire trainer?

[forget]

..............'fraid not.

[BEagle]

Tesco? Purrleeeze.... I was in Waitrose!

Avro 707C.

[forget]

Avro 707C it is .
:ok:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/180e.jpg

[BEagle]

It was obviously British, single engined, 2 seat side-by-side and fitted with boffin bits.

Wasn't a Hunter, wasn't a Vampire - the only other one it could possibly have been was the 707C!

Remember seeing them at Yeovilton Air Show in nineteen fifty something!

Tim Inder - your go!

As for the Link Trainer, I was one of the last JP courses to use the wheezing old things. But they were very good for learning IF! Although a mate of mine tried a run-in-and-break in one; it expired in an angry hiss of air as the motion bellows collapsed in protest!

[diginagain]

My old ATC Sqn, 152 (City of Hull) Sqn, for those interested, had most of the components of a Link Trainer. Despite the best efforts of the cadets and adults, we never did get it assembled, more's the pity.

Sorry, nostalgia-burst over.

[cringe]

Ditto to what Mike said. While we're waiting, here's (probably) an easy one:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk6.jpg

[Tim Inder]

Coming.... hard day at work, and realised I need to setup a photobucket acct.... doh!

cringe, is it German?

Will this all get TOO confusing, having 2 on the go?

I have one, but I\'ll wait until this gets solved...

[cringe]

Correct Tim, it's German. Sorry for jumping the queue.

[Mr_Grubby]

Komet ?

Clint.

[cringe]

Spot on, Clint!

PS: To answer your aside from a few days ago, forget was right.

Tim, over to you now.

[Tim Inder]

Ok, here goes:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/timinder/album_pic1.jpg
Not too hard, I don't think!

[India Four Two]

Single seat, spade grip, twin engines - DH Hornet?

[Tim Inder]

Single seat, spade grip, twin engines - DH Hornet?



Single seat - Yes
Spade grip - Yes
Twin engines - Yes
DH Hornet - No

;)

[henry crun]

An even longer shot........Brigand.

[cringe]

Mike, I think you better start looking for a replacement pic, because your Whirlwind appears to be correct. Of course Tim will have the final say on this.

[Tim Inder]

Well done Mike, if I'd been a bit more on the ball, you could've used the Brigand after all!

Standing by for your "evil one"...

[Mr_Grubby]

Correct Mike, this is evil.

If it is a twin, which I am not convinced it is, but for the row of switches on the right hand side, a shot in the dark, a Czech Aero 145 which is in the Budapest museum.


Clint.

[Tim Inder]

Blimey!

Err, not an outright guess, but:
Wooden construction
Russian (possibly?)
Pre-WW2 designed
That black box reminds me of something, but I'm not sure what...

Can't find any cockpit photos to compare it with, but I'm going for the Polikarpov I-153 photo at Wanaka?

[Tim Inder]

Mike, I was compiling my guess as you posted your clues, but decided to leave it even though it's obviously NOT Russian!

[Bert Stiles]

It's Kermit Weeks' Lockheed Vega At Polk City

- but I'll throw it to the pack to continue.

BS.

[forget]

Quickie. Gap filler -

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/96875.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

Looks like single engine.
The panel on the right looks like a door.
Could it be a Bell P-39 Aircobra ?

Clint.

[forget]

Oh alright. A Very quickie, a Very small gap filler

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/airacobra.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

forget.
Sorry.
Over to someone else !


Clint.

[henry crun]

Another quickie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/crun9/easy.jpg

[Tim Inder]

Vought F4U Corsair?

[LOMCEVAK]

The only aircraft I know of with a flap lever like that is the Corsair - F4U-1 or FG1-D?

[henry crun]

Corsair it is, told you it was a quickie :D

[Tim Inder]

Ok, try this one...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/timinder/082c9d4a.jpg