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Old 26th Jun 2023, 18:12
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
No - extensive programme out of AMS at least
also Brussels has a long haul program too
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Old 26th Jun 2023, 19:26
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Originally Posted by SJL26779
also Brussels has a long haul program too
Ah yes, I had seen TUI 767ís at AMS last year, wasnít aware of TUI in Belgium though.
Given that the UK arm has the biggest fleet overall, no surprise they are probably the worse performing in terms of technical issues etc.
But itís a shame the Dreamliners are ageing so quick, both inside and out!
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Old 26th Jun 2023, 20:43
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Originally Posted by MANFAN
Ah yes, I had seen TUI 767ís at AMS last year, wasnít aware of TUI in Belgium though.
Given that the UK arm has the biggest fleet overall, no surprise they are probably the worse performing in terms of technical issues etc.
But itís a shame the Dreamliners are ageing so quick, both inside and out!
The internet is your friend... TUI fly Nordic have long haul in the winter and in the recent past TUI fly Germany has operated on a transferred UK 787.
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Old 26th Jun 2023, 20:45
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
Something you clearly know very very little about
How so. Please enlighten me, or are you ignorant to the facts and the current issues they are creating so far this summer season?
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Old 26th Jun 2023, 20:52
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
How so. Please enlighten me, or are you ignorant to the facts and the current issues they are creating so far this summer season?
I've answered that in subsequent posts. If you have all the info maybe you should share yourself instead of making comments without backing up with facts?
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Old 26th Jun 2023, 21:13
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
The internet is your friend... TUI fly Nordic have long haul in the winter and in the recent past TUI fly Germany has operated on a transferred UK 787.
Could be wrong but I donít think the German 787 ops ever happened. Think it was planned pre-Covid but the 787s never ended up transferring in the end.
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Old 26th Jun 2023, 21:17
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Originally Posted by ROC10
Could be wrong but I donít think the German 787 ops ever happened. Think it was planned pre-Covid but the 787s never ended up transferring in the end.
Correct it never happened. It's only the Germans that don't have long haul ops, for now anyway.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
I've answered that in subsequent posts. If you have all the info maybe you should share yourself instead of making comments without backing up with facts?
So basically contradicting yourself then.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 10:37
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
So basically contradicting yourself then.
My last reply to you as it's becoming clear you're simply just trolling.

I haven't contradicted anything if you actually read properly. You made the statement along the lines of 'technical reliability of the 787 is shocking'

I said that that is factually incorrect. Yes there are issues within the fleet. Many of which I listed which are contributing to the current issues. But how much is purely down to the actual Technical despatch reliability? In my opinion not very much. The vast majority is down to poor planning, scheduling and a lack of downtime to catch up with scheduled maintenance.

I'm all ears if you have some actual facts or stats to back up your claims but as you've repeatedly not posted these then I strongly suspect you don't have any?
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 19:18
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
Yes you are correct they are tired. They desperately need a cabin overhaul and a paint (Although I think the issue with paint is there's few 787 approved paint sheds that have slots). But working them Day in day out. Yes they are a lot of work maintenance wise, but the TDR is way up there.

A lot of the problems TUI are facing are of their own doing, making the same mistakes as last year. Too tight a schedule, not enough downtime slots, maintenance normally done in winter is still being caught up with, not enough manpower, using the same absolute load of crap 3rd parties etc etc. The list could go on and on. Out on the front line it's like groundhog Day year.

Being the lumbering conservative company it is they'll probably realise their mistakes in a couple of years or so and dress it up in some fancy presentation as unforeseen circumstances.

The decision to not take the 787 was due to a forecast downturn in long haul. I'd suspect that the people in the operational teams would kill to have another -9 spare slack in the schedule. Again a typically TUI short sighted decision.
I suspect they are going to be in trouble in the not to distant future. Other airlines can see the pent up demand and growth on the horizon and have been ordering new aircraft to modernise/grow their fleet. What are they replacing those 3 767s with that are leaving the fleet this year? They should be growing their fleet let alone losing 3 and not taking 1 787. TUI are stuffed now and I wouldnít be surprised if Jet2 end up buying their UK business.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 20:46
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TUI are stuffed now and I wouldnít be surprised if Jet2 end up buying their UK business.
They may well want to but the UK competition authorities aren't about to allow a virtual monopoly in the UK market!
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Old 28th Jun 2023, 07:51
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G-VYGJ leased in for TUI for the remainder of S23? Looks like itís in for a paint job.
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Old 28th Jun 2023, 08:55
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Apparently in for maintenance at STS
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Old 28th Jun 2023, 09:25
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Newcastle

Forgive my ignorance but does TUI have a base in Newcastle? I do not think they do but I have just booked a Saturday flight to Verona next year and the flight departs at 6am! If so how many aircraft do they night stop there?
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Originally Posted by Robin757
Forgive my ignorance but does TUI have a base in Newcastle? I do not think they do but I have just booked a Saturday flight to Verona next year and the flight departs at 6am! If so how many aircraft do they night stop there?
They certainly do. 4 x 737s this year and possibly 5 next year? Along with a part-time 787 for long haul.
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Old 28th Jun 2023, 15:52
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Originally Posted by laviation
Apparently in for maintenance at STS
Yeah my apologies. Looks like could be a C check rather than going to TUI.
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Old 29th Jun 2023, 20:49
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Originally Posted by Robin757
Forgive my ignorance but does TUI have a base in Newcastle? I do not think they do but I have just booked a Saturday flight to Verona next year and the flight departs at 6am! If so how many aircraft do they night stop there?
Been a base here in some form for 60 years, Recently celebrated the milestone at NCL.

5x 738 next Summer + 787 6 days a week operating MLB CUN DLM AYT

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Old 30th Jun 2023, 18:10
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I have been told that Tui are hoping that some of the reliability of ACMI carriers will be less from tommorow (1st July) As they have the summer only crew that only work July until Mid September which should mean that they have to use less 3rd party carriers due to not having enough cabin crew
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Old 30th Jun 2023, 18:12
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Originally Posted by 737James
I have been told that Tui are hoping that some of the reliability of ACMI carriers will be less from tommorow (1st July) As they have the summer only crew that only work July until Mid September which should mean that they have to use less 3rd party carriers due to not having enough cabin crew
If thatís true, surely they need to re-think that and have all their own crew in place by May/June at the latest?
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Old 30th Jun 2023, 19:28
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If TUI do find themselves short of aircraft I’m wondering if they might look at consolidating some of there smaller bases into one? It’s already happened with long haul.
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