TUI airways-2

[double-oscar]

TUI does not help itself in having a lot of departures planned in a short space of time. For example, today at MAN four long-haul flights departing within 30 minutes. This might have worked pre-pandemic but at the moment staffing in many areas is not back up to pre-Covid levels. Handling agents are struggling to employ staff and when they do they take time to train. Likewise security channels at Manchester Airport are still not open like they were pre-pandemic and so at busy times queues can be long. It’s also not easy to alter the timings as these are often set months in advance and there can be significant knock on effects. Hopefully, as things get back to normal the situation will improve.

[LiamNCL]

Cant access the article as its behind a paywall but ch-aviation reports that

UK's TUI Airways to add ACMI B787 capacity from 2Q22

[CabinCrewe]

Not sure I understand. They will bring in ACMI capacity to supplement UK or the UK 787s will go elsewhere in an ACMI role..?

[CWL757]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

Not sure I understand. They will bring in ACMI capacity to supplement UK or the UK 787s will go elsewhere in an ACMI role..?

I was wondering the same thing, quite a poorly worded title.

I'd imagine its bringing it in for the summer, seeing that the fleet is usually quite stretched during the summer season. I dont know who has spare dreamliners hanging around in a similar config to TUIs though. Maybe Norse Atlantic?

[H44]

I'm not sure if the 787 capacity being added is ACMI, or 787's are being juggled around between the various TUI AOC's, eg. possibly moving the TUI Nordic Swedish registered 787 back to the UK reg. I have heard that there might be external widebody capacity being added, not sure if they will be 787's though.

[oldbalboy]

The ACMI 787 is being based at Manchester to support TUI flying & 2 x A321on ACMI to be at LGW

[Downwind_Left]

The only other airline I could think of other than TUI Nordic, which wouldn’t really be true ACMI, would be EuroAtlantic that are reportedly in the process of adding 2 787-8s from AeroMexico.

[sparkie320]

See TUI are using Sunwings this year after a very long period, good to see them back hope a good summer ahead
C-FJVE 10/5/22-3/10/22
C-FWGH 28/4/22-1/11/22
C-FYJD 28/4/22-1/11/22
C-GFEH 12/5/22-1/10/22

[P330]

Originally Posted by sparkie320

See TUI are using Sunwings this year after a very long period, good to see them back hope a good summer ahead
C-FJVE 10/5/22-3/10/22
C-FWGH 28/4/22-1/11/22
C-FYJD 28/4/22-1/11/22
C-GFEH 12/5/22-1/10/22

Do we know where they will be based?

[sparkie320]

Norwich, for sure as we dont have any TUI based here due to cost, Aberdeen Dublin or Belfast perhaps depending i guess on the schedule for these this summer
Mark

[2Planks]

Last Saturday, 26 Feb, there are numerous reports of queues in excess of 2 hours for TUI bag drop at Birmingham and long queues at Manchester, which led to delays in departure times at both airports. Is the handling by TUI or an agent and why was it such a surprise that so many skiers turned up to fly to the Alps?

[commit aviation]

WestJet takes over Canadian rival Sunwing | Travel Weekly

I wonder how this will affect the current relationship between Tui & Sunwing
"This will add increased capacity, dedicating otherwise seasonal aircraft to operate year-round in Canada, instead of Sunwing supplementing seasonal demand with imported aircraft."
Implies less aircraft needed in Canada during the winter. Nothing to indicate about summer traffic in the European direction.

[NickBarnes]

Originally Posted by commit aviation

WestJet takes over Canadian rival Sunwing | Travel Weekly

I wonder how this will affect the current relationship between Tui & Sunwing
"This will add increased capacity, dedicating otherwise seasonal aircraft to operate year-round in Canada, instead of Sunwing supplementing seasonal demand with imported aircraft."
Implies less aircraft needed in Canada during the winter. Nothing to indicate about summer traffic in the European direction.

​​​​​Was going to post are the 4 Sunwing aircraft due this summer still coming? If they are could this possibly mean this will be the last Summer we will see them

[Yeehaw22]

Originally Posted by NickBarnes

​​​​​Was going to post are the 4 Sunwing aircraft due this summer still coming? If they are could this possibly mean this will be the last Summer we will see them

Yes and yes. I believe winter 22/23 will be the last time any aircraft will transfer.

[NickBarnes]

Originally Posted by Yeehaw22

Yes and yes. I believe winter 22/23 will be the last time any aircraft will transfer.

Thanks Yeehaw22 for your reply, will be interested who comes in for the Summer bases in the future such as NWI, as its had Germania and of course Sunwing till now.

[P330]

When TUI send aircraft to Canada for winter, who crews them?

If it is UK crew, how does it work practically? People based there all winter, 3 weeks on/off, or rotational through the entire family.

Interested what its like for UK crew on a medium term run out of the country...

Also am I right by saying, when TUI go to Canada, the aircraft go onto the Canadian register for winter, but Sunwing aircraft retain their Canadian status when spending the summer here? If so, any reason for the different approach?

[loopylee]

Only TUI pilots go to Canada on the G reg planes, they're crewed by Sunwing cabin crew who are retrained to TUI procedures.

[P330]

Originally Posted by loopylee

Only TUI pilots go to Canada on the G reg planes, they're crewed by Sunwing cabin crew who are retrained to TUI procedures.

Thanks. So, do they stay all winter or is it rotated? If you were on the books at TUI, would that be a good gig to get?

[LiamNCL]

Originally Posted by P330

Thanks. So, do they stay all winter or is it rotated? If you were on the books at TUI, would that be a good gig to get?

There is none that has stayed on the G Register this winter.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by P330

If you were on the books at TUI, would that be a good gig to get?

Yes if you want to do some flying in interesting places, no if you hate sub-zero temperatures in your downtime