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G-TUKF is ex Ryanair/Pegasus. It doesn’t have a ‘standard’ Tui interior.
I believe the aircraft was sourced for fleet expansion after TCX’s failure prior to the Summer 2020 season, the pandemic put a stop to that. There were other examples such as ex FlyDubai aircraft. Though I’m not sure if those were or are part of the current fleet?
I believe the aircraft was sourced for fleet expansion after TCX’s failure prior to the Summer 2020 season, the pandemic put a stop to that. There were other examples such as ex FlyDubai aircraft. Though I’m not sure if those were or are part of the current fleet?
TUKF is in all-white with TUI titles. This is an older example so doesn’t have the Sky Interior but was fully refurbished prior to entering service I believe.
TUKM/O are ex-other TUI group airlines and are in a (very faded) all-blue livery with old TUI Nordic titles, albeit the “Nordic” is patched over.
TAWY looks worse externally. That is also ex-Nordic but they have completely removed the old Nordic titles and just added the big “TUI” at the front. It’s very patchy indeed.
The latter three all have the Sky Interior so it really is just their external appearance that’s the issue. No worse than the 787s though.
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conjecture ;
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
the information behind the statements is publicly available as you would expect for a listed company with a market cap of £2.88bn.
and interestingly Jet2’s maker cap on Friday was £2.5bn.
For completeness my last 3 package holidays have been Jet2 and I think they are much better than TUI in all respects but will be flying with TUI this summer. Just hoping to get a nice looking 737 rather than the grim
looking G-TUK* series! But this isn’t the same as the earlier posts suggesting that TUI are on the brink due to lots of positioning flights and third party flying. Thomson always used to do it they just appeared to have a better choice of partners in those days than TUI does now.
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
the information behind the statements is publicly available as you would expect for a listed company with a market cap of £2.88bn.
and interestingly Jet2’s maker cap on Friday was £2.5bn.
For completeness my last 3 package holidays have been Jet2 and I think they are much better than TUI in all respects but will be flying with TUI this summer. Just hoping to get a nice looking 737 rather than the grim
looking G-TUK* series! But this isn’t the same as the earlier posts suggesting that TUI are on the brink due to lots of positioning flights and third party flying. Thomson always used to do it they just appeared to have a better choice of partners in those days than TUI does now.
It's going to be an interesting next 12 months for tui that's for sure, as they've promised a big expansion. Currently have no announced firm agreement to take the Canadian aircraft from WestJet/sunwing. The 767s are going and it seems finally the company have twigged the calibre of 3rd party aircraft, although cheap, maybe having more of a reputational effect than they thought.
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Delivery Of More Max's?
Does anyone have any knowledge of when TUI will be taking delivery of their next 737-8 Max's? Presumably they are planning a larger fleet of Max's for Summer 2024 to meet their increased flight schedules?
I am aware that the 737-10 Max orders are still pending as the aircraft hasnt been certified yet, but don't they have around 30 Max 8's still on order?
I am aware that the 737-10 Max orders are still pending as the aircraft hasnt been certified yet, but don't they have around 30 Max 8's still on order?
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Aberdeen loses two destinations for 2024
- Rhodes goes completely.
- Tenerife loses the summer schedule though keeps the winter.
This ties in with no Sunwing in 24 and remains to be seen how the remaining schedule will be serviced.
Meanwhile a significant number of people continue to head to Edinburgh and Glasgow to hop on mainly Jet2 and/or EasyJet (maybe Ryr to a lesser extent) to all the usual destinations because of frequency and cost. Aberdeen(shire) definitely doesn’t have the population in the area to support a much higher frequency/more basing of holiday flights unfortunately.
- Rhodes goes completely.
- Tenerife loses the summer schedule though keeps the winter.
This ties in with no Sunwing in 24 and remains to be seen how the remaining schedule will be serviced.
Meanwhile a significant number of people continue to head to Edinburgh and Glasgow to hop on mainly Jet2 and/or EasyJet (maybe Ryr to a lesser extent) to all the usual destinations because of frequency and cost. Aberdeen(shire) definitely doesn’t have the population in the area to support a much higher frequency/more basing of holiday flights unfortunately.
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It's already been announced ABZ is to close as a seasonal base. I assume all remaining routes will be on W patterns and/or 3PF. I would imagine that explains 2 extra A/c at GLA.
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It's been clear for quite a while that ABZ would lose its based AC for S24, 6 W-pattern flights a week operating which all line up with GLA flight times plus one PMI operated by a third party
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conjecture ;
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
the information behind the statements is publicly available as you would expect for a listed company with a market cap of £2.88bn.
and interestingly Jet2’s maker cap on Friday was £2.5bn.
For completeness my last 3 package holidays have been Jet2 and I think they are much better than TUI in all respects but will be flying with TUI this summer. Just hoping to get a nice looking 737 rather than the grim
looking G-TUK* series! But this isn’t the same as the earlier posts suggesting that TUI are on the brink due to lots of positioning flights and third party flying. Thomson always used to do it they just appeared to have a better choice of partners in those days than TUI does now.
an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
the information behind the statements is publicly available as you would expect for a listed company with a market cap of £2.88bn.
and interestingly Jet2’s maker cap on Friday was £2.5bn.
For completeness my last 3 package holidays have been Jet2 and I think they are much better than TUI in all respects but will be flying with TUI this summer. Just hoping to get a nice looking 737 rather than the grim
looking G-TUK* series! But this isn’t the same as the earlier posts suggesting that TUI are on the brink due to lots of positioning flights and third party flying. Thomson always used to do it they just appeared to have a better choice of partners in those days than TUI does now.
and TUI market cap on the German stock is €3.5b. What’s J2 market cap in Germany?
A lot of J2 fan boys on here still.
@ End of June it was $3.85bn but this is quite a fall from the hey day in 2017 of $12bn.
Since 17 December 2014 TUI Group has its main listing in the premium segment of the London Stock Exchange and is included in FTSE’s UK Index Series. It also has a secondary listing in the electronic trading system Xetra and at the Hanover Stock Exchange.
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Just travelled on TUI G-TUIH on one of TUI’s longest flights from MAN to PVR in Mexico.
Sitting near the wing, noticed the wing was a total patchwork of paint and what looked like reflective tape. Any idea why the wing was in that state? It looked dreadful. Clearly not affecting the serviceability of the aircraft. Is it a paintwork issue?
Just travelled on TUI G-TUIH on one of TUI’s longest flights from MAN to PVR in Mexico.
Sitting near the wing, noticed the wing was a total patchwork of paint and what looked like reflective tape. Any idea why the wing was in that state? It looked dreadful. Clearly not affecting the serviceability of the aircraft. Is it a paintwork issue?
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TUI 787 Dreamliner
Just travelled on TUI G-TUIH on one of TUI’s longest flights from MAN to PVR in Mexico.
Sitting near the wing, noticed the wing was a total patchwork of paint and what looked like reflective tape. Any idea why the wing was in that state? It looked dreadful. Clearly not affecting the serviceability of the aircraft. Is it a paintwork issue?
Just travelled on TUI G-TUIH on one of TUI’s longest flights from MAN to PVR in Mexico.
Sitting near the wing, noticed the wing was a total patchwork of paint and what looked like reflective tape. Any idea why the wing was in that state? It looked dreadful. Clearly not affecting the serviceability of the aircraft. Is it a paintwork issue?
Perhaps TUI should start with low-risk routes to Luxor that they know they can sell.. and expand to other UK airports if bookings are better than the original forecast ?
Luxor was the first to fall (plus came the Loss of Monarch and also Thomas Cook too)
Monarch took a huge hit on the loss of the Egypt and Tunisia markets and was a big part in their demise.
LXR flights never recovered until now that we see package holiday charter flights coming back to the Nile region (Luxor) are starting again.
Although the Nile and the Red Sea resorts are Egypts Jewels for Tourism, it can be said that Egypt is not a ''safe bet'', nor ''low risk'' for any tour company/airline going back in there and they will be on ''hooks'' hoping that there is no unrest, nor major security issues which will again stop it all in its tracks, as has happened before time and time again. If anything is to be learned is that Luxor, historically is high risk.
Jet2 avoids both Egypt and Tunisia.
Luxor area is an amazing holiday area - Nile Cruises and the Valley of the Kings etc.
Slowly slowly as they say.....
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Mondays was Luxor 'day' for the holidaymakers (bit like Skiathos Fridays, and Rhodes Wednesdays)
Egypt Holidays pre 2013, was massive, and happy camping ££££ for all of the Tour Operators and their Airlines.
There is already a looming security risk for southern Egypt - namely a civil war over the border in Sudan.
It's a fair distance from Luxor to the border, but war and fleeing refugees on the news headlines could easily cause trouble to TUI
It's a fair distance from Luxor to the border, but war and fleeing refugees on the news headlines could easily cause trouble to TUI
For Thomsons/TUI, yes I think so; Monarch were the biggest operator to Egypt and to Luxor too.
Mondays was Luxor 'day' for the holidaymakers (bit like Skiathos Fridays, and Rhodes Wednesdays)
Egypt Holidays pre 2013, was massive, and happy camping ££££ for all of the Tour Operators and their Airlines.
Mondays was Luxor 'day' for the holidaymakers (bit like Skiathos Fridays, and Rhodes Wednesdays)
Egypt Holidays pre 2013, was massive, and happy camping ££££ for all of the Tour Operators and their Airlines.
It's taken them a long time to go back into that market, and I expect an element of the Luxor offer will be Nile cruises, but as DJ6 says danger is sadly never far from the Egyptian tourist industry.
it was planned from Newcastle way back in2006, can’t remember if it ever operated.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news...r-link-1548786
Luxor was one of my fav holiday places -
do a Nile Cruise on the old Agatha Christie paddle steamer, and add on a stay at the ex-Colonial piles of the Old Winter Palace Hotel at Luxor, and the Old Cataract at Aswan - both are simply heaven.
The trip down through the desert to Abu Simbel on Lake Nasser was the icing on the Pharaoh's cake.
The Luxor Temples, and the Valley of the Kings should be on every school kids bucket list (and they were once) so I do hope TUI's return to Luxor takes off.
At Monarch, we had Red Sea Holidays, Discover Egypt, Kuoni Holidays and Voyages Jules Verne who were all major charterers on LGW and MAN to Luxor flights for us.
757, A300 and A330 flights were all going out there en-masse (winter season only, in the main)
Aswan was also on a weekly 737 on Astraeus, and a GB Airways A320.
Thomsons/TUI were expanding with more Luxor flights from the regionals before it all went Pete Tong.
do a Nile Cruise on the old Agatha Christie paddle steamer, and add on a stay at the ex-Colonial piles of the Old Winter Palace Hotel at Luxor, and the Old Cataract at Aswan - both are simply heaven.
The trip down through the desert to Abu Simbel on Lake Nasser was the icing on the Pharaoh's cake.
The Luxor Temples, and the Valley of the Kings should be on every school kids bucket list (and they were once) so I do hope TUI's return to Luxor takes off.
At Monarch, we had Red Sea Holidays, Discover Egypt, Kuoni Holidays and Voyages Jules Verne who were all major charterers on LGW and MAN to Luxor flights for us.
757, A300 and A330 flights were all going out there en-masse (winter season only, in the main)
Aswan was also on a weekly 737 on Astraeus, and a GB Airways A320.
Thomsons/TUI were expanding with more Luxor flights from the regionals before it all went Pete Tong.