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Old 5th Jan 2024, 15:32
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
easyJet probably won't be interested until or unless someone else starts CDG and they'll wade in with a competing service to spoil the other airline's party. After the other airline has either cut back or left, they'll then reduce their own service.
I don't think the route could be profitable ,as it needs to be daily,but to fill a 320 ?,I don't think so.
What would work however is a Wizz to Warsaw, The Southampton pole population must be the largest in the south. With The Runway extension it makes it doable!
However all's quite on the SOU front,other airports including Southend,and down the road at BOH are introduceing routes almost weekly!
So what's happening with AGS and SOU management ?, the airport needs positive announcments!



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Old 5th Jan 2024, 16:16
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I had heard that late last year Wizz were due to announce something from the airport, to what extent I donít know, so assume this has now been put back/postponed. Agreed that SOU needs further additions soon and to new destinations ideally
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Originally Posted by stewyb
I had heard that late last year Wizz were due to announce something from the airport, to what extent I donít know, so assume this has now been put back/postponed. Agreed that SOU needs further additions soon and to new destinations ideally
Are you able to inform us as to where you had "heard" that Wizz were due to announce something from the airport?
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 22:12
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Originally Posted by RW20
I don't think the route could be profitable ,as it needs to be daily,but to fill a 320 ?,I don't think so.
What would work however is a Wizz to Warsaw, The Southampton pole population must be the largest in the south. With The Runway extension it makes it doable!
However all's quite on the SOU front,other airports including Southend,and down the road at BOH are introduceing routes almost weekly!
So what's happening with AGS and SOU management ?, the airport needs positive announcments!
The Polish population in Southampton is not only the largest in the south, itís one of the largest in the UK. The Polish community in Southampton pre-dates EU immigration, with many thousands of Poles settling in the city after WW2. Several of my teachers at School in the 1970s were Polish, including our wonderful chemistry teacher- Miss Czuprynski.

If new routes from the UK to Poland were to be introduced, surely Southampton would be the place to consider?
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 23:26
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Are you able to inform us as to where you had "heard" that Wizz were due to announce something from the airport?
The trouble with “what you heard” is that it could have come from the office cleaner who heard it from the fish lady at the market who was actually talking about Bournemouth.

The Polish population in Southampton is not only the largest in the south, it’s one of the largest in the UK.
You’re out of touch. Many of the Polish have gone home and have been replaced by Romanians.
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Old 6th Jan 2024, 18:34
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
The trouble with ďwhat you heardĒ is that it could have come from the office cleaner who heard it from the fish lady at the market who was actually talking about Bournemouth.



Youíre out of touch. Many of the Polish have gone home and have been replaced by Romanians.
Agreed, some of the Ďnew Polishí have returned, but Southamptonís population of Poles dates back decades. The overall Polish population had increased substantially up until 2021, and has remained pretty much level since.

However, I agree that itís always going to be difficult to attract a plethora of routes to Southampton, the airportís best hope is a gradual increase in domestic passengers with Loganair, Emerald/Aer Lingus, Blue Islands and Aurigny, a gradual build-up of numbers on KLM Amsterdam, the re-introduction of Manchester and CDG and additional frequencies and a sprinkling of additional sun/leisure/ski routes.

Itís never going to be another Bristol, Leeds or East Midlands, but itís location in a busy heavily populated area at the very bottom of the UK will always require good north/south links and there will always be a small but relatively regular market for quick breaks and holidays in the sun or on the slopes.I can certainly see SOU reaching the two million passengers per annum figure in the next ten years.
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 08:50
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One thing that I think would help SOU would be if the traffic problems round Chichester could be resolved. I live in the South of Sussex and the unpredictability of how long it would take to get round Chichester puts me off but I’m sure SOU is a much nicer experience than LGW.
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Am told that Loganair has cancelled the slots it was holding for MAN-SOU, so presume we are not going to see this development any time soon. They are apparently still raging with AGS Airports.
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
Am told that Loganair has cancelled the slots it was holding for MAN-SOU, so presume we are not going to see this development any time soon. They are apparently still raging with AGS Airports.
If this is so then it's a blow for SOU, it's certainly a quite time for the airport with no significant developments on the horizon!
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Loganair has no exclusive right nor monopoly on any routes from SOU and instead should understand open competition just like any other successful business. Sounds more like sour grapes to me and suggest they start reducing their fares first before toys out of pram. If they cannot price competitively because of their business model, donít expect others to stand by whilst demand from the general public suffers accordingly!
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Loganair has no exclusive right nor monopoly on any routes from SOU and instead should understand open competition just like any other successful business. Sounds more like sour grapes to me and suggest they start reducing their fares first before toys out of pram. If they cannot price competitively because of their business model, donít expect others to stand by whilst demand from the general public suffers accordingly!
Alternatively, LM have probably looked at a SOU-MAN route, seen what EZY have done to other SOU routes and decided that it's not worth the risk. Free market economics work both ways.
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 14:34
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Alternatively, LM have probably looked at a SOU-MAN route, seen what EZY have done to other SOU routes and decided that it's not worth the risk. Free market economics work both ways.
agree with this and most likely scenario, doesnít mean Loganair are right though and easyJet in the wrong
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And SOU still doesn't have a MAN service.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Alternatively, LM have probably looked at a SOU-MAN route, seen what EZY have done to other SOU routes and decided that it's not worth the risk. Free market economics work both ways.
Probably much to be said for that logic. If you were Loganair, why would you bother with the expense of building up routes for easyJet to muscle in on when the airport has shown you no loyalty whatsoever? Free market economics indeed.
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
Probably much to be said for that logic. If you were Loganair, why would you bother with the expense of building up routes for easyJet to muscle in on when the airport has shown you no loyalty whatsoever? Free market economics indeed.
The problem for SOU is it cannot make a profit just with Loganair,Blue island etc,it needs Easy and more routes for long time survival.
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 21:53
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Yes, more routes not airlines squabbling over the same routes. For sustainability it needs a mix of operators and routes
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 08:07
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They could just present Easyjet with a contract that stopped them operating on any route already served by another Operator.......................
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They could just present Easyjet with a contract that stopped them operating on any route already served by another Operator.......................
Why on Earth would they sign that. Nothing in it.
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Why on Earth would they sign that. Nothing in it.
Not to mention driving a cart and horses through competition rules?
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Not to mention driving a cart and horses through competition rules?
What if they offer an incentive for new routes?
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