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Old 13th Jan 2024, 13:19
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
I think I've been too subtle again - I'll try harder next time 👍
This is Pprune .......................................

anyway back to the South Coast...................

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Old 14th Jan 2024, 08:44
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Originally Posted by RW20
BOH has a big advantage with the length of its runway less restrictive operational times,enabling destinations and a full schedule for the based 738s.
SOU has the best transport links, and great location,it does however need management to promote and advertise its existing routes and to become more proactive in developing much needed new routes.
I see that there is a puff piece on the Daily Echo website today listing all the current routes served by the airport. Perhaps someone has been listening!


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Old 15th Jan 2024, 08:54
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Originally Posted by rog747
And with all due respect back to you,
to put it simply, if you have some 737-800 Pilot mates then just ask them if they can crunch the numbers for you on a SOU-AGP flight with 189 pax on, plus bags, and they will give you the answer.
Also ask them if they could do an immediate return to land with one engine out, or say a fire on board.
The Computer will say No.
It's too heavy and too fast and doesn't stop too well.

I trust that clarifies why.

Plus to confirm, Mr O'Leary said a few years back to the SOU Airport Management''We cannot go to SOU'' even with the Runway Extension.

I see that TCAS_FAN has already answered to you recently but I was going to quote his sage knowledge.
lol, we all know you take everything O’Leary says with a pinch of salt

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Old 15th Jan 2024, 11:09
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Originally Posted by Ascupart
I see that there is a puff piece on the Daily Echo website today listing all the current routes served by the airport. Perhaps someone has been listening!
It is a depressingly short list despite the runway extension. I can name many an airport that will handle that many destinations in an hour.
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Old 15th Jan 2024, 11:18
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
It is a depressingly short list despite the runway extension. I can name many an airport that will handle that many destinations in an hour.
Oh dear, this is a provincial airport not LHR or MAN. That ‘depressingly short list’ still has near on 30 departures a day and expect that to increase with the summer schedule not far way. Post BE it will take a lot longer to build up a route network again
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Old 17th Jan 2024, 23:21
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KLM have increased Amsterdam to 20x weekly flights from 31st March (3x daily ex. 2x on Sat). Drops back to 2x daily from 29th June - 25th August but the extra flights return afterwards. Good to see that they appear to be doing well, and the new schedule also just about allows a quick day trip to be made (plus it presumably also improves connection opportunities).
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 10:33
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November's CAA figures are now available. Southampton handled 56,489 passengers in November 2023

For comparison:

Nov 2022: 54,704
Nov 2019: 121,436
Nov 2018 141,028
Nov 2017: 143,587

Predictions for Nov 2024? Will we see six figures again?

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Old 18th Jan 2024, 10:53
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Originally Posted by Ascupart
November's CAA figures are now available. Southampton handled 56,489 passengers in November 2023

For comparison:

Nov 2022: 54,704
Nov 2019: 121,436
Nov 2018 141,028
Nov 2017: 143,587

Predictions for Nov 2024? Will we see six figures again?
Airport has achieved its target for this year of 750k and next year is 1m (83k monthly) so doable
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 10:59
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Interesting to see the Glasgow figures since EasyJet started on the route.

October 2023 = 7618
November 2023 = 8512
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 11:24
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Originally Posted by cavokblues
Interesting to see the Glasgow figures since EasyJet started on the route.

October 2023 = 7618
November 2023 = 8512
September 2023 = 7447

September 2022 = 7280
October 2022 = 7661
November 2022 = 7402
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 12:12
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
September 2023 = 7447

September 2022 = 7280
October 2022 = 7661
November 2022 = 7402
EZY didn’t start on GLA until early Nov so year on year for the same month, a decent increase. EZY also had an impact on EI to BHD which is down 7% for Nov year on year with 2347 on the new BFS service

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Old 18th Jan 2024, 12:40
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I'm not so sure how to read into those figures.

For the additional seats added, the increase in pax seems very modest.

Obviously, very early doors but intrigued to see what happens when easy's frequency increases and how sustainable the total pax figures are shared between two operators.
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 12:43
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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
Airport has achieved its target for this year of 750k and next year is 1m (83k monthly) so doable
Looking into predictions, according to the latest Eastleigh Airport Consultative Committee, the predicted passengers for 2023 was 800K. CAA figures for the year Dec 2022 - Nov 2023 is 748K so in the ballpark.

Where does the 1M prediction come from?



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Old 18th Jan 2024, 13:51
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Originally Posted by Ascupart
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Where does the 1M prediction come from?
AGS, the airport owner/operator.
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 18:17
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The easyJet figures are 59% loadfactor on SOU-BFS and although you can't tell a split between LM and EZY on the SOU-GLA CAA stats, I'm hearing that easyJet's loads on GLA are modest and at a similar 55-60% level to the BFS. It will be interesting to see how and whether this builds.
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 21:44
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
The easyJet figures are 59% loadfactor on SOU-BFS and although you can't tell a split between LM and EZY on the SOU-GLA CAA stats, I'm hearing that easyJet's loads on GLA are modest and at a similar 55-60% level to the BFS. It will be interesting to see how and whether this builds.
I imagine that unless Easy stats pick up then they won't be sticking around for long on the GLA or BFS routes.
Its going to be interesting on how SOU get to the quoted 1 mill pax for 2024.
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 21:59
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Easyjet tried Southend-Edinburgh - that didn't work particularly well... but Easyjet did stay with Southend on other routes (well, at least until Covid happened)
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 22:08
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Originally Posted by RW20
I imagine that unless Easy stats pick up then they won't be sticking around for long on the GLA or BFS routes.
Its going to be interesting on how SOU get to the quoted 1 mill pax for 2024.
So you are basing your theory on the first 4 weeks of operation, thankfully easyjet will probably look slightly longer term

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Old 19th Jan 2024, 08:18
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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
Airport has achieved its target for this year of 750k and next year is 1m (83k monthly) so doable
It's quite possible, especially with a 3rd daily KLM cityhopper.

Let's just hope that EI and LM don't reduce seat numbers in response to U2 competition.
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
The easyJet figures are 59% loadfactor on SOU-BFS and although you can't tell a split between LM and EZY on the SOU-GLA CAA stats, I'm hearing that easyJet's loads on GLA are modest and at a similar 55-60% level to the BFS. It will be interesting to see how and whether this builds.
BHD Nov 23 was down 600 on Nov 22, but there again Sept and Oct were down even more on the same months in 22
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