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Old 4th Jul 2022, 18:04
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And a CRJ-900 dropping off Danish Womans footie team for a Euro match later this week.
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Old 6th Jul 2022, 22:06
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Late Night Arrivals Total Disaster

Airport was a complete disaster last night... Landed around midnight, we were to park in one of the remote stands opposite the multistorey car parks/drop off zones. There was no ground staff awaiting the aircraft upon landing, and we was blocking the taxiway, as the aircraft could not park on the stand without ground crew to guide the aircraft in.

After about 15 mins it was clear we was blocking other aircraft on the taxiway, so the airport sent their own staff to guide the aircraft into the stand, once we was on stand and parked, the airport staff disappeared in their pick-up and the captain came on to say they had no ground staff available and would keep us updated. Around 1:10am, steps were finally brought up to the aircraft, but the ground crew vanished again.

The captain came on again to advise even though we had steps, the airport only had one bus operating on the airfield to take passengers to the terminal and there were three aircraft ahead of us for passengers to be taken to the terminal.

We were finally allowed off the aircraft at 1:45am, then took 50 minutes to clear border control as was a total mess too, all e-gates were closed, and queues were merging into each other as people approach border control from the old terminal gates and the newer eastern apron gates. Fortunately I had hand luggage only, but as I left the terminal at 2.40am, baggage from our aircraft had still not reached the reclaim belts.

The Captain was brilliant, walking through the aircraft keeping everyone updated. But the crew just looked totally fed-up and said this was happening on numerous occassions over the last few weeks. As the bus took us to the terminal, I counted three other aircraft with all the internal lights on and people moving around inside the aircraft with no steps, so can only assume they were in a similar situation too!

Not quite the rosie story, the airport paints about the airport all being ready for the summr rush!
Luton Airport is ready for summer rush says boss - BBC News

Missed my last EMR train going north, and ended up only getting as far Bedford, and then a hefty taxi for the remainder of the journey.

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Old 6th Jul 2022, 22:59
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I was starting to get excited but I can find no evidence they will run on the St Pancras to Corby line, which is the route that stops at Luton Airport Parkway.
https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.u...et-to-be-named
The airport pushed for 4 trains an hour, as part of the EMR franchise agreement, but ended up with 2, which is still better than one. The whole experience now though is very disappointing compared to the old rolling stock and is a major downgrade. The airport will be able to claim a 30 minute journey time between terminal and London via the Dart so it will look good on paper but I feel EMR want to discourage airport passengers from London in using the service by providing no luggage space.
Living north of Bedford and being totally reliant of the "new" EMR Connect service to get to London, I can confirm is nothing to get excited about! Despite being promised newly refurbished trains when the service was introduced in May 2021, we are still awaiting this and they are only now gradually repainthing them all into EMR colours, but refurbishmewnt plans are still up in the air. The trains are around 16 years old and worked a hard life, plying the Greater Anglia commuter routes and never had any refurbishment in that time.

We are promised after the refurbishment they will have 2+2 abreast seating, with USB/Laptop plus and additonal luggage storage. But if and when this happens is anyones guess?!

The trains are meant to operate as two trains connected together with eight carriages, however there seems to be regular technical problems and its not an usual for a single four carriage train to be operating the route.

People should remember they are never meant to be an Airport Express service, and just an additonal option and capacitiy to get to the airport.

What makes me laugh is they specifically chose these older 360 class trains to operate the Corby to London route, as they could be upgraded to run at 110mph and operate on the fast Intercity tracks. However they can only run at 110mph north of Bedford, which has the newly upgraded electrified lines, as the older overhead cabling between London and Bedford can only handle electric trains operating to 100mph!

The new EMR Aurura trains are unlikely to operate on local services to Corby, and more for the routes to Sheffield, Nottingham and Derby. They have only ordered enough Aurora trains to replace the current EMR Meridians like for like, which currently
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Ad-Hoc footie charter in the wee hours tonight?
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 19:15
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Not allowed.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 19:21
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Not allowed.
But would you argue with near 200 Viking Maidens!
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 19:34
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SAS A320 positioning from Heathrow departing as Pabely says with The Danish football team returning to Copenhagen. Are you going to lay on the tarmac Spanisheyes trying to stop it taking off?





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Old 8th Jul 2022, 19:55
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I was actually looking out for something Spanish after the game at MK mid evening then clocked the SAS.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 20:15
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SAS A320 positioning from Heathrow departing as Pabely says with The Danish football team returning to Copenhagen. Are you going to lay on the tarmac Spanisheyes trying to stop it taking off?​​​​​​
Someone is off their head in allowing this to go as it is classed as a banned ad hoc movement. There is a public inquiry starting soon to determine an LLAOL planning application with LLAOL promising to follow the noise regulations. Seems they can't be trusted.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 20:25
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Don't seem to be any DHLs tonight so maybe a free slot?
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 20:35
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It doesn't count

The rules

No ad hoc movements will be permitted including Commercial, GA and Maintenance between 2200-0559 GMT 14th June – 16th September

• No further night slots to be allocated to series flights 2200-0559 GMT 1st June – 30th September

• No new slot applications with an aircraft QC value greater than 0.5 will be permitted between 2200 – 0559 GMT.

• No aircraft with a value greater than QC1 will be permitted to operate in the night-time period.

• No re-scheduling of existing allocated slots from the day time 0600-2159 GMT into the night time 2200-0559 GMT 14th June – 16th September
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May I suggest that that this and any subsequent flights have been authorised by higher ups (Ministry of Transport) as this competition I a major sporting event. The final is at Wembley at the end of the month and is sold out but it all depends who is in the final.
Last week there was a number of flights allowed into the early hours at Heathrow due to delays across Europe.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 20:48
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As the flight is being positioned from Heathrow why would the MoT permit a Luton departure and not a Heathrow departure? I doubt a bunch of women kicking a ball around would get a government department involved. Anyway this is a LLAOL rule.
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I think you better calm down love, far more important things happening in the world at the moment.
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I am calm. It doesn't bother me but it might bother the public inquiry when it comes to the conduct of the applicant.
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There is wriggle room and while LLAOL has apologised to airport users for the disruption caused by Summer 22 restrictions they have refused to apologise to those that have their sleep distrupted every night, as that would be an admittance that they are a bad neighbour.

Double glazing has no effect when everyone has their windows open. Also airport funded double glazing only covers one room. Looking at Breachwood Green, located at the end of the runway, 95% of the homes there are not eligible anyway.

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Old 9th Jul 2022, 12:27
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LTNman - I wonder how many of the houses in Breachwood Green have changed hands since the beginning of night jet operations at Luton (55 years ago?).
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 15:04
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Moral of that story is....don't live next to an airport if you don't like planes.
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Moving next to a minor road 30 years ago doesn’t mean that person relinquishes their right to complain if that minor road becomes a motorway. To be noted that I haven’t complained. Also I didn’t know Markyate, Slip End, Harpenden, Stevenage, St Albans etc are next to an airport.

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Old 9th Jul 2022, 21:11
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30 years ago. If we hadn't have had the oil crisis in '74 then I'm sure Court Line would have been the dominate airline at Luton and Luton might now have been significantly larger by now, so if you bought a house in the 60s fair enough but I see know excuse since then. When I bought in 90s estates agents were already warning of significant noise from planes expected.
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