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The majority of all European short haul is unprofitable during the winter but market share and other factors mean airlines still fly. If this was any different, it would be done by a based carrier. Or are you trying to tell me that P&O think Jet2 are so wonderful they’re paying them a premium to specifically operate these flights?
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It’s been clear for the last few years now that “seat only” sales literally take the back seat as to availability for bookings.
So, agreed, Easyjet could dump seat capacity at LGW if J2 were to gain scheduled access.
But I strongly believe that J2 Holidays are canny enough only to enter that particular battle ground if it will work for them in the long term.
Yes, there’s EasyJet Holidays too, but at this time they’re a quarter the size of J2 Holidays and both are expanding continuously at a similar rate.
If it happens, I’m sure J2 could make a commercial success at “Gatters”.
I'm sure that Jet2 would love to be at Gatwick, and I'm sure that Gatwick would love to have them - the issue is how they move from nothing to a sustainable base size, with slots being the primary obstacle.
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Extra sectors for training capacity and pilot recency, brand awareness south of the river, market share in the charter business.
The majority of all European short haul is unprofitable during the winter but market share and other factors mean airlines still fly. If this was any different, it would be done by a based carrier. Or are you trying to tell me that P&O think Jet2 are so wonderful they’re paying them a premium to specifically operate these
The majority of all European short haul is unprofitable during the winter but market share and other factors mean airlines still fly. If this was any different, it would be done by a based carrier. Or are you trying to tell me that P&O think Jet2 are so wonderful they’re paying them a premium to specifically operate these
im sure Easyjet would try, but people said the same of Ryanair at STN, and how’s that gone for them? It’s hard to dump fares on package holidays when the hotels you don’t own them and to a large extent can’t set their rate. In fact Jet2 can probably undercut easyJet back there via their larger economy of scale with regards to holidays.
Jet2 and Ryanair are a very different kettle of fish and even Easy is
The departures and arrivals of Jet2 are spaced over quite a large time and by the time the last one has gone the first return flight is almost back so time for a quick brew
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The issue of ground handling is quite a specific example when considering the overall operational and financial performance of either airline. The point raised about under-utilisation of ground staff for Jet2 at certain times of the day is a fair one, but the same can still be said at various EasyJet stations where they have a more dedicated or exclusive ground handling provider. Ok they may not absord the cost directly, but their contractual terms will inevitably need to cover the cost of those demand variations. Either that or they receive a poorly resourced ground handling provision to which there's a whole host of problems.
Jet2 have a very clear focussed product which is European, mass market, good value package holidays to which they clearly recognise is a market that demands a certain level of service, above that of your traditional low-cost carriers where it's all about cost. The in-house ground handling provision is pivotal to that product/service offering that far outweighs any potential resourcing inefficiencies that may come around by the seasonal nature of Jet2's flying schedule. I for one, looking at the financial position alone and the fact that EasyJet, in my personal opinion, has a far less focussed product than many of it's obvious competitors, would disagree they are better placed to weather a downturn.
Jet2 have a very clear focussed product which is European, mass market, good value package holidays to which they clearly recognise is a market that demands a certain level of service, above that of your traditional low-cost carriers where it's all about cost. The in-house ground handling provision is pivotal to that product/service offering that far outweighs any potential resourcing inefficiencies that may come around by the seasonal nature of Jet2's flying schedule. I for one, looking at the financial position alone and the fact that EasyJet, in my personal opinion, has a far less focussed product than many of it's obvious competitors, would disagree they are better placed to weather a downturn.
Their markets are different too. Jet2 Holidays are recognised to be of good quality, fully inclusive, but at a higher price than just the base components.
On the other hand, EZY sell you a flight, then start adding extras - baggage, seating, hotels, car hire, etc. With EZY they first tell you the base price of the flight, with Jet2 you are given a holiday price.
Both have their niche, and both are good at what they do.
On the other hand, EZY sell you a flight, then start adding extras - baggage, seating, hotels, car hire, etc. With EZY they first tell you the base price of the flight, with Jet2 you are given a holiday price.
Both have their niche, and both are good at what they do.
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I'll be honest, I'm not sure easy even know what they want to be at the moment. Their recent half year update states they want to grow easyJet holidays yet their mission statement insists they're a low cost airline. I think they need to identify what they want to do and do it well as they seem to have lost focus over the last few years with persistent underwhelming results. I'm not sure the existing management have the bandwidth to deliver both effectively.
Easy are much larger but Jet2's performance and results are way more impressive.
Easy are much larger but Jet2's performance and results are way more impressive.
G-LSAI in a spot of bother today?
MAN - HER this morning climbed to 24000ft, quickly did a 180 descended to 8000 and stooged around Bolton area for a couple of circuits before going back into MAN.
Anyone know what's up? Air-con?
Anyone know what's up? Air-con?
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Yes the 2nd A321 first flew 17th June as D-AVXN test reg so guess couple of weeks till delivered to EMA for decals and then on to MAN for pre service checks and mods.
The main problem has been engine delivery
Don`t know about 738s other than G-JZDC has been at Shannon for about a month
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The main problem has been engine delivery
Don`t know about 738s other than G-JZDC has been at Shannon for about a month
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