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Old 29th Apr 2023, 11:54
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I was on a CDG to MAN flight which broke down so they cancelled a BLK flight and sent to Manchester to operate the CDG and back which was full on return flight sorry don`t know about outward
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Jet2 flying ex-Sudan British passport holders to UK

Clip on Tele last night showed Jet2 (at STN or MAN?) unloading repatriated British passengers ex Sudan presumably from Larnaca.
Anyone know how many of these charter flights Jet2 did, or are still doing?
Good on yer, Jet2.

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Old 30th Apr 2023, 08:46
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
Clip on Tele last night showed Jet2 (at STN or MAN?) unloading repatriated British passengers ex Sudan presumably from Larnaca.
Anyone know how many of these charter flights Jet2 did, or are still doing?
(At time of writing (08.45) G-LSAK outbound to unstated destination but track typical of routes to Cyprus etc)
Good on yer, Jet2.
Destination of AK now shows as Dubrovnik.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 08:48
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Originally Posted by Airbanda
Destination of AK now shows as Dubrovnik.
Thanks for the update. Ive amended my post.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 09:06
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Two flights LCA-STN, last one to be operated tonight.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 09:24
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
Clip on Tele last night showed Jet2 (at STN or MAN?) unloading repatriated British passengers ex Sudan presumably from Larnaca.
Anyone know how many of these charter flights Jet2 did, or are still doing?
Good on yer, Jet2.
The thanks go not so much to Jet2, who I'm sure were well paid for these flights, but to their crews who would have been called in at short notice to fly them.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 09:40
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Originally Posted by inOban
The thanks go not so much to Jet2, who I'm sure were well paid for these flights, but to their crews who would have been called in at short notice to fly them.
Titan have been doing a few as well, G-POWT has been back and forth from various UK airports, and they’ve chartered in from hi fly and Wamos to do some runs to/from BHX over the past few days.
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Old 1st May 2023, 15:20
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No doubt LPL will be on Jet2's horizon in order to keep Manchester airport in check
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Old 1st May 2023, 19:05
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No doubt LPL will be on Jet2's horizon in order to keep Manchester airport in check
The concept of check against MAG is totally irrelevant to be honest . Jet2 are now “the” established holiday company with airline attached business in the UK targeting families in particular.

They already have a presence at Leeds, Manchester, and East Midlands and evidently aren’t opposed to operating from airports in relatively close proximity ( subject to available local market potential to draw from)

We could add Birmingham and Newcastle to that mix as well.

I would not be surprised at all if an operation of two or three aircraft from Liverpool to popular Palma, Alicante, Malaga, Tenerife, a Greek isle ( or two), Paphos and Dalaman with attached packages were in their plans .

Such offerings would not cannibalise Manchester that much imho as they would be marketing at a more local ( City region) dynamic and with their family friendly marketing pitch to boot.

In winter a single part time aircraft might suffice for ski and sun holidays .

Example Chambéry, Tenerife , Lanzarote , Paphos .

Basically I am saying if Jet2 Holidays potential sales, (and analysis of prior trends surpass a threshold) then the vehicles (aircraft) will be delivered to support that demand.

This advocacy might surprise a few here and another place “tall towers”

The Jet2 offering differs in fundamental ways from Easy/Ryan and Wizz and even Tui at certain price points .

And the traditional package offering remains enticing to families that haven’t the time to build out there own deals ( in some cases the legal protections and ATOL bonds are also an added bonus when spending several thousands for that annual summer trip)

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Old 1st May 2023, 19:41
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
The concept of check against MAG is totally irrelevant to be honest . Jet2 are now “the” established holiday company with airline attached business in the UK targeting families in particular.

They already have a presence at Leeds, Manchester, and East Midlands and evidently aren’t opposed to operating from airports in relatively close proximity ( subject to available local market potential to draw from)

We could add Birmingham and Newcastle to that mix as well.

I would not be surprised at all if an operation of two or three aircraft from Liverpool to popular Palma, Alicante, Malaga, Tenerife, a Greek isle ( or two), Paphos and Dalaman with attached packages were in their plans .

Such offerings would not cannibalise Manchester that much imho as they would be marketing at a more local ( City region) dynamic and with their family friendly marketing pitch to boot.

In winter a single part time aircraft might suffice for ski and sun holidays .

Example Chambéry, Tenerife , Lanzarote , Paphos .

basically i am saying if Jet2 Holidays (and analysis of prior trends surpass a threshold) then the vehicles (aircraft) will be delivered to support that demand.

This advocacy might surprise a few here and another place “tall towers”
I could also envisage them starting a base on the untapped south coast at SOU to similar destinations as above. I hear Jet2 have been in conversations with the airport, like others no doubt, let’s wait and see what happens!

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Old 1st May 2023, 21:07
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cant see this happening with the Jet2 fleet of 737-800? and SOU closing time of 23-00
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Old 1st May 2023, 21:32
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Must admit Rutan16, after giving it some thought I’m coming round to the idea of an LPL base for Jet2, largest city region without a Jet2 base now. Given their planned growth it might fit, in spite of MAN being close by. Still, I’m pretty sure that Jet2 are in discussions with lots of airports (including SOU, BOH and no doubt SEN) and have plenty of options available to them. I must reiterate though that I feel gaining some presence at LGW will be a priority, when the slots become available I would not be surprised to see them move in. They’ve publicly stated it’s on their radar, and LGW want them in too, but like others have said when they do get in it will have to be in a big way.

With all that said, i’m still skeptical that they are going to open any new bases in the foreseeable future. They will need to shore up growth at current bases before expanding. So I’m hoping there’s news this year of new bases but I won’t be holding my breath.

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Old 2nd May 2023, 11:11
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Don't discount the possibility of Jet2 revisiting the idea of a base in Mainland Spain or the Canaries. This would provide for resilience, and offer the option of operating sectors to unserved UK airports such as LGW, ABZ, NWI, LPL, BOH, CWL etc where a full base may not be practical for reasons of either slot availability or market size. If their services are to UK airports exclusively, operation of G-registered aircraft should not be an issue, unless I am misunderstanding the regulations?
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Old 2nd May 2023, 12:08
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
Don't discount the possibility of Jet2 revisiting the idea of a base in Mainland Spain or the Canaries. This would provide for resilience, and offer the option of operating sectors to unserved UK airports such as LGW, ABZ, NWI, LPL, BOH, CWL etc where a full base may not be practical for reasons of either slot availability or market size. If their services are to UK airports exclusively, operation of G-registered aircraft should not be an issue, unless I am misunderstanding the regulations?
Think that would be plausible and allowable under Third Country rules, not sure how you would manage right to live and work rules though.

Current stance apparently is increase capacity at current bases and retain the flexibility to acquire necessary slots for growth as and when they become available. So unless anything has changed a new base is unlikely in the next couple of years.
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Old 3rd May 2023, 11:58
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I must reiterate though that I feel gaining some presence at LGW will be a priority, when the slots become available I would not be surprised to see them move in.
Isn’t that the big question? Are sufficient slots to allow a minimum of 2 aircraft a minimum of 2 rotations 7 days a week likely to be available any time soon?
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Old 3rd May 2023, 12:27
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax
Isn’t that the big question? Are sufficient slots to allow a minimum of 2 aircraft a minimum of 2 rotations 7 days a week likely to be available any time soon?
I would say so, yes. Perhaps if the secondary runway becomes available then who knows, but certainly this rumour of an imminent base announcement flies in the face of the current line that they need to focus on growth at currently bases. Unless anything has changed then like I said previously I wouldn’t hold my breath.

For what it’s worth, if for arguments sake they did want to go in to Gatwick and they acquired the slots to do so, it probably wouldn’t start off with two aircraft. Would be a large base to make it worthwhile. I also doubt it would just be a question of slots but also terminal space, they like their brand and they like it to be clearly visible in terminals. Is there scope for that at Gatwick?
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Old 3rd May 2023, 18:40
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Gatwick churns a lot, Norwegian's based operation collapsed and BA have downsized yet again. There's clearly scope for growth given Wizz haven't exactly set the heather alight.
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Old 3rd May 2023, 20:40
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
BA have downsized yet again.
What are the stats and projections on that?
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
What are the stats and projections on that?
Summer short haul program is currently the 10 G-GAT* machines and up to 9 of the G-EUX* A321s so still well down on summer 2019. Projections aren't worth a damn until orders are placed for new aircraft.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Projections aren't worth a damn until orders are placed for new aircraft.
Strange that BA only have 20 A320neo. I'm sure awaiting large order of at least 50 NEO's and a good few A350s and maybe 787s too. Don't think the 200 seat MAX aircraft are even for Euroflyer anyway
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