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[MANFAN]

Why is the MEN continually releasing the status of every delayed and cancelled flight?!
Are they that bored?!
I have a good mind to complain…not that I expect it to stop though!

I hope the airport’s communications and press teams are ensuring they speak to them!
This is pure scaremongering and they shouldn’t be allowed to post this.
It’s well known most delays over the summer are caused by ATC delays or strikes across Europe.
Passengers can find out the status of their flight through many other more reliable means.

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by MANFAN

Why is the MEN continually releasing the status of every delayed and cancelled flight?!
Are they that bored?!
I have a good mind to complain…not that I expect it to stop though!

I hope the airport’s communications and press teams are ensuring they speak to them!
This is pure scaremongering and they shouldn’t be allowed to post this.
It’s well known most delays over the summer are caused by ATC delays or strikes across Europe.
Passengers can find out the status of their flight through many other more reliable means.

Primarily Flow control within the Athens FIR with knock on effects. Just about all airports north of Orly, and West of Frankfurt are experiencing delays of 20 -35 minutes right now . And those that have significant traffic into the Greek Isles are amplified. Heathrow is an exception as it has relatively few Greek flights in particular.

In the UK it’s Edinburgh, Manchester , Birmingham and Gatwick carrying the burden as the points of departure to those very destinations, with Düsseldorf, Rotterdam on the continent .

There is Guy in another place that constantly comments about delays at Manchester without any explanation, whilst Liverpool is also experiencing delays of around 20 minutes as well.

The inference from that Guy and the MEN story is that its a problem of Manchester Airports making -of course it isn’t.

Through FR24 is pretty much is always the centre of the story these days .

A simple web site that has a substantial amount of data (without analysis) - BTW certain airports - LPL- Faster Easier Friendlier is one that doesn’t appear report their statistics- Wonder why ?

[SWBKCB]

They are just filling space - don't get too excited. And the inference that the MEN 'story' is blaming MAN is your interpretation - what it does say is:

The majority of flights from Manchester Airport take off on time however sometimes departure times can be delayed - or even cancelled - for a number of reasons. Your flight’s departure time could change, even at the last minute, so you need to keep up to date.

Don't think today's cancelled flight is going to impact too many people

As of 11am, the following flights from Manchester Airport have been cancelled:

• Arcus Air flight to Paris - was due to depart at 1.40pm

[pwalhx]

Originally Posted by MANFAN

Why is the MEN continually releasing the status of every delayed and cancelled flight?!
Are they that bored?!
I have a good mind to complain…not that I expect it to stop though!

I hope the airport’s communications and press teams are ensuring they speak to them!
This is pure scaremongering and they shouldn’t be allowed to post this.
It’s well known most delays over the summer are caused by ATC delays or strikes across Europe.
Passengers can find out the status of their flight through many other more reliable means.

Because they pull a lot of thei news from social media.

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by pwalhx

Because they pull a lot of thei news from social media.

true it’s long gone that it was a serious journal paid for and delivered to a majority of homes across the city by youngsters on bikes each evening for extra pocket money

[Asturias56]

"This is pure scaremongering and they shouldn’t be allowed to post this."

You mean its true but very embarrassing and inconvenient?

[Navpi]

Originally Posted by Rutan16

true it’s long gone that it was a serious journal paid for and delivered to a majority of homes across the city by youngsters on bikes each evening for extra pocket money

And its syndicated thru Trinity Mirror.

You see gormless articles about say local food or dialect and the same articles appears in the Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail, Northumberland Gazette etc etc.

I always call out some of the Man Airport reporting but seldon get a reply as i suspect a significant over reach comes from TM execs in London.

[Asturias56]

no - one or two locals on "work experience" or minimum wage so they can get their foot on the news ladder with something on their CV

Same across the whole UK - mainly exists to regurgitate press releases or stories fed to them by people with an agenda

[dave59]

I'm sure this is true but it doesn't help when Manchester, the North of England's main airport gives them such an open goal. If the facility were something to be proud of they would have nothing to report. MANFAN's contribution upthread about the difference between British cities and their continental counterparts applies equally to the airports that serve them.

[BHX5DME]

July 2023

Manchester – 2,996,690 up 14.8%

Stansted – 2,807,150 up 13.5%

East Midlands – 495,214 up 18.7%

Rolling 12m end 31.07.23

Stansted – 26,835,667

Manchester – 26,617,362

East Midlands – 3,600,428



Manchester Airports Group ‘s (MAG) focus on delivering maximum choice and value to passengers drove a strong performance in July, as figures show London Stansted became the first major UK airport to reach pre-pandemic passenger levels.

The airport saw 2.8m passengers pass through its terminal, which was equivalent to 102% of levels seen in July 2019. Last month was the busiest July the airport had ever seen, and the third busiest month in its history.

London Stansted serves more European destinations than any other airport in the UK, offering passengers the choice they look for when booking their summer breaks, business trips or to visit friends and family. It serves as important gateway for visitors to the capital.

This breadth of choice and value is seen across MAG - which also owns and operates Manchester and East Midlands Airports. MAG served 6.3m passengers across the month. Manchester Airport served 2.9m passengers, equivalent to 94% of pre-pandemic levels, and East Midlands Airport served 495,000 passengers, representing 87% of traffic seen in July 2019.

The rolling 12-month passenger total for the Group is now more than 57 million passengers – up 51% on last year.

All three of MAG’s airports have maintained their high levels of service as the summer season has continued. In July 100% of passengers at East Midlands Airport passed through security in 15 minutes or less, the figure was 97% at London Stansted and 96% at Manchester.

In the CAA’s annual Airport Accessibility Report published in July, all three of MAG’s airports received the highest possible ‘very good’ rating from the regulator. The official ratings saw Manchester and London Stansted improve their performance, while East Midlands Airport maintained its rating which saw it rated the Europe’s top-performing airport at The Ozion Accessibility Awards last year.

[Habana2118]

Ryanair gone self handling

I notice Ryanair has gone self handling, when did this happen? Makes sense I guess as they soon to do well out of STN with BlueHandling

[The96er]

Originally Posted by Habana2118

I notice Ryanair has gone self handling, when did this happen? Makes sense I guess as they soon to do well out of STN with BlueHandling

They haven't gone self handling, not yet anyway. What you're seeing is a sub brand called 'T25' of Swissport. with dedicated staff and equipment.

[AirLCY]

Originally Posted by The96er

They haven't gone self handling, not yet anyway. What you're seeing is a sub brand called 'T25' of Swissport. with dedicated staff and equipment.

Same as STN, just a different brand name and supplier of staff

[AircraftOperations]

Do Ryanair still get some flights handled by another handler too (Stobart/Star?) at MAN?

[The96er]

Originally Posted by AircraftOperations

Do Ryanair still get some flights handled by another handler too (Stobart/Star?) at MAN?

For a time, Stobat/Star (Now called Air tanker) were Ramping/Dispatching selected RYR flights as were Menzies at one point. Since the summer schedule started, it is all T25/Swissport.

[AircraftOperations]

Originally Posted by The96er

For a time, Stobat/Star (Now called Air tanker) were Ramping/Dispatching selected RYR flights as were Menzies at one point. Since the summer schedule started, it is all T25/Swissport.

Thanks for the info. I've just looked it up and they now seem to be called Sky Tanking.

[The96er]

Yes, you're correct, it is Sky Tanking. Must have been thinking of something else.

[Habana2118]

Ah now I understand, I wonder if this is something Ryanair and Swissport May extend other big U.K. airports

[davidjohnson6]

I know that T1 is due to close, but MAN airport always seems to me like a higgledy-piggledy mess - a bit like a warren of tunnels, lifts and other closed-in passages. I'm comparing it against LGW, STN, EDI, as well as other airports of similiar size like VIE, CPH, ATH, DUS, etc.

Am I the only one to think it feels like a lot of pieces stuck together with glue and string ? Will the closure of T1 really improve this ?

[TheSpiddalKid]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

I know that T1 is due to close, but MAN airport always seems to me like a higgledy-piggledy mess - a bit like a warren of tunnels, lifts and other closed-in passages. I'm comparing it against LGW, STN, EDI, as well as other airports of similiar size like VIE, CPH, ATH, DUS, etc.

Am I the only one to think it feels like a lot of pieces stuck together with glue and string ? Will the closure of T1 really improve this ?

It is the way it is, much like any large piece of infrastructure, because they are the consequence of decisions over a long period of time. The original shell of T1 is from the mid-1960s. This would have had a plan at the time and will probably have latent provision in the plans for future expansion. But there is no way those plans could look 50+ years into the future.

So what you get over time is the expansion within the original plans. You then get more piecemeal provision where they think it can be fitted in as it is often cheaper in the short-term until you run out of options or decide to bite the bullet on the more expensive longer-term plans.

You need to look at the building of T2 for when Manchester started to look to the now and the future. The original T2 had plans built into it to allow for the expansion you are currently seeing, with the ability to expand further using the footprint of T1.