Manchester-3

[SWBKCB]

although 10-11 hours in one of those might not be nice

Never really understood this - I'd rather be in a narrowbody than stuck in the middle section of a widebody.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Never really understood this - I'd rather be in a narrowbody than stuck in the middle section of a widebody.

I was thinking more like Condor with 2-4-2 which is better than 3-3, especially if you are a family of 4.
Corsair do 3-3-3.
Food / refreshments service doesn't stop the whole flow to toilets as well.

[SWBKCB]

especially if you are a family of 4.

You are implying there that sitting with family is a good thing....

[BA318]

Originally Posted by pabely

I was thinking more like Condor with 2-4-2 which is better than 3-3, especially if you are a family of 4.
Corsair do 3-3-3.
Food / refreshments service doesn't stop the whole flow to toilets as well.

How do? Service usually happens simultaneously on both aisles. If you need the toilet you’re just as blocked on a widebody as you are on a narrowbody.

[eye2eye5]

Friends had their EI flights to New York cancelled in advance last week. Booked Virgin instead. Doesn’t suggest full flights…….

[pabely]

Originally Posted by BA318

How do? Service usually happens simultaneously on both aisles. If you need the toilet you’re just as blocked on a widebody as you are on a narrowbody.

But a A330 usually has toilets in the middle as well, on a 321 you don't have that. On a A330 if 4 trollies are out, two starting from front and two from the middle, the majority of pax can get to toilets. On a 321 the same blocks off at least 50% access - unless Jet2 would only go for just front & rear conveniences.

[Shamrock350]

Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc

Saw it reported elsewhere that EI's LF for the MAN base was 64% for May. Hopefully that has picked up since.

Averages for the most recent months available and the increases versus the same months last year.

March ‘23 - 67% (+10)
April ‘23 - 72% (+5)
May ‘23 - 64% (+8)

It’s worth noting that May was the first full month of A333 operations on the JFK route, big increase in capacity versus the A321LR. Despite this, it’s a decent improvement versus last year.

Peak summer should see typically strong load factors, especially now they seem to have established themselves. The A333 is far too big for the winter months though but it’s a case of needs must with the A321LR required in Dublin.

If the base sticks around until 2025, the arrival of XLRs in Dublin will provide some much needed narrow body capacity which is where Manchester could see opportunities.

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky

Transfer is surely more "risky" as you are potentially bringing together passengers from a wide variety of different origins which might have varying levels of security.

Its exactly the same UK regulation at play passengers entering the UK must be screened at point of boarding to UK standards .

As we are NOT now nor have ever been in the Schengen zone such screening also requires full ID document and VISA checks before boarding - THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED AND SENT TO THE UK BORDER AND IMMIGRATION agency prior to you flying . This is the controversial point . Border force already know who is arriving and when hours before (and have done for decades (indeed since the Irish troubles in the seventies -they even know who is travelling within the CTA on ferries )

Much of the border paraphernalia at the port of arrival is very much for show through other than customs and spot police checks.

Demanding granny’s passport is pretty much pointless nonsense however plays to certain galleries !

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky

Transfer is surely more "risky" as you are potentially bringing together passengers from a wide variety of different origins which might have varying levels of security.

Originally Posted by Mayfield62

I am amazed that Jet2 has not taken over routes formerly operated by Thomas Cook Airlines. Traffic to the Dom Rep, Cuba, Jamaica, Mexico and West Coast USA must be ripe for the picking.

They will need a multi year contract with accommodation suppliers and reasonable enough margins in an exceptionally competitive market dominated by US and Canadian companies .VERY VERY tricky and risky.

That said I suspect they could do a deal with Cuba

[chaps1954]

Originally Posted by eye2eye5

Friends had their EI flights to New York cancelled in advance last week. Booked Virgin instead. Doesn’t suggest full flights…….

The A330 had to go to Dublin for maintenance and nothing to replace it

[The96er]

Originally Posted by eye2eye5

Friends had their EI flights to New York cancelled in advance last week. Booked Virgin instead. Doesn’t suggest full flights…….

The aircraft in question suffered an extended stay in the DUB hangar due to needing an unplanned engine change, nothing to do with load factors. The load factor for the JFK is currently at about 85% plus with very healthy cargo loads too.

[eye2eye5]

Thank you for that update. I was working on the fact that they could pick up replacement flights on Virgin as evidence that flights are not full at peak time.

[Una Due Tfc]

Originally Posted by chaps1954

The A330 had to go to Dublin for maintenance and nothing to replace it

The last A330 in storage was reactivated in the last fortnight, so there’s now a spare A330 at all times in DUB to cover this type of thing going forward.

[CabinCrewe]

Planned Ethiopian change to 787 for W23 now not happening and remaining A359 via GVA

[The96er]

Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc

The last A330 in storage was reactivated in the last fortnight, so there’s now a spare A330 at all times in DUB to cover this type of thing going forward.

The EI and EI UK fleets cannot be substituted for each other as they’re on different AOC and different national registrations.

[eggc]

Originally Posted by The96er

The EI and EI UK fleets cannot be substituted for each other as they’re on different AOC and different national registrations.

I am 99.99% sure EI registered A330's have flown ex MAN to the US very recently...

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by The96er

The EI and EI UK fleets cannot be substituted for each other as they’re on different AOC and different national registrations.

They can on a temporary basis such a substitution under internal lease arrangements ( could be done via internal accounting practices) or rescue basis due to tech issues.

Aer Lingus parent can not operate UK - xyz under own license due to “B” and more specifically the UK leaving the US/EU open sky’s arrangements and EASA ( which we didn’t have too!) however Aer Linus UK can lease in capacity if needed ( there may be a capacity limit set however it’s not illegal to do so temporarily)

EI-DUZ was substituted in for several days in April due to tech issues

[Rutan16]

Delayed and cancelled Green Flight passengers will be routed via Dublin, Heathrow and potentially Helsinki before handing onto Virgin .

[The96er]

Originally Posted by Rutan16

Delayed and cancelled Green Flight passengers will be routed via Dublin, Heathrow and potentially Helsinki before handing onto Virgin .

EIUK passengers are routinely rerouted onto VS during times of disruption.

As for using EI mainline A/C, yes, they have used EI reg before, however, this is all planned in advanced and they must use mainline crews. I’m assuming when Una Due Tfc posted regarding the spare aircraft, that the implication is that you could just fly in the spare from DUB and operate by EIUK crews which is not the case.

[DP.]

A friend was affected by a cancellation on the JFK a couple of weeks ago and was rebooked via DUB the following day with a hefty layover, so would assume the VS was full if usual practice is to use them.