Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
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Just when everyone is a little upbeat about the Vaccine and travel firms are expecting holidays to resume in summer 2021 we hear this from the first minister of Scotland. Scots advised not to book any holidays. It's a joke how the hell does she know where we will be in 2021. Scotland is becoming a dictatorship, maybe its time to change the Saltire from Blue to RED.
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It's a joke how the hell does she know where we will be in 2021.
It comes as a new report prepared by scientific experts shows that travel across the UK and abroad helped being new strains of coronavirus to Scotland over the summer, fuelling a second wave of infections. The paper, which was prepared for the UK Government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, highlighted the role of travel in “reigniting outbreaks of the virus after it has been suppressed”.
Oh really, it has taken this long for experts to state that new transmissions are caused by travel around the UK and abroad ! Never who would have guessed it and I am no expert or scientist. So if they really want to stop it why allow any form of travel/air travel to another infected place or country ? But they did expecting people to self isolate or quarantine, how many really did that ? They will never beat this Virus when travel is allowed anywhere, and it being the main way to transmit it ? The virsu does not move itself we have to move it.
Many on here are blaming the travel ? Its the desperation of some to travel even when advised against it. My cancelled holiday has been re-booked by TUI for late June 2021, I still hold onto some hope but will follow advice at the time, not what some politician is telling me six months ahead of the summer.
My main point was Nicola Sturgeon must have a crystal ball if she knows that travel will still be a problem in the summer of 2021. If the majority of the population take the vaccine we may have a chance of getting back to some kind of normality regarding travel. For those who don't want the vaccine - you run the risk of catching the Virus and spreading it to others, you will not be helping the problem.
Many on here are blaming the travel ? Its the desperation of some to travel even when advised against it. My cancelled holiday has been re-booked by TUI for late June 2021, I still hold onto some hope but will follow advice at the time, not what some politician is telling me six months ahead of the summer.
My main point was Nicola Sturgeon must have a crystal ball if she knows that travel will still be a problem in the summer of 2021. If the majority of the population take the vaccine we may have a chance of getting back to some kind of normality regarding travel. For those who don't want the vaccine - you run the risk of catching the Virus and spreading it to others, you will not be helping the problem.
The paper, which was prepared for the UK Government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, highlighted the role of travel in “reigniting outbreaks of the virus after it has been suppressed”.
My main point was Nicola Sturgeon must have a crystal ball if she knows that travel will still be a problem in the summer of 2021.
Speaking at her media briefing today, the First Minister urged Scots to be cautious when it came to booking trips abroad. "Even if we have managed to get a degree of normality back in Scotland by next summer, we don't know if that will be the case in all other parts of the world," she said. "So it may still be the case we would advise against travel. We would not want people to bring the virus back into Scotland. The future feels a bit brighter than it has done in a long time. But the near future is quite uncertain, and therefore I wouldn't be giving people advice to book holidays for next summer quite at this point."
The UK will probably get enough doses to vaccinate the over 65s by about Easter. There is a much larger question as to when the under 65s will be vaccinated. This will have an impact on people's ability to travel without quarantine
The WHO is keen to ensure that while rich countries are front of the queue for pharma firms, the vulnerable elderly in world's poorer countries should not have to wait until all low risk children in rich countries have been vaccinated. Or in other words, access to vaccine should be based partly on clinical need and not just ability to pay the highest price as vaccine doses are auctioned off
The WHO is keen to ensure that while rich countries are front of the queue for pharma firms, the vulnerable elderly in world's poorer countries should not have to wait until all low risk children in rich countries have been vaccinated. Or in other words, access to vaccine should be based partly on clinical need and not just ability to pay the highest price as vaccine doses are auctioned off
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The Canaries has shown us that even booking a holiday yesterday there is no certainty of travelling even for this weekend.
The first people in Spain that will get vaccinated are people who work in Gibraltar. For the rest of the country they will have to wait until next year.
The first people in Spain that will get vaccinated are people who work in Gibraltar. For the rest of the country they will have to wait until next year.
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Why Scotland though - has Boris said the same ? I see what she is saying but it is like saying dont go out because next summer you might be involved in a car crash ? Probably more cars on the road than people with the virus Nobody knows ?
If we allow any kind of passenger travel the virus will possibly creep back into any country around the world.
If we allow any kind of passenger travel the virus will possibly creep back into any country around the world.
Nicola Sturgeon is being nothing more or less than practical, or if you prefer, honest (a rare trait in politicians).
Anyone booking an overseas trip at present is doing so more in ignorance /hope than expectation.
Anyone booking an overseas trip at present is doing so more in ignorance /hope than expectation.
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It's already in every country in the world and has been for months. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-has-spread/
It's already in every country in the world and has been for months. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-has-spread/
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So anyone who takes a flight oversea's is an ignoramus,well I shall be on my South African ignoramus 3 month tour soon after two ignorant trips to the Canary islands recently.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
So anyone who takes a flight oversea's is an ignoramus,well I shall be on my South African ignoramus 3 month tour soon after two ignorant trips to the Canary islands recently.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Of course the virus is a hoax and travel was never responsible for the spread of that hoax so why restrict travel. Those people seen every day being filmed in ICU’s around the world are all actors.
At least you won’t suffer from having too many tourists around you. Did you get travel insurance?
https://businesstech.co.za/news/gove...navirus-cases/
I shall be on my South African ignoramus 3 month tour soon.
https://businesstech.co.za/news/gove...navirus-cases/
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Nobody if calling you an ignoramus, I said ignorance OR hope.
There are many lies being repeated by politicians in UK presently, Covid-19 isn't one of them, and in point of fact, a prime driver of spread last February was alpine tourism - remember Ischgl?
Nobody if calling you an ignoramus, I said ignorance OR hope.
There are many lies being repeated by politicians in UK presently, Covid-19 isn't one of them, and in point of fact, a prime driver of spread last February was alpine tourism - remember Ischgl?
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So how safe is flying with China bringing out new advice for cabin crew to wear nappies as well as cabin crew to wear medical masks, disposable gloves, caps, goggles, disposable protective clothing and shoe coverings.
Flight crew are also advised to wear a range of protective gear, but not nappies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55269969
Flight crew are also advised to wear a range of protective gear, but not nappies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55269969
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Why is this always lying at the aviation door? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...ry:25.0/zoom:2
Why is this always lying at the aviation door? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...ry:25.0/zoom:2
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Did I mention the word "aviation" anywhere in my posting? I think you'll have to look hard to find it. In point of fact, cruising appears to be a far more effective way of spreading the virus, actually any virus, cruise ships being effectively floating Petri dishes
Did I mention the word "aviation" anywhere in my posting? I think you'll have to look hard to find it. In point of fact, cruising appears to be a far more effective way of spreading the virus, actually any virus, cruise ships being effectively floating Petri dishes