Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
“Unless it is permitted”
Presumably that means the same exemptions (occupations) as it is for no mandatory quarantine.
I have to travel long haul for work reasons in early January. I am gambling on the fact that there will always be a skeleton service for most destinations and only in the rare case would someone be stranded. Would I be right to make that assumption?
Presumably that means the same exemptions (occupations) as it is for no mandatory quarantine.
I have to travel long haul for work reasons in early January. I am gambling on the fact that there will always be a skeleton service for most destinations and only in the rare case would someone be stranded. Would I be right to make that assumption?
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I would only fly direct if possible and would avoid connections with other airlines in case schedules change. Safe journey wherever you are going.
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What is essential travel?
Tier 4 involves no non-essential travel into or out of the level 4 area and limits travel with only essential retail open. Who decides on what is or is not no non-essential travel?
" Ultimately, this a decision for the individual themselves based on the risk and their personal responsibility." So basically this means that you can now travel all over the Scottish mainland !
" Ultimately, this a decision for the individual themselves based on the risk and their personal responsibility." So basically this means that you can now travel all over the Scottish mainland !
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Boris better be making a case very quickly that travel by Santa Claus is permitted.
Millions of parents having kids with nightmares that Santa is not coming would make Poll tax riots look like a childrens tea party.
Boris better be making a case very quickly that travel by Santa Claus is permitted.
Millions of parents having kids with nightmares that Santa is not coming would make Poll tax riots look like a childrens tea party.
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Netherlands ban on all UK flights
Establish a no-fly time for air traffic with passengers from the United Kingdom as of December 20, 2020 at 6 a.m. local time. The flight ban will apply until 1 January 2021 at the latest.
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Ban on flights
Waist of time and money,when are people going to grasp this,it's very simple really,this virus is everywhere on Earth,it shall mutate everywhere on Earth.This crackpot idea that you can stop the mutation around the globe by banning flights from the UK to Holland is just latest idea to hit the overloaded insanity market.
You can't completely stop a specific and geographically localised strain of a virus spreading... but you can erect barriers to slow it down, which then buys you time to deal with it. That time can be used for genetic sequencing of a new strain, and doing further research on whether existing vaccines are effective or if a new modified vaccine needs to be developed
It would not surprise me if other countries impose a ban on flights from the UK
It would not surprise me if other countries impose a ban on flights from the UK
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It's complete madness. "We have evidence that the new variant is 70% more transmissible"... and then no evidence is presented. No studies, no data...
The best I could find about it was in the BMJ, "This variant is strongly associated with where we are seeing increasing rates. It's a correlation but we can't say it's causation".
It's complete madness. "We have evidence that the new variant is 70% more transmissible"... and then no evidence is presented. No studies, no data...
The best I could find about it was in the BMJ, "This variant is strongly associated with where we are seeing increasing rates. It's a correlation but we can't say it's causation".
mike current
Having just watched Van Kerkove from WHO and a UK epidemiologist it is clear you are wrong. The question is 'how much more transmissible is it?' not whether it exists.
Burying heads in the sand a achieves nothing, accepting realism may be unpalatable, but inevitable, and again my sympathy lies will those in travel, tourism and hospitality sectors, things are likely to be terrible.
Having just watched Van Kerkove from WHO and a UK epidemiologist it is clear you are wrong. The question is 'how much more transmissible is it?' not whether it exists.
Burying heads in the sand a achieves nothing, accepting realism may be unpalatable, but inevitable, and again my sympathy lies will those in travel, tourism and hospitality sectors, things are likely to be terrible.
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You didn't even read my post. Never said it didn't exist. I said, what studies, data and evidence were presented to explain it's 70% more transmissible. 70% is a very specific number, they could have said "a lot", "more" "very transmissible" - but instead it's an actual figure, so I'd expect some exact data to back that up.
I've not been able to find it but perhaps I've been looking in the wrong places.
You didn't even read my post. Never said it didn't exist. I said, what studies, data and evidence were presented to explain it's 70% more transmissible. 70% is a very specific number, they could have said "a lot", "more" "very transmissible" - but instead it's an actual figure, so I'd expect some exact data to back that up.
I've not been able to find it but perhaps I've been looking in the wrong places.
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They can only estimate the increase in transmissability The mere fact that this variant has come to dominate new infections in the SE, at the expense of earlier variants, shows that it spreads much more easily.
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That question was raised this morning. The government, and I agree to reinforce the narrative, used that good old marketing ploy "up to", the new strain is "up to 70% more infectious". That means that it could be 10%, but it is not more than 70%. Further research is ongoing to establish just how more infectious it actually is, and my suspicion is that the increased infections in Kent and Essex have as much to do with Lakeside and Blue Water and Christmas shopping as they may do regarding increased levels of infectionness.
That question was raised this morning. The government, and I agree to reinforce the narrative, used that good old marketing ploy "up to", the new strain is "up to 70% more infectious". That means that it could be 10%, but it is not more than 70%. Further research is ongoing to establish just how more infectious it actually is, and my suspicion is that the increased infections in Kent and Essex have as much to do with Lakeside and Blue Water and Christmas shopping as they may do regarding increased levels of infectionness.
Unless we're suggesting that a newly-mutated virion somehow has the ability to magically communicate with its brothers and sisters hundreds or thousands of miles away to say "hey, guess what's just happened to me!".
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New variant
New variant of the Virus only to be found in the UK,really,hold on a minute.The South African government said on Friday it had identified a new variant of the coronavirus that is driving a second wave of infections.Does that mean no more flights from OR Tambo to Amsterdam? So when this variant is confirmed to be worldwide as soon as,including Holland,what then? Pan Pan Pan,oops sorry,that should be Ban Ban Ban,Quarantine Quarantine Quarantine,Tier Tier Tier!
https://globalnews.ca/news/7533368/c...ases-2-5-mill/
https://globalnews.ca/news/7533368/c...ases-2-5-mill/
There have been over 300 new variants, mutations if you prefer. this one, it appears, has originated in Kent, and apparently is rather more contagious than the one that has been dominant so far in UK, how much more remains to be seen, but the Dutch are worried enough to be extremely cautious with arrivals from UK.