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Old 30th Aug 2018, 17:02
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Agreed, MAN was on an upward trajectory as well. I think the CAX route has some potential, but MAN is an infinitely more useful destination overall. Iíve used it not just for Manchester itself but for other destinations across the north, some served directly from the airportís railway station.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 21:11
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
I love your positivity virginblue, but a short while back Stobart were giving it large about delivering domestic flights for both business and leisure users. Ok, it may be the right decision to axe MAN and GLA, but they said they were in it for the long term. Apparently not. And if SEN - MAN or GLA can't be made to work, exactly what chance does SEN - CAX have next year?
GLA has competition in the form of dozens of daily flights from LCY, STN, LTN, LHR and LGW on 100-200 seaters. CAX has 70 daily seats with no competition.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 07:36
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Of the SEN destinations that were released in the original Flybe winter timetable as operating next March all except MAN and GLA will operate at the original frequencies and schedules. Both MAN and GLA will cease to operate after 6th January 2019 and, as others have said, this seems an odd time to withdraw them rather than run them through to the end of March. The MAN route has certainly produced much more traffic that I had expected it to and I'm surprised they are not persevering with it for longer. I know yield was probably poor but they now seem to be increasing fares in an effort to improving it and yet they cancel the route before the effect of those fare changes can become known.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 09:02
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According to website ch-aviation.com, Stobart " has since confirmed to ch-aviation that the two aircraft will indeed be coming off service for flybe. and will be redeployed elsewhere. A formal announcement is expected to be made in the coming weeks."

I am also a bit puzzled. It may only be an indication that there will be more changes to be announced.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 09:45
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Originally Posted by limited_sight View Post
According to website ch-aviation.com, Stobart " has since confirmed to ch-aviation that the two aircraft will indeed be coming off service for flybe. and will be redeployed elsewhere. A formal announcement is expected to be made in the coming weeks."
Yes. The two based on the Isle of Man which has already been confirmed. Flybe will re-establish a crew base of their own in the IOM, basing two Q400's from the end of March 2019.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 10:00
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"has since confirmed to ch-aviation that the two aircraft will indeed be coming off service for flybe. and will be redeployed elsewhere. A formal announcement is expected to be made in the coming weeks."
Does this refer to the IOM ATR's or the SEN EMB-195's as per the Irish Independent article?
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 11:47
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Does this refer to the IOM ATR's or the SEN EMB-195's as per the Irish Independent article?
The ch-aviation piece says:
Stobart Air (RE, Dublin Int'l) will withdraw two of three EMB-195s that it operates for flybe. (BE, Exeter) under an existing franchise agreement, the Irish Independent has said.

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Stobart Air has since confirmed to ch-aviation that the two aircraft will indeed be coming off service for flybe. and will be redeployed elsewhere.
Clearly it is referring to the E195s. But the ch-aviation story is essentially based on the Irish Independent article.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 22:14
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The two ATR72-500s currently based on the IOM are going back to the leasing company at the end of March 2019 when the contract with Flybe ends.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 22:25
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FlightRadar24 log

Good old Stobart, consistent as ever.

I see tonight BE6258 was due to arrive from DUB to SEN at 22:00 but it's enroute and not due to arrive until 23:32.

Quite unbelievable how they persistently can't run on time schedules. I've never seen a carrier to habitually cock it up so often.

What the hell was the reason this time for a 1 hr 30 min late arrival at SEN.

Let's see can this aircraft push back on time for tomorrow's rotation back to DUB.

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Old 1st Sep 2018, 05:20
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They've switched out G-FBEF from last night, using EI-GGC for the first flight rotation on this morning's BE6251 SEN to DUB.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 05:56
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Here we go again.

Pushed back on time. Value opening to ignition start faulting. Pulled back onto stand reconnected to ground aux power.

Looks like these E195s have seen their days.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 06:14
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Bssed on everthing I'm reading re schedules, the Embraers, and the route withdrawals, my assessment is Stobart will go ACMI for another airline with the existing Flybe-Stobart aircraft. They've got FR to assist easyJet in driving the business at Southend.

Given the level of consolidation in the market and challenging environment around cost (fuel as main item), the case for a big tie up of regionals is greater than ever. Will Flybe get into the Cityjet/Nostrum deal? Otherwise, they'll likely face a big competitive challenge in maintaining the EI contract in a free years when that expires. Equally, is the Flybe takeover question?

Then consider the remaining regionals... the case for many of them standing alone is challenging without specific niche business.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 06:15
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Here we go again.

Pushed back on time. Value opening to ignition start faulting. Pulled back onto stand reconnected to ground aux power.

Looks like these E195s have seen their days.
My goodness. You do hate this operation. Go for a fresh air morning stroll then come back and enjoy some porridge with blueberries.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 06:17
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt View Post
My goodness. You do hate this operation. Go for a fresh air morning stroll then come back and enjoy some porridge with blueberries.
Correct. They are pathetic.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 06:32
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Correct. They are pathetic.
I, too, posted about the delays but I don't believe anybody in Stobart or FlyBe reads this site, so I felt my frustrations should be directed elsewhere. Six months from now, things will have changed. We don't know the full details yet, but it will be different. Hopefully SEN can then recapture it's reputation as a great little alternative London airport to fly from.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 07:38
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Pray where are they going to get ACMI work for E195s (size) and with the 'reputation' they seem to getting!
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 07:44
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo View Post
Pray where are they going to get ACMI work for E195s (size) and with the 'reputation' they seem to getting!
Doesn't have to be ACMI could just dry lease them.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 07:49
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I see tonight BE6258 was due to arrive from DUB to SEN at 22:00 but it's enroute and not due to arrive until 23:32.
What the hell was the reason this time for a 1 hr 30 min late arrival at SEN.
Quite easy to check the reason actually if you look at FR24. The aircraft spent 140 minutes on the ground at SEN during a turnround during the day, thus the delay to the last DUB of the day. Presumably a tech problem or could be crewing of course, it being difficult to find out which.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 10:39
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
Quite easy to check the reason actually if you look at FR24. The aircraft spent 140 minutes on the ground at SEN during a turnround during the day, thus the delay to the last DUB of the day. Presumably a tech problem or could be crewing of course, it being difficult to find out which.
Yes, you can see they had some type of issue earlier yesterday afternoon at SEN, who knows what the cause may have been but based on their history on these aircraft, there's a high probability it was another tech issue yet again.
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