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Old 6th Jul 2019, 08:59
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Huge falls in passenger numbers at SOU - yet this is one of their key bases.

What is the future for this base given it's proximity to LHR?
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Old 6th Jul 2019, 09:04
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
Huge falls in passenger numbers at SOU - yet this is one of their key bases.

What is the future for this base given it's proximity to LHR?
Good if it's served properly. Rich catchment and a far superior passenger experience to any of the London airports. If I lived anywhere south of Farnborough/Aldershot/Guildford and SOU had the flights I needed it would definitely get my money over LHR just for the convenience, time saving and speed through the airport.
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Old 6th Jul 2019, 14:36
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
Huge falls in passenger numbers at SOU - yet this is one of their key bases.

What is the future for this base given it's proximity to LHR?
Is this a poor attempt at trolling? (I note you are a prominent poster on the BOH thread). Are you talking about LHR the airport that is at full capacity? SOU has been a pillar of BEís business for over 15 years and will be in the future. You appreciate people actually need to fly to SOU? Itís the biggest cruise turnaround port in Europe for a start, which involves over 2 million passengers (let alone the many thousands of crew). Please keep your prejudices to the BOH thread.
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Old 6th Jul 2019, 22:32
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So Flybe/Connect have to give up 5 slot pairs at AMS and 3 slot pairs at CDG up as part of the deal, relating to monopoly on these routes to/from Birmingham. Presumably this can easily be solved by upping the aircraft size in the remaining AF/KL flights on these routes and also losing some of the spare capacity.
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Old 7th Jul 2019, 07:18
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Originally Posted by mmeteesside
So Flybe/Connect have to give up 5 slot pairs at AMS and 3 slot pairs at CDG up as part of the deal, relating to monopoly on these routes to/from Birmingham. Presumably this can easily be solved by upping the aircraft size in the remaining AF/KL flights on these routes and also losing some of the spare capacity.
Or more likely reducing capacity and upping fares, increasing yield substantially for AF/KL.
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Old 7th Jul 2019, 07:25
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ATNotts this is far more likely as I doubt anyone else out there would be interested in operating those slots on those routes
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Old 7th Jul 2019, 08:56
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I would have thought that EasyJet (with a base in AMS and an operation at BHX) would look very seriously at this. Amsterdam slots are like rocking horse droppings right now due to the environmental cap on movement numbers.
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Old 7th Jul 2019, 20:26
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
I would have thought that EasyJet (with a base in AMS and an operation at BHX) would look very seriously at this. Amsterdam slots are like rocking horse droppings right now due to the environmental cap on movement numbers.
Could also be a route for Jet2 with their base at BHX and that they already operate to AMS from LBA.
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Old 7th Jul 2019, 21:27
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Originally Posted by goldeneye


Could also be a route for Jet2 with their base at BHX and that they already operate to AMS from LBA.
They will only do that if the hotels are in place for Jet2holidays---that is their game plan for expansion,as has been shown in Budapest and Nice.
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Old 8th Jul 2019, 14:14
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Interesting they have stepped away from the initial blurb of committing to seamless Virgin experience across the network to a new brand experience to be announced shortly. Clearly not so clean cut a plan but at least it got the go ahead which is a positive for all concerned. Interesting times ahead.
The article does still say "
  • An enhanced customer experience in line with the Virgin brand, which Connect Airways will use in due course
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  • once Connect Airways joins the Virgin family and operates under its new brand

    Implication being the Virgin word is going to be in there somewhere...(Virgin Regional)
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:56
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Originally Posted by clipstone1
under its new brand
What do we think of the rumoured 'Virgin UK' brand
Dull? uninspiring? predictable and safe?
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 20:01
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How about Virgin Connect?
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 21:05
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Prefer Virgin UK to Virgin Connect
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 21:11
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I think they should just go for Virgin Atlantic. Virgin Little Red was just odd.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 21:16
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF
I think they should just go for Virgin Atlantic. Virgin Little Red was just odd.
I think the Atlantic part will be dropped eventually and it'll be Virgin UK as a whole with Flybe becoming Virgin connect to differentiate them.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 21:36
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Could we see the Virgin Express name making a reappearance ?
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 22:31
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Originally Posted by jmccrew
Prefer Virgin UK to Virgin Connect
Virgin connect is better future-proofed should they ever operate between points outsider the U.K. or as a feeder elsewhere
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 01:59
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1


Virgin connect is better future-proofed should they ever operate between points outsider the U.K. or as a feeder elsewhere
Given Flybe merged with BA Connect itís not exactly original and given Virgin is forward thinking ,referencing a name used by their biggest rival is something I would think they would try and avoid
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 06:34
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
I think the Atlantic part will be dropped eventually and it'll be Virgin UK as a whole with Flybe becoming Virgin connect to differentiate them.
Thatís exactly my train of thought, and I was shot down on Twitter for suggesting they would drop Ďatlanticí. How many Ďnormalí people refer to them in their full name??
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Old 10th Jul 2019, 08:11
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
Thatís exactly my train of thought, and I was shot down on Twitter for suggesting they would drop Ďatlanticí. How many Ďnormalí people refer to them in their full name??
Virgin Atlantic is the recognised Airline brand name. Dropping Atlantic or switching to Virgin UK wont distinguish them from all the other Virgin brands out there.
Virgin Atlantic Airlines was the second Virgin brand created, after Virgin Records. At the time there were no other Virgin brands to get confused with and the Atlantic tag has evolved as the Airline. Now you have Virgin Money, Trains, Cruises, Media, Mobile and many more current and previous brands.
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