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What does the bearded grinnng git's image bring to the party? Surely the brand is now almost worthless after repeated failure. The train company became "the delayed Virgin train" so frequent was that announcement. All the Virgin businesses are now just a smear of red and zero involvement from Dickie. It woud be interesting before anyone else pays Branson to use the name to carry out some reseach as to what the public impression of the brand is now.

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What does the bearded grinnng git's image bring to the party? Surely the brand is now almost worthless after repeated failure. The train company became "the delayed Virgin train" so frequent was that announcement. All the Virgin businesses are now just a smear of red and zero involvement from Dickie. It woud be interesting before anyone else pays Branson to use the name to carry out some reseach as to what the public impression of the brand is now.

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I was agreeing with you, then I mentioned rivets. I do agree that he's probably spot on with the name, however, who really gives a toss? The name will be the name. This surely is a discussion for spotters corner.

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Come on guys, take your rose tinted glasses off for a moment. I posted in reply to Blackfriar’s point about whether BE’s brand was less tainted than Virgin’s from a reliability perspective. In my humble opinion it is not, and I am sure I am not the only one with that view. That is not to say that BE is not a well know brand though, and it will certainly be the end of an era if it does disappear. Fingers crossed Connect continue BE’s tradition of serving the regions, rather than scaling it back to just act as a feeder for Virgin’s long haul.

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The name is clearly difficult as Virgin Atlantic don't own their name or brand, so VS can't just slap "connect", or whatever onto the Virgin name. Its complicated because they need permission from the Virgin Group, to agree a licensing fee and there is at the added complication of Stobart and Cyrus, who may not feel that "Virgin Something" is the right move for the business - especially if Virgin want a steep royalty fee. The use of the Virgin brand is not without complication. The former Virgin Blue had branding problems when they launched international operations from Australia, firstly they used the "Pacific Blue", "Polynesian Blue" and "V Australia" brands before rebranding the entire operation as "Virgin Australia". Im sure something will be worked out, but it might not be swift.

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Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.
Since when is DSA not an operating base? 
I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.
We are aware that on the last flight of the previous evenings schedule, the aircraft that operated your flight, was struck by an airbridge at Paris CDG, causing the aircraft to be taken out of service for extensive maintenance. We can see that the aircraft on the morning of the 8th, had to be flown back to Doncaster Sheffield, to operate the day's schedule, albeit it with a delay to the first flight operating on the morning schedule. This was due to Air Traffic Controlling restrictions on being given the permission to fly the aircraft out of Paris CDG, and only utilising the slots given to fly the aircraft back to Doncaster. We can also say that due to Doncaster Sheffield not being an airport that is a Flybe operating base, the option of an aircraft change was not feasible, and that flights on the day's schedule would experience reactionary delays. With the above circumstances taken into account, this does mean we are able to defend such claims out of the control of the airline, and that operating out of an airport that is not an operating base, does cause restrictions on available alternatives. As such, we are continuing to deny this compensation claim in line with the above reasons.

I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.

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Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.
Since when is DSA not an operating base?
I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.
Since when is DSA not an operating base?

I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.

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Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.
Since when is DSA not an operating base?
I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.
Since when is DSA not an operating base?

I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.
It is the way they insult your intelligence and don't give a damn. I was on the ill-fated Florence - BHX service back in 2014 and after about 50 of the 85 pax had boarded things came to halt and the captain was busy on his mobile before announcing to those on board that the handler had misplaced the push-back bar as they only had one (really). However around an hour later the remaining pax boarded, the tug connected and we departed about 75 minutes late.
We arrived 61 minutes late but during the taxi in at BHX pax were warned that not all bags were on board.....hold on.....clue.... aircraft 175,,clue... temperatures in the mid 20's and clue....the airport was Florence which I think you can join the jots yourself to get the real reason for the delay
Bingo within a month or so the 175 was pulled from the route, the 195 appeared and operated fairly successfully but eventually the route was pulled despite great loads.
It was at the time of 60x60x60 and as it was 61 minutes late I put my claim but also disputing the reason given - I got the £60 voucher within days but no confirmation of the real reason for the delay.
Pete
