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Old 19th Jun 2020, 18:34
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Originally Posted by VHF4
Fantastic news for the South West in particular i assume Exeter will be the main base , Letís hope they can re employ everyone ASAP , Doesnít say when they might start reemploying, hopefully soon
I think you need to take a reality check !
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 18:40
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Originally Posted by The96er
I think you need to take a reality check !
OK they might not be re employing everyone but they will need to employ the bulk of staff surely .
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 19:18
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Covid was the final in a very long list of final straws. Any future plan to relaunch must start with a total 100% cull of past management not to mention a business model that is stuck too, not trying to be everything to everyone, that just doesn't work.
So exactly what would be the point of relaunching it?
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 19:21
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Well very few of the airlines which are still solvent are keeping all their staff ... or, in many cases, even "the bulk" of them. The trading environment prevailing now is way worse than that which applied when FlyBe ceased ops. And rival carriers have staked claims on several of FlyBe's more attractive routes. Certain other routes have not attracted interest for a reason.

I (regrettably) suspect that any revived FlyBe 2.0 will be a very limited operation compared with the original. And it has to be doubtful that it will take to the air at all.

But I would dearly love to be proven wrong.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 19:31
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Engines not running - as simple as rolling down a slope with no brakes?

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...rdeen-airport/
I won't lie, that's absolutely hilarious. Pretty sure H&S will have a thing or two to say about staff actions there too.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 20:50
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Originally Posted by VHF4
OK they might not be re employing everyone but they will need to employ the bulk of staff surely .
Do you still believe in Father Christmas too? If this happens I'll eat my trousers. This is the same crowd that are trying to prove their "credentials" to get hold of Virgin Australia.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 21:50
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This reminds me of when Air Europe, for whom I used to work, went bust. There was a stream of dubious characters and enterprises through the door, all promising a restart. I don’t need to tell you what (didn’t) happen.
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Old 20th Jun 2020, 04:15
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An advisor (whatever he/she does at Cyrus) has said they have not given up on flybe but it certainly looked that way pre March 5th.

Now while they are looking at Virgin Australia, are saying that they want to save flybe. Why wasn't this proclamation of commitment made anytime soon from March 5th.

Looks like spin to me but who knows.



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Old 20th Jun 2020, 21:54
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.... looks like a fiasco! pardon the spanish music..
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 17:53
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Re Cyrus

I would humbly suggest you ignore anything anyone from Cyrus Capital says until the first aeroplane pushes back. Rumours doing the rounds towards the end of last year were that Cyrus wanted out. The impression was that Virgin were the driving force (ha ha) while the going was good, Stobart wanted a slice of the regional action and were punching above their weight with another agenda and Cyrus Capital were in it for the short term and wanted to make some quick bucks.

As has been said on multiple forums, the 3 ďpartnersĒ were very strange bedfellows and while any one of the 3 might have taken a good shot at sorting it out, the fact that all 3 seemed to have different agendas made the whole thing a bit of a farce really.

But the main problem which has been highlighted by numerous people before was that Flybe had too much baggage and a business model that was a joke.

IF, and I hope it happens, someone with an ounce of business common sense and a lot of financial backing steps up and tries to fill the complete void that Flybeís demise has left, then Iíll be cheering loudly. Too late for me, but there are hundreds of top quality people out there that will be an asset to anyone that takes them on. But will a future organisation use the Dash 8.....................?!!
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 18:47
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I think even the name Flybehas become a toxic brand around the UK so whatever happens the end result will not be Flybe.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 19:58
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Flylo.......
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 20:38
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Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit
Flylo.......
Joking aside, imagine if Stelios continued to offload his easy holding and popped up with easyFly.
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 21:36
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Originally Posted by JSCL
Joking aside, imagine if Stelios continued to offload his easy holding and popped up with easyFly.
Fun fact, EasyFly S.A. is a Colombian airline which easyGroup Holdings once sued
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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 16:29
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It is a joke I have made before, you can fill the space with a BElow cost airline. Sorry!
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 04:15
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The investor who allowed the airline to fold is saying they haven't forgot about the airline they let fold. WTAF
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 14:47
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Originally Posted by cabsav
The investor who allowed the airline to fold is saying they haven't forgot about the airline they let fold. WTAF
Because it wasn’t this investor that pulled out. It was Virgin that pulled the plug.

regardless, if Flybe raises from the ashes again it won’t have the heavy chains and shackles of the debt and costs of those flipping 195 and 175 holding it back. So in a very unfortunate way it will be a better and stronger company after going through the administration process.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 15:12
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1013

Iíll believe it when I see it.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 15:42
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Originally Posted by Set 1013
Because it wasnít this investor that pulled out. It was Virgin that pulled the plug.

regardless, if Flybe raises from the ashes again it wonít have the heavy chains and shackles of the debt and costs of those flipping 195 and 175 holding it back. So in a very unfortunate way it will be a better and stronger company after going through the administration process.
Thats what I heard that, but wasnt sure at the time, that Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital wants to make this work with franchise agreement with Virgin
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 17:32
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The AOC is gone...The resurrection will be the same as a new airline with massive set up costs unless you buy an existing airline with an AOC and no debt.
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