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Old 27th Jun 2019, 19:03
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Minimum wage in the UK is £8.21 which is EUR9.15 per hour (using Google currency converter)

Swissport as far as I know uses 25+ minimum wage for all staff on minimum wage (regardless of their age)
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 19:28
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Are we speaking about two different roles here? Baggage handler in the uk for swissport and Passenger service/ramp agent in Belgium also for swissport...or have I missed something?
Why is the UK yet again the poor relation when it comes to pay?
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 22:06
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Originally Posted by caaardiff
Handling agents in the UK struggle to recruit for peak season operations, mainly because UK airports are so seasonal, there are several handlers fighting for the same business and want the cheapest deal. Airlines get the service they pay for. If they paid more for service, Handlers and service providers could pay their employees more attractive wages and recruit to full potential.
If Swissport, or any handler for that matter, were so sh!t, the Airlines wouldn't stay with them.
Loco airlines are the main protagonists at this for constantly demanding lower fees, airports with good timekeeping/safety are holding the bad ones up who arent even payed unless everything is ok!
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Old 28th Jun 2019, 01:59
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Originally Posted by Matty Rich 83
Are we speaking about two different roles here? Baggage handler in the uk for swissport and Passenger service/ramp agent in Belgium also for swissport...or have I missed something?
Why is the UK yet again the poor relation when it comes to pay?
Because they been allowed to get away with it for years.
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Old 28th Jun 2019, 06:43
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Originally Posted by Matty Rich 83
Are we speaking about two different roles here? Baggage handler in the uk for swissport and Passenger service/ramp agent in Belgium also for swissport...or have I missed something?
Why is the UK yet again the poor relation when it comes to pay?
Two different roles yes, that is true. I don't work for Swissport now, but I used to and made about the same a month.
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Old 29th Jun 2019, 07:30
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Most ground staff I see at UK airports do a decent job...can see why their demotivated though with lack of pay rises therefore cost of living always rises but take home pay doesn’t. Lack of unions in the uk of course doesn’t help!
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Old 29th Jun 2019, 09:27
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Jet2 staff at BHX put others to shame-employed by the airline not an Agency.
It really does show,and at outstations as well
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Old 29th Jun 2019, 09:49
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More delays and cancellations

Originally Posted by RogueOne
The majority of the delays were down to a lack of Swissport staff available, they were doing one plane at a time and prioritising everyone but BEE.. The inbound EDI sat on the ground for 2hrs.. before a dispatcher even acknowledged them & the inbound bags could be offloaded, and the outbound bags for the ABZ loaded on. Worst I've ever seen from Swissport, they've been having a bad time lately.
Thank you for all the replies and needless to say it carried on throughout the week but today even more delays and cancellations.

12 sectors gone today (around 17%) already on a much reduced schedule (6 yesterday) one four hour delay and now two with two hours plus delays as one has changed to cancelled (LRH plus BES & EGC now) and none have gone within 15 minutes until the Knock at 10.15.

I assume there isn't a viable short-term fix without making permanent route cancellations and that won't come until late summer.

There seems to be a strategy at BHX, cancelling the domestic routes without competition and train is an alternative, BHD comes off lightly not wanting to hand pax over to easyjet and if a European route gets cancelled it is usually one of the Amsterdam flights (5 a day) or Berlin (no competition).

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Old 29th Jun 2019, 10:17
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And, whilst I haven't kept a very close eye on them, I have noticed that services to/from Manchester have also been effected - possibly only 2 or 3 per day but it all adds up.
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Old 29th Jun 2019, 16:53
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Originally Posted by Scottie Dog
And, whilst I haven't kept a very close eye on them, I have noticed that services to/from Manchester have also been effected - possibly only 2 or 3 per day but it all adds up.
Wednesday night was a bit of a mess. Quite.a few cancellations and several delays of 2 hours+
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Old 29th Jun 2019, 20:24
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Do not allow them to organise a party at a brewery.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 10:07
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A couple of SOU departures had to carry out fuel stops at BOH yesterday due to the high air temps, all a bit embarrassing really.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 12:30
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Originally Posted by Dropoffcharge
A couple of SOU departures had to carry out fuel stops at BOH yesterday due to the high air temps, all a bit embarrassing really.
No different from the times when their BAe 146s had to do the same if the OAT went above about 25C. If their starter strip gets planning approval and the pending tree work south of the runway is completed the increase in take-off weights may at last resolve the issue.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 21:06
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A couple of SOU departures had to carry out fuel stops at BOH yesterday due to the high air temps
At least one of these was apparently a Q400, which I've not heard of before, but it was going to ALC.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 19:38
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Flybe “Crew Shortages”

Some click bait here; but can’t say I blame the crew!

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...rport-16512401
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 20:21
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Depends a bit on what sort of payoff Flybe is likely to give. If they are generous and make details of their geneeosity known to staff then they will stick around. Pay the legal minimum (1 week per year of employment ?) then not in the least surprised that cabin crew have decided to leave as soon as they find a new job.

There was a similiar story shortly before bmibaby shut down
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 13:15
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More bad publicity for FlyBe - group of passengers denied boarding in AMS as they were disrupted; group plays racist card and claims it's because they're black. BBC picks the story and runs with it as though the airline were in the wrong.

Sometime FlyBe deserves what they get; on this occasion perhaps not. Kudos for the airline staff for denying them boarding and potentially causing discomfort to other paying passengers!
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 13:36
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Acquisition has been cleared: https://www.flybe.com/media/news/1907/0705
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 14:18
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".....providing more choice for customers across the UK"
Suspect Flybe customers at CWL, DSA and a few other locations may beg to differ.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 17:39
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Interesting they have stepped away from the initial blurb of committing to seamless Virgin experience across the network to a new brand experience to be announced shortly. Clearly not so clean cut a plan but at least it got the go ahead which is a positive for all concerned. Interesting times ahead.
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