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Old 16th Jan 2018, 20:41
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The company would never have 'paid' the pensions of former employees - that is what the pension scheme is for. Given the scheme was closed to new employees and according to the accounts any necessary company contributions have been made, there seems little point in Peel remaining in the scheme?
If there is a shortfall in the company pension scheme it needs to be covered.

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Old 16th Jan 2018, 20:56
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Defined benefit pension schemes

Your employer is responsible for making sure there’s enough money in a defined benefit pension to pay each member the promised amount.


https://www.gov.uk/workplace-pension...r-your-pension
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 21:12
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Maybe Beefer needs to take a part time finance course before next years results are published at Companies House?
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 12:46
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Hoped with the departure of the Fokkers and the intro.of the new aircraft KLM would settle down,but looking at the movements so far this year there have been quite a few non ops?
Maybe the reduction to 2 a day is being phased gradually now!

The ABZ schedules also seem to be suffering in the same way..looks like those figures on the CAA website were right?
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 13:44
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Since my previous post on the subject I've heard KLM are having crewing issues, either way it's not anything at DTVAs end

DTVA haven't submitted any figures yet, a note says so on the CAA website
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 15:43
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Please see this post I have linked for some information on changes to Flybe/Eastern Airways operations from Durham Tees Valley Airport. Durham Tees Valley-7

From the public comments made by the management of KLM cityhopper and Loganair it seems like they happy with Durham Tees Valley airport operations. I have not seen or heard anything publicly from Flybe/Eastern Airways management but it seems like they plan to continue at Durham Tees Valley Airport from looking at the planned changes to the schedule.

It seems like a lot cancelled flights are due to weather and crewing issues and it's affecting all airports not just Durham Tees Valley Airport.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 19:53
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I suspect the CAA November stats for ABZ at least will be misleading. The reports are listed in alphabetical order of departing airport so ABZ reports the figures for pretty much all routes from there. Where the aircraft is on a multi-leg service, the numbers are lumped together - so all ABZ-MME-NWI or ABZ-MME-HUY pax would be reported as ABZ-NWI or ABZ-HUY even if they got off the aircraft at MME and it continued without them to NWI or HUY. With both operators flying legs beyond MME in November, the figures will not give a true reflection of the ABZ-MME market itself. Looking at the growth in pax on HUY and NWI, I'd guess many of those could well be MME pax.
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 10:42
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Anyone know how many snow ploughs etc.available ? Canít believe itís taken so long to clear the runway and apron etc.

We were talking about cancellations earlier and while the majority under stand weather problems and effects on operations...it still doesnít instill much confidence in flying from here when so many flights seem to be cancelled for whatever reason...itís a fragile time.
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 15:19
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Issues at AMS today due to weather

Amsterdam airport cancels all flights due to severe storms | The Independent
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 15:30
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Notice Newcastle had Amsterdam cancellations also..must Be a lot of NE folk stuck over there at mo. And others of course!,
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 13:03
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I believe there was a heavier fall of snow over Teesside and then it froze. Regarding ice clearance, better to be safe than sorry!
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 14:02
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The airport increased their snow clearing equipment a couple of years ago and I think a couple more bits might have transferred up from Doncaster just prior to this winter
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 22:15
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Restriction is for aircraft related industry, so if they wanted to open a car factory or science park they cannot under the current plans.
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 04:17
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Selling the family’s jewels comes to mind. It is much easier to sell off parts of their airport landbank for an instant profit than have the tedious task of running an airport badly for a small return if the times were good and for a loss when the airport is struggling.

Peel Group state in their first sentence that they own 15,000 hectares of land because they are basically a land and real estate company. They go on to say that their substantial land holdings offers a wealth of opportunities.

Flicking through their website reveals a small section on aviation where a paragraph each is devoted to Liverpool and Robin Hood Airports and nothing about Teeside.

Look at a company like MAG or Aena who are focused on running a portfolio of airports and their airports are all listed with a description of each because that is what they focus on.

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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 10:06
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Stockton On Tees
Publication Draft Local Plan
Regulation 19 Consultation – September 2017


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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 14:33
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Interesting link - thanks. It's clear from the plan that permission for development on the site is linked to the international connectivity the airport brings (somebody should send KLM a copy!).

Also, if the report about Peel seeking to remove the Airport related use for 50ha on the southside is correct, that will mean the entire southside will be available for general use (who'd have thought!)
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 15:51
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Decent pax figures again for November, comments on the movements site make for interesting reading
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 18:11
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Am I being dense- ABZ 1,470, AMS 8,318, NWI 235 Total 13,341 - what's the 3,500 difference?
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 18:17
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I think transit passengers are muddying the waters..not sure if they technically should be added to airport passenger figures as they don’t always use the facilities,or do they get off and on again?
Those ABZ figures are definitely dodg6 somewhere.
AMS great increase but as mentioned a lot of cancellations over the last few weeks and the network wide reductions will not help any airport to increase the figures?
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 20:54
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Aberdeen Passenger figures

Yes seems quite confusing.. sometimes you wish the airport might blow its' own trumpet about passenger figures, if they are good!

From what I can see using Terminal and Transit passengers pdf from CAA website there were 11841 terminal passengers and 1299 transit passengers, which equals the 13140.

So if we use the 11841, and minus the other routes figures (including the HUY,LBA etc figures) this leaves 3045 to go to Aberdeen, which is around double last year. In Loganair's press release they said they were carrying 66%, so 2000 with Loganair and 1000 with Eastern/Flybe.
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