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Old 10th Nov 2017, 19:27
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The Facts...

August....+1% passengers. Actually. Plus.
71 passengers
Amsterdam. Squits....
Aberdeen. Minus 3% @ 1463

September

Minus12% 10466 pax

Aberdeen -13%
Amsterdam -9%
Domestic total -20%

Sorry guys something has to improve..and soon or PEEL will be gone??
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 19:37
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Sorry meant to add..in the all encompassing football world as the Echo said today....if this was the Boro ,mackems or any other club..they (management) would be long gone....
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 19:57
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zed3 have you tried A171, A174, A66 straight to DTVA no idea why you are going through Yarm.
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Figures are set to improve and since when is an airport comparable to a football club
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N707ZS... thanks for that. I was trying to avoid Middlesborough, wrongly it seems!
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Old 11th Nov 2017, 18:44
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RR- not sure my self re the football analogy with the airport..it was a Northern Echo quote..however possibly some mileage in that??

What I am intrigued by is your prophecy of increased passenger figures..All time low this year since 1972..so I suppose any increase will be welcome..not sure where it’s going to come from? Aberdeen in the short term until one of the two airlines pull off the route.Amsterdam..slightly bigger aircraft,but loads are static if not declining,last month at least.
Losing Newmarket and Omega short term charter flights is a big loss?
Look forward to seeing what the new Short Break holiday company provide..Seville so far.
Unless PEEL have something up their sleeve...
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Yes my dig was aimed at the Northern Echo article, there is no comparison whatsoever, two completely different entities with completely different ergonomics (I think that's the right word).

Based on my observations (and admittedly I only see perhaps just over one third of the flights), Loganair appear to be doing slightly better than I for one expected, and whilst Loganair are winning the battle Eastern have also seen an increase brought on by their arrival and they are very close behind, so I expect passenger figures on Aberdeen to rocket. It might not show on Octobers figures, but Novembers will make for interesting reading I'm sure. If current levels maintain I would imagine we'll keep both operators.
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I think the Aberdeen will depend very much on what deals Bristow (Eastern) and Bond (Loganair) have and what the yields are rather than loads... there could be a situation where the flights are paid for before anyone sits down!
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Bond Offshore Helicopters became a Babcock International Group company when Babcock acquired the Avincis group in May 2014. It's now called Babcock Mission Critical Services Offshore.

I don't think either flight are linked directly to the heliports or helicopters operators.

It's going to be interesting see the new figures for Durham Tees Valley - Aberdeen. Now the extra flights have started and the Humberside passengers are now going via Durham Tees Valley Airport.

Before the downturn in O&G both Durham Tees Valley And Humberside were each carrying over 35,000 per year on their Aberdeen routes.
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 06:34
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Jolly thanks for that info.

Trying to get my head round 35k passengers between DTV and ABZ,what year was that?
Amazing as it’s now less than 1500 per month!
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Those passenger numbers are from 2014.

Durham Tees Valley airports catchment area has the most people working offshore in North Sea after Aberdeenshire.

Because of the history of the heavy industry in the catchment area of Durham Tees Valley airport lots people work away from home.

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The new mayor of Teesside(with a form of government backing?) would like to buy DTV .

PEEL. Would like to retain their interest..

So we have 2 suitors..comon Guys,let’s recap and see what the future holds and what is the best for the area...

Before you all shout..there are so many postings on this issue it’s hard to keep up,so let’s précis for all?
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First question to ask is what's the Mayor budget?

Next would be is an airport the sort of thing he should be spending it on?

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Old 14th Nov 2017, 18:08
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Mayor cannot afford it.
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Yes but he’s not paying it out of his salary!!! Does he actually have a budget..or more realistically do the local authorities have an airport budget..probably not?

So round one to PEEL with their massive backing...and bank balance.

Round 2 anyone?
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Round 2 to the public at the next mayoral elections?

Also, what would the mayor do if he bought it? I would suggest that making it easier for the good people of Teesside to go on holiday isn't a great use of public money, so the "public interest" argument would be to increase the regionals global connectivity to attract inward investment and facilitate international trade.

So what routes do you need - maybe LHR? While BA would be the preferred operator they already fly out of LBA and NCL, so you're probably looking at a flyBe DHC-8 type operation (if you can get the slots). Where else - DUB? Again EI would be the preferred operator, but again they fly from LBA and NCL.

What other options are there?
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In a time when local authorities are told by central government to deliver x millions in savings every year or whatever, you can't have Mayors going around taking on facilities that lose 2 million per annum.

And as SWBKCB hints, he wouldn't be able to do any better or any more than Peel, or at least not without upping the annual loss which is no way to run a business.
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So still on round 2. Looks like the mayor is on a loser?
So all eggs in the PEEL basket...?
Round 3....PEEL, Mayor. Or maybe another way.?

Some great input on this forum...outside the box anyone?
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Old 14th Nov 2017, 21:39
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The deal provides for the transfer of significant powers for employment and skills, transport, planning and investment from central government to the Tees Valley. It paves the way for further devolution over time and for the reform of public services to be led by Tees Valley. It enables the Combined Authority to create an Investment Fund, through a 30 year initial allocation of funding for capital financing of at least £15 million a year. Tees Valley will in addition have access to the Local Growth Fund and will benefit from new Enterprise Zones, subject to the current bidding round.
This document says at least £15 million a year to fund everything a mayor desires! So won't cover the cost of buying an airport. Might get him Fishburn.
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Debate on Future of Durham Tees Valley Airport is taking place in Westminster Hall, Houses of Parliament on Wednesday 22nd November by Phil Wilson MP (Newton Aycliffe) Scheduled at 11.00am - 11.30am
https://calendar.parliament.uk/calen...17/11/22/Daily

Should be available to watch on line at Parliament TV: Parliamentlive.tv - Guide
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