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Old 19th Dec 2017, 02:45
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The same charter operator is offering these at Norwich.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 06:44
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EGPO full air ambulance reasons for moving can be found in the media. They supposedly have offices and training facilities at different bases and want them all in the same place. At DTVA they have part of an old hangar and a large portacabin, we know there is room to build all they want but perhaps there is a cheaper option. Urlay Nook is the remains of a chrome works which is mainly concrete pads where the plant and warehouses were and an office block of futuristic design. The ground is probably seriously contaminated with nasty chemicals, so I wonder if they have considered that. Obviously no good for housing.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 21:54
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From an Ultralight operator up the roads Facebook page:

For those affected by the closure of Durham Aerosports, we'd like to offer you 10% off your training here at Eshott.
Other than this I can't find any sign of them having shut down.
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 10:57
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EGPO: there would have to be a Letter of Agreement between the air amb and DTVA ATC that specifies what prior communication has to be made before a helicopter can take off. I imagine the air amb ops staff would have a direct line to ATC and as soon as they get a call-out they would hit that button at the same time as the helicopter crew were being given the incident details.
There might be scope - if the helipad location, orientation and surrounding obstacles allow - for some sort of emergency provision that, in the event of inability to contact ATC in time, permits the heli to get airborne on a specified south-easterly heading, perhaps with a height restriction, without clearance. But there won't be any arrangement that contains the remotest possibility that a heli might appear right next to the final approach in front of traffic on a c.1.5nm final (descending through about 500ft).
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 11:45
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
If they all operate!! Web site is awful to book on!!
Or you could always book with a independant travel agents & support a local business. Our local agency are giving a discount to match the Airport Developement Fee
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 12:44
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I'm willing to bet the caravan site is no less secure than any other, it's just typical of DTVAs luck that it should happen here
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 14:27
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Security

Caravan security is rated by the insurance professionals and the more secure the location, the lower your premium. There are a number of gold rated sites around that are manned, have security gates, check in/out procedures, lighting and cameras and as a result have had zero incidents.

I don't know what DTVAs security rating is. On the face of it, it should be excellent given it's an airport however on inspection, you can see that a number of the measures mentioned above aren't overtly there (I stand to be corrected).

I would never store my unit there.
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 15:33
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Wake me up when someone sets a plane on fire...
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 16:38
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I don't know what DTVAs security rating is.
CASSOA GOLD rated storage facility

Caravan & Motorhome Storage
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 17:18
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Suspect it may not be gold much longer!

Anyway, back to aviation.....
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 22:24
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Speaking of costs, CAA stats show an average of 5 pax per flight using the Norwich route.

I know it's a tag-on to the ABZ flight, but how is it economical to have (I assume) full security and handling in place for so few people? It's not even as though there are other flights anywhere near the same time to spread the cost.
Someone from Loganair must have read your post? NWI tag on dropped eff 05/01/18.

ABZ continues
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 23:53
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That's madness, not even the harshest of airlines would chop a route that fast, shame on them for not allowing time for growth
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 03:03
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Originally Posted by NorthSouth
EGPO: there would have to be a Letter of Agreement between the air amb and DTVA ATC that specifies what prior communication has to be made before a helicopter can take off. I imagine the air amb ops staff would have a direct line to ATC and as soon as they get a call-out they would hit that button at the same time as the helicopter crew were being given the incident details.
There might be scope - if the helipad location, orientation and surrounding obstacles allow - for some sort of emergency provision that, in the event of inability to contact ATC in time, permits the heli to get airborne on a specified south-easterly heading, perhaps with a height restriction, without clearance. But there won't be any arrangement that contains the remotest possibility that a heli might appear right next to the final approach in front of traffic on a c.1.5nm final (descending through about 500ft).

Many thanks for the reply, that wascvery informative.
And kind of what I was asking .
So you have answered my question .
Merry Christmas to you and all.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 06:56
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Originally Posted by No-More-Bullschit
That's madness, not even the harshest of airlines would chop a route that fast, shame on them for not allowing time for growth
or well done to LM for giving it a go and then being flexible enough to recognize that something isn't working and getting out quick before any damage is done .

Always easy to spend somebody else's money...
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 08:00
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Is there an official press release or note on a web site anywhere? From Loganair.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 08:19
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Unlikely to advertise bad news, but not bookable through their website after 05/01.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 14:43
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Thanks Beafer, is this your new years resolution, useful information!!
We thought you had been arrested for torching the caravans
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 14:48
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Norwich to Durham was always going to be a strange route. Nowhere to nowhere springs to mind.
Five passengers a day.

“Unfortunately, the Norwich – Durham route wasn’t performing in line with expectations with no signs of improving so we’ve taken the decision to withdraw the service from January 7th”
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 20:19
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History..tells us it wouldn’t work.

The next question is who goes first on the ABZ route?? Because someone will...and we will be back to square one..
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 20:31
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I really thought the amount of people working offshore from Norwich would have translated into better figures. You don't know until you try, but I guess forward bookings didn't show an upward trend.
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