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Old 4th Jan 2018, 15:27
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Allegedly a conflict of interest, new Councillors appointed in their place.
Who knows something that we don't know?
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Forgive me if it's obvious but what would amount to a conflict of interest
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Being a member of the Mayors Tees Valley cabinet and on the board of the airport company while the Mayor has pledged to buy it.
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So have they left of their own accord or have DTVA instigated this? And perhaps more worryingly is this an indication the mayor might be having some success?
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November CAA stats - no AMS figures.

Still early days.

ABERDEEN 1,470 1,590 -7.55
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Yep still early days but as forecast,but probably a little surprising still ,are these ABZ figures.I had heard loads were appaling but 14 flights a day means only one thing..something or someone has got to give.
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Aberdeen is not doing appalling, it is doing very well, I don't trust those figures
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CAA stats are often dodgy and why no Amsterdam figures..surely the airports reporting send all figures and don’t pick and choose which routes they supply ?
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Re Beafers entry,Concerning the pay back due this year of £15 million...where is that dosh going to come from? Hope it’s not from the sale of the airport land for housing..remember PEELS. Statement to plough everything back into the airport..does that count?.
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Old 15th Jan 2018, 20:25
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The company would never have 'paid' the pensions of former employees - that is what the pension scheme is for. Given the scheme was closed to new employees and according to the accounts any necessary company contributions have been made, there seems little point in Peel remaining in the scheme?
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Some interesting remarks throughout the latest accounts such as page 14, section 1.9 ?
There isn't a section 1.9 on page 14?

Note the bit about their land bank!
What about it??

Re Beafers entry,Concerning the pay back due this year of £15 million...where is that dosh going to come from?
That isn't what the accounts say.

The latest accounts reveal that payments are being made to other Peel companies.
Depends what you mean by "reveal" - it's in there every year....

Maybe the council leaders started to look at the figures and decided to jump ship
or maybe the public statement that's been made is true?
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Seems rather outrageous regarding Peel and the Teeside workers pensions when no doubt the directors of Peel will have made sure that their own pension pots will be lined in gold.

Peel seem to be masters of blackmail and call all the shots. They went into the airport with their eyes open, made a mess of it and now expect everyone else to pay for there incompetence.

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SWBKCB. Page 22 item 9. Creditors...amounts falling due within one year. 15.8 million....that was the figure I noticed,maybe I’m reading it wrong?
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Page 2 is more interesting to me.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Peel seem to be masters of blackmail and call all the shots. They went into the airport with their eyes open, made a mess of it and now expect everyone else to pay for there incompetence.
Or, they went in with their eyes wide open, and are continuing to pursue the strategy that they cooked up right at the start.
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SWBKCB. Page 22 item 9. Creditors...amounts falling due within one year. 15.8 million....that was the figure I noticed,maybe Iím reading it wrong?
Yes - it doesn't actually mean it all has to be repaid within the year.

Peel have been making payments to other parts of the Peel group for years so nothing to see here e.g. air traffic control is done by another part of the company not DTVA
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Who runs ATC ?
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 18:50
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I understand it is these guys - Air Traffic Control Services Ltd, Peel Dome Intu Trafford Centre, Traffordcity, Manchester, United Kingdom, M17 8PL
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Durham Tees Valley Airport has local based ATC but uses the services of air traffic control services Limited. Most other UK airports have local based ATC and use the services of NATS Holdings.

Air Traffic Control Services Limited mostly work out Liverpool Airport ATC tower.
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From looking at accounts it shouldn't take to much to make the airport business profitable.

Hopefully development of the land not currently used by the airport business will give airport business the cash windfall it needs.

The LAs still own 11% so not all the costs need to be covered by Peel Group. If the LAs do invest in more shares in airport business it will surely help the airport business develop the wider business. Peel Group and LAs can fund the growth of the airport business. Once all the land is fully developed the airport business should be a self-sustaining business.
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