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i now you cant rely on what the papers report but that's what they wrote.....20 yrs...we will just have to wait until someone else reports on this story to find out if its 20 mths or 20 yrs
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Apparently. Doesn't mention if it will offer EI through bookings.
Stobart to restart Flybe's Dublin-Southend route - Independent.ie
Stobart to restart Flybe's Dublin-Southend route - Independent.ie
It looks like Flybe will need to roster an E195 to do the Dublin runs something like this:
Sat SEN - DUB
Departing with a slot somewhere between 08:00 and 09:30 so pax arrive at Dublin 09:30 - 11:00 at very latest.
Sun DUB - SEN
Departing with a slot somewhere between 18:00 and 19:30 so pax arrive at Southend 19:30 - 21:00 at very latest.
If Flybe also considering a Friday SEN - DUB service then realistically you are maybe looking at aiming for slots departing between 18:00 and 19:30.
I don't think there is demand for the Dublin service outside of the Friday, Saturday, Sunday slots so reconfiguration of the airframes onto other legs for other days will ensure the fleet are in sky and not sitting idle on ramps, bit of a challenge to the flight ops to run optimum scenario plans now.
Will be interesting to see what they come up with but being honest if Flybe want to secure healthy loads and margins then aiming for the Fri, Sat, Sun commuter, tourist type pax will offer a pleasurable airport alternative than trucking through likes of LCY, LGW or STN.
I genuinely would like to see them cracking that Dublin route once and for all, it's got loads of demand in general but the trick for Flybe and SEN is making the whole experience make sense. Maybe a real world challenge of timing how long it would take and typically cost on average to get to Dublin from London using STN, LGW, LCY versus SEN selling the benefits in a way the passenger can relate to easily. Plus advertising needs to be right. You can't adopt the attitude of build it and they will come, that's just not going to work.
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With respect I don't agree at all that SEN-DUB should be regarded as a 'weekend break' route. I would expect it to be daily at least although double-daily would maximise its potential. Also it will be Stobart that dictates the thinking on this and not Flybe. Hopefully time will tell which type of operation is chosen.
With respect I don't agree at all that SEN-DUB should be regarded as a 'weekend break' route. I would expect it to be daily at least although double-daily would maximise its potential. Also it will be Stobart that dictates the thinking on this and not Flybe. Hopefully time will tell which type of operation is chosen.
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With respect I don't agree at all that SEN-DUB should be regarded as a 'weekend break' route. I would expect it to be daily at least although double-daily would maximise its potential. Also it will be Stobart that dictates the thinking on this and not Flybe. Hopefully time will tell which type of operation is chosen.
With respect I don't agree at all that SEN-DUB should be regarded as a 'weekend break' route. I would expect it to be daily at least although double-daily would maximise its potential. Also it will be Stobart that dictates the thinking on this and not Flybe. Hopefully time will tell which type of operation is chosen.
Fair point on Stobart.
Can we pull the historical performance stats for the Stobart operated previous SEN-DUB services? Interested in tracking the monthly numbers and what the schedule frequency was relative to those numbers?
We know the ATRs operated the route so can reverse engineer possible load patterns for that type and perhaps get a sense for what we're potentially looking at on the loads for the E195 services.
Thoughts?
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My question wasn't an attempt to start a quiz, tophat27dt I think the answers make the point I was too lazy to research at 02:00.
Discounting the Belfast Airports for obvious reasons, does SEN see itself in a group with the remainder? Any UK airport with aspirations should have a Dublin service in my opinion. We all know the stats on the numbers that fly to Dublin from the UK. It would be very odd (to me) if a heavily populated part of this island could not support a well-timed daily service.
Discounting the Belfast Airports for obvious reasons, does SEN see itself in a group with the remainder? Any UK airport with aspirations should have a Dublin service in my opinion. We all know the stats on the numbers that fly to Dublin from the UK. It would be very odd (to me) if a heavily populated part of this island could not support a well-timed daily service.
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@DC3 Dave - agreed. I've checked past reports on EZY and any past efforts to fly to Dublin. Unless I'm gone mad, I've vague recollections of a messy situation which developed between FR and EZY back then? Point being, as EZY are the SEN anchor could it be a theory EZY may be exploring the route too, or is that a total brain fart moment on my part?
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In view of the fact that DUB is not even on their route network would it not seem unlikely that easyJet would start operating SEN-DUB?
With regard to previous traffic figures for SEN-DUB when it was operated by Aer Lingus Regional the route carried 60,477 pax in 2013 and 61,699 in 2014 and monthly figures for the route were generally between 4,500 and 6,900 during those years. I seem to recall that at one time there were up to 3 x daily flights on the ATR72. Initially the route began as SEN-DUB-SEN but this was later changed to DUB-SEN-DUB to give an earlier arrival time for travellers to London.
In view of the fact that DUB is not even on their route network would it not seem unlikely that easyJet would start operating SEN-DUB?
With regard to previous traffic figures for SEN-DUB when it was operated by Aer Lingus Regional the route carried 60,477 pax in 2013 and 61,699 in 2014 and monthly figures for the route were generally between 4,500 and 6,900 during those years. I seem to recall that at one time there were up to 3 x daily flights on the ATR72. Initially the route began as SEN-DUB-SEN but this was later changed to DUB-SEN-DUB to give an earlier arrival time for travellers to London.
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mik3bravo
In view of the fact that DUB is not even on their route network would it not seem unlikely that easyJet would start operating SEN-DUB?
With regard to previous traffic figures for SEN-DUB when it was operated by Aer Lingus Regional the route carried 60,477 pax in 2013 and 61,699 in 2014 and monthly figures for the route were generally between 4,500 and 6,900 during those years. I seem to recall that at one time there were up to 3 x daily flights on the ATR72. Initially the route began as SEN-DUB-SEN but this was later changed to DUB-SEN-DUB to give an earlier arrival time for travellers to London.
In view of the fact that DUB is not even on their route network would it not seem unlikely that easyJet would start operating SEN-DUB?
With regard to previous traffic figures for SEN-DUB when it was operated by Aer Lingus Regional the route carried 60,477 pax in 2013 and 61,699 in 2014 and monthly figures for the route were generally between 4,500 and 6,900 during those years. I seem to recall that at one time there were up to 3 x daily flights on the ATR72. Initially the route began as SEN-DUB-SEN but this was later changed to DUB-SEN-DUB to give an earlier arrival time for travellers to London.
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FR can't operate a/c into SEN
But FR don't need SEN, they could just offer silly fares from STN and many of the punters would flock there.
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EZY never served DUB but they did launch LGW-ORK, NOC and SNN. FR promptly launched the routes too, at 3-4 daily. Needless to say EZY didn't hang around too long, I think SNN went first, NOC and ORK lasted a bit longer. Fares were brilliant at €25 return. You got a check-in bag and airport check-in those days too, EZY have never ventured back into Ireland since.