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Old 13th Dec 2016, 18:07
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Who says they are not going to use turboprops? No final announcement has been made yet regarding routes timetables and aircraft types.
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Old 13th Dec 2016, 19:08
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SEN will not hit 2.5m pax by 2018 FACT
Blimey. If you're so certain that you can foretell the future, please let me know next week's lottery numbers.
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Old 13th Dec 2016, 20:42
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I am a SEN supporter for the last 50 years or more, worked there in the 60s when it was the 3rd busiest airport in the UK and now live just 6 minutes car drive away, however i have to be realistic and totally agree with rowly6339 that there is very little chance if any, that SEN will hit their target of 2.5m pax by 2018, although i would love to be proved wrong.

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Old 13th Dec 2016, 21:07
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Quite frankly I don't care whether SEN reaches its target of 2.5m pax by 2018 or not. Seeing some steady and sustainable year-on-year growth would be a good start.

As for the BE/Stobart expansion it sounds like all will be revealed very soon.
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Old 13th Dec 2016, 23:00
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I'm not foreseeing the future just being realistic and I know how Stobart management work so believe me when I say they won't hit their target.


If they do use props then that doesn't leave a whole lot of choice for the 18 new routes they claim to be starting. I would love to see this airport achieve everything they want to achieve but I just don't see it. I am an Essex lad originally so I really want SEN to be a thriving airport but I am also realistic.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 06:56
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Warwick Brady will officially join the Stobart Group as Deputy Group CEO on 3 January 2017.
Stobart Group Limited Appointment of Deputy Group CEO - ADVFN
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 07:31
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Let's hope he has influence over EZY jet future ops at SEN.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 07:39
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...or it could count against them if he knows too many easy secrets and they get the hump.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 07:39
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I think Warren Brady's appointment as Stobart Group Deputy CEO is quite significant to the development of SEN. His influence is likely to lead to well thought out initiatives being implemented rather than what have sometimes, perhaps wrongly, seemed ideas being followed on a whim.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 07:52
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I find it difficult to see SEN achieving 2.5mppa by 2018 but the appointment of Warwick Brady has certainly increased the odds of them doing so.

Anyone who is basing the likelihood of the new Stobart/Flybe being successful on the assumption they will all be operated by turboprops is on the wrong track. They will operate types appropriate to each route and that will certainly need to include jet equipment so let's not get bogged down in pessimism on that score.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 08:22
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Warwick Brady's brief quote regarding his appointment expresses his belief that he can help SEN reach its potential. Wonder where this leaves Glyn Jones?
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 09:07
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I find it difficult to see SEN achieving 2.5mppa by 2018 but the appointment of Warwick Brady has certainly increased the odds of them doing so.
The same could have been said for Glyn Jones who was MD of Luton Airport from August 2007 until June 2014. He grew the business at Luton and has done nothing at Southend so maybe it is time for Glyn to go?
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August 2007 – June 2014 (6 years 11 months)Luton, United Kingdom

London Luton Airport (August 2007 to June 2014) Managing Director of 10m passenger airport and the largest centre of corporate aviation in the UK.
Joined a business with turnover of £90m, profit of £25m, negative cash generation and 550 staff in mid 2007. Grew it in seven years to turnover £120m, profit of £40m, cash generation of £20m and 600 staff by:
• Developing new revenue streams from priority security lanes, drop off zone, property rentals and extended retailing offer
• Obtaining higher yield from airline customers, focusing on yield over volume
• Winning more corporate aviation customers, building a new corporate aircraft terminal
• Imposing tight cost management, both opex and capex, whilst improving service quality without unprofitable investments in service
• Delivering a 20% productivity improvement through management development and reviews of all working practices
Negotiated extension of concession agreement with Luton Borough Council. Obtained capital investment of £100 to permit growth of airport from 10m passengers per year to 18m per year; obtained planning consent without public enquiry, through structured programme of communications with all stakeholders, to ministerial level.

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Old 14th Dec 2016, 09:47
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There's a new corporate video on You Tube "We are Stobart Air". Shows which way they are heading. Without confusing Stobart Aviation and the Group as a whole, it does show possible reasons why they preferred to reject Cityjet and plough their own furrow for better or worse.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 09:57
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OK. Maybe a slightly ambitious scenario is opening up? Having employed Warwick Brady and Glyn Jones Stobart have assembled some excellent aviation brains and may have a dream to build up their own airline with a fleet of jets which can use SEN's limited runway - A319/320, B717, SSJ-100, Avro RJ etc..... Hopefully, in terms of longevity, a new Channel Airways rather than a new Princess Air.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 10:18
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That's quite interesting. I got the idea from the video they want to grow running regional services for others as they do now and a fleet of ATR's will do that job very nicely they believe. By the way, how big a part do you think codesharing will play in any new routes? How much of the perceived success with Rennes and Caen is down to Air France selling the flights?
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 17:35
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
There's a new corporate video on You Tube "We are Stobart Air". Shows which way they are heading. Without confusing Stobart Aviation and the Group as a whole, it does show possible reasons why they preferred to reject Cityjet and plough their own furrow for better or worse.
"Champions of choice" is what Stobart Air state in their YouTube video https://youtu.be/XyZtD2WO-po

How long are they in planning phase at SEN? I see no focus on executing truly sustainable long term profitable services for passengers wishing to use SEN. When I watch their video and listen to their own statements I can't help but feel it's all aspirational. I see no execution or delivery.

I see a major operator of ATR type but no other type features in their clip. Where is the vision for new type for regional services offering choice, speed, more comfort to passengers. ATRs will be out performed at some point in maintenance and cost of operation and passenger experience.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 18:07
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The "We are Stobart Air" video was uploaded to You Tube on 19th August 2016 so who knows when it was actually produced. I believe that Stobart now have a totally different policy for Stobart Air as a result of their rethink on the Cityjet deal and we shall see the first results of this in the next week or so.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 18:27
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Rumor Network

I know this is a Rumour Network, but why don't we all just wait and see, not long I believe ...... 22nd December is the magic date
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 18:36
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desk bound - you mentioned 22 December as the magic date.
I always thought Santa came to visit late in the evening of 24 December, but maybe he just visits you 2 days earlier than me.
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 18:59
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So on the 23 December can we ask you what happened!
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