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an attractive alternative to driving the M25 Dartford Crossing to Gatwick or the M25/11 to Stansted.
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Depends on where you start the drive from, in my case (Langdon Hills) it's either A13 or A127 onto M25 swing off to M11 up to Stansted. Or LCY just head to docklands or Gatwick hang left onto M25 clockwise shooting over Dartford Crossing. Or, a more leisurely less stressful short jolly into SEN.
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EIDW / EGMC allegedly commencing service later 2017. In other words, seems like they are trying to progress restarting the service which Aer Lingus Regional and Flybe used to operate. Will be interesting to see if there will be a formal media statement on this to either confirm or deny.
But aside from that, as I've said earlier, within recent days I've heard from Cityjet flight crew personnel that WX are back in talks.
I think the EIDW route was an interesting one in the past, it delivered healthy loads but neither carrier could get the configuration right, there were issues with older a/c going tech and crew rostering but aside from that, it's a strong growth route.
But aside from that, as I've said earlier, within recent days I've heard from Cityjet flight crew personnel that WX are back in talks.
I think the EIDW route was an interesting one in the past, it delivered healthy loads but neither carrier could get the configuration right, there were issues with older a/c going tech and crew rostering but aside from that, it's a strong growth route.
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Just have to wait and see. Do hope something comes of all this. As you say, the loadings were respectable in the past so let's hope it can happen again and be made to work.
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Under the original plans which involved Cityjet basing four aircraft at SEN I'm pretty sure that SEN-DUB would have been included among the routes by perhaps reducing their LCY-DUB frequencies.
I haven't seen anything since which indicates that SEN-DUB is on the table again for this year, although if it is planned to commence a CAX-SEN route it should operationally be possible to accommodate SEN-DUB within such an operation.
I think it's a step too far at this stage to suggest that even if the reported CAX to SEN, BHD and DUB services do become a reality this will automatically mean that SEN-DUB is reinstated.
By the way do you think we could stick to IATA designators as some people find these easier to relate to?
Under the original plans which involved Cityjet basing four aircraft at SEN I'm pretty sure that SEN-DUB would have been included among the routes by perhaps reducing their LCY-DUB frequencies.
I haven't seen anything since which indicates that SEN-DUB is on the table again for this year, although if it is planned to commence a CAX-SEN route it should operationally be possible to accommodate SEN-DUB within such an operation.
I think it's a step too far at this stage to suggest that even if the reported CAX to SEN, BHD and DUB services do become a reality this will automatically mean that SEN-DUB is reinstated.
By the way do you think we could stick to IATA designators as some people find these easier to relate to?
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LCY charges have become exorbitant and counter productive economically. Which is why I guess WX revisiting potential alernative locations to establish a new base. I think SEN 'might' present some attractiveness as a potential alternative base.
However it is somewhat odd to say the least, that SEN have launched other routes without effectively addressing the compelling economics of a frequent service to Dublin.
Dublin-London now the busiest city pair in Europe
This is low hanging fruit which SEN management should be all over in terms of getting a proper service established between SEN and DUB.
However it is somewhat odd to say the least, that SEN have launched other routes without effectively addressing the compelling economics of a frequent service to Dublin.
Dublin - London now the busiest city pair in Europe
Dublin Airport has recorded a 9% increase on air traffic to London, making the route the busiest in Europe, and the second busiest in the world. Dublin-London falls behind Hong Kong-Taipei, the world’s busiest route which boasts more than five million passengers.
The route is operated by Aer Lingus, CityJet, Ryanair and British Airways with flights to London Gatwick, London Heathrow, London Stansted, London City and London Luton. With almost 4.5 million people on the route, Dublin-London accounted for almost 18% of Dublin Airport’s total traffic in 2015
Dublin Airport has recorded a 9% increase on air traffic to London, making the route the busiest in Europe, and the second busiest in the world. Dublin-London falls behind Hong Kong-Taipei, the world’s busiest route which boasts more than five million passengers.
The route is operated by Aer Lingus, CityJet, Ryanair and British Airways with flights to London Gatwick, London Heathrow, London Stansted, London City and London Luton. With almost 4.5 million people on the route, Dublin-London accounted for almost 18% of Dublin Airport’s total traffic in 2015
This is low hanging fruit which SEN management should be all over in terms of getting a proper service established between SEN and DUB.
There will be no scheduled services through Carlisle until the runway reconstruction and other essential works are completed. CAX remains subject to a weight restriction of 12500kgs for commercial flights, and additionally the runway is now NOTAM'd as "may be slippery when wet.".
There have been no recent announcements of a schedule for the reconstruction work. The most recent statement was last May (from Andrew Tinkler) to the effect that the runway work would be completed by October 2016, and scheduled flights would start in the spring, i.e.now. Clearly this is not happening.
I suspect the Flight Global correspondent (see #4110 above) thought it timely to follow up that announcement, contacted Stobart for an update and was told it would be "later this year". When you think of it, they would have to say that, wouldn't they ?.
There have been no recent announcements of a schedule for the reconstruction work. The most recent statement was last May (from Andrew Tinkler) to the effect that the runway work would be completed by October 2016, and scheduled flights would start in the spring, i.e.now. Clearly this is not happening.
I suspect the Flight Global correspondent (see #4110 above) thought it timely to follow up that announcement, contacted Stobart for an update and was told it would be "later this year". When you think of it, they would have to say that, wouldn't they ?.
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was told it would be "later this year". When you think of it, they would have to say that, wouldn't they ?.
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Sorry, on a slightly different topic for a moment please - anyone on here a member of any GA clubs based out of SEN? I'm curious to understand how well CA and GA co-exist at SEN? Does SEN ATC openly accommodate healthy buoyant GA movement's at the field whilst commercial movements are active? I'm wondering will it get to a point where GA will be killed off altogether - which will be sad in my opinion.
Interested in views from any GA pilots on here or CFIs.
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As far as I know, SEN give the GA clubs a schedule of all the passenger flights, and therefore they must work their departures/arrivals around them. CA flights have the priority, but they won't want to kill off the GA side of operations.
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I'm curious to understand how well CA and GA co-exist at SEN? Does SEN ATC openly accommodate healthy buoyant GA movement's at the field whilst commercial movements are active? I'm wondering will it get to a point where GA will be killed off altogether - which will be sad in my opinion.
Not that SEN is, or is likely to ever be, a LGW but what is likely to come first, modestly sized terminal congestion or single runway operation congestion.
I understand that the ex terminal has become the biz terminal, the commercial terminal shall max out with passengers and movements long before the runway ever does leaving scope for plenty of biz and GA movements.
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I'm a frequent flyer and use SEN too, my experiences are identical. The place just works as it should - no drama, no stress, you park the car, walk a few paces into the terminal, fast security, next thing you know, you're sitting at your gate all done in a matter of a couple of minutes.
Part of me wants the airport to stay as it is now but that will be seen as failing while 5 million passengers and a Luton experience will be seen as a success.
Enjoy the airport as it is now for if things go to plan a pleasant experience could be a memory from the distant past.
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Then contact the journalist and get the clarity you want - shall I dig out Clarks mobile for you too! If you read his Tweet, it's puntuation suggests two points are being made: (a) Carlisle and (b) Southend
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On 4 April, easyJet celebrated its fifth anniversary at London Southend Airport,having flown more than four million passengers on over 32,000 flights. To mark the anniversary two local children, who are also celebrating their fifth birthdays this year, were invited to dress-up as easyJet pilots and have a tour of an easyJet aircraft and cockpit.
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It only works well because the airport is vastly underutilized. We all want the airport to grow first to 2.5 million and then to 5 million and even more. It will then have car parks that are on the other side of the airport, somewhere to sit will be a luxury and queues will become normal and then the passenger experience will be like all the other airports.
Part of me wants the airport to stay as it is now but that will be seen as failing while 5 million passengers and a Luton experience will be seen as a success.
Enjoy the airport as it is now for if things go to plan a pleasant experience could be a memory from the distant past.
Part of me wants the airport to stay as it is now but that will be seen as failing while 5 million passengers and a Luton experience will be seen as a success.
Enjoy the airport as it is now for if things go to plan a pleasant experience could be a memory from the distant past.
Alas since then I understand larger aircraft types are operating at least some of the routes that I travelled on whilst BHX have extended their runway etc. but it was good while it lasted!