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Old 3rd May 2017, 09:31
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I remember when EI operated the route, there was all the PR stuff about how well the route was performing, and rumours of a 4th daily rotation.

mikkie4 As for when Flybe (actually Stobart) will release the SEN winter schedule, your guess is as good as mine I'm afraid.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 09:56
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Powdair will tomorrow start to release their winter 2017/18 schedules to Sion from the UK and have apparently confirmed that SEN-SIR will be included. A leased Trade Air A319 is likely to be used on these routes.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 10:03
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I know I'm now going to contradict myself slightly, but I can't quite see why EZY would choose SEN to have another attempt at the ROI. It's possible, but a high risk strategy given the pain that could be inflicted across the board, for little gain.

On the other hand FR slashing prices to DUB on its 15 or so daily flights from STN and LGW to deal with a Stobart route, would be like carrying out an amputation to deal with a minor rash.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 11:00
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Don't forget the three daily from LTN.

Mind you Ryanair seem to rather enjoy dealing with minor rashes.
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PowdAir say they are releasing a new route everyday from tomorrow, so SEN might not be confirmed for a few days potentially. Don't know why they can't just reveal them all together!
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Old 3rd May 2017, 13:45
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Something strange has happened. The old airport logo has just replaced the new one on the website.

Perhaps that's what everyone flew into the airport to discuss.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 14:30
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Dublin route

I simply feel that Dublin is such a popular city to visit that there is enough catchment area around SEN with people who may prefer to fly from here rather than use LCY or STN. Onward connections to USA are an added bonus, and previous passenger figures proved that.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 14:51
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
I know I'm now going to contradict myself slightly, but I can't quite see why EZY would choose SEN to have another attempt at the ROI. It's possible, but a high risk strategy given the pain that could be inflicted across the board, for little gain.

On the other hand FR slashing prices to DUB on its 15 or so daily flights from STN and LGW to deal with a Stobart route, would be like carrying out an amputation to deal with a minor rash.
That's precisely the tactical play I am hypothesising. It should be an option SEN management should discuss with EZY, it could open up a wider secondary competitive opportunity over a near rival. The technical question is could FR get a B73 in and out of SEN within limits for a SEN-DUB service including alternate requirements, etc. It's a left field tactical option for EZY but just might be one to help them smash the FR grip.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 14:58
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Am I missing something here? The original article states:

Just over two years after pulling the route, UK regional carrier Flybe is planning to relaunch its Dublin-to-Southend service in October, the Irish Independent has learned.

The service will be operated by Stobart Air, which also operates the Aer Lingus Regional franchise.
From this we seem to have got to EZY jumping on the route to start a turf war with Ryanair?
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Staying with their website, there is a link to ALL destinations which we serve.

"See all the destinations we serve" at the bottom of the "Flights" page.

No mention of Ibiza or Murcia but they still show Gran Canaria. Why is the website so good at giving out incorrect information? Rhetorical question!
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Old 3rd May 2017, 15:39
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Originally Posted by SEN Observer
Staying with their website, there is a link to ALL destinations which we serve.

"See all the destinations we serve" at the bottom of the "Flights" page.

No mention of Ibiza or Murcia but they still show Gran Canaria. Why is the website so good at giving out incorrect information? Rhetorical question!
I don't believe the young desk person is lazy. But is just totally useless.
Probably thinks that Ibiza is in Mallorca, and Murcia is served by the Venice flights. I will email them. Unacceptable.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 15:51
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I agree with you entirely.

There is NO prospect of easyJet operating SEN-DUB whereas there is a strong possibility of Stobart Air/Flybe restarting the route if the Irish Independent article is correct.

Just for the record the B738 cannot land at SEN with a commercially viable payload.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:13
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
SWBKCB

I agree with you entirely.

There is NO prospect of easyJet operating SEN-DUB whereas there is a strong possibility of Stobart Air/Flybe restarting the route if the Irish Independent article is correct.

Just for the record the B738 cannot land at SEN with a commercially viable payload.
Thank goodness. That's one discussion ended!
Still no CAA pax sats!
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:38
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COLOGNE

Do FORDS still fly their employees to cologne, SEN used to do very well out of those flights?
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Old 3rd May 2017, 18:00
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Am I the only one who gets really bloody annoyed when people talk about FR at SEN, It's not gong to happen as its not possible, why can't people understand this as its been mentioned on here so many times.


On another note does anybody have any guess as to what the remaining routes Stobart will offer up as they did make the claim of 18 routes.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 18:07
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On another note does anybody have any guess as to what the remaining routes Stobart will offer up as they did make the claim of 18 routes.

Think CAX will happen not saying it will work but it might
Also I think Anglesey would work an untapped market even if summer only but even year round but don't see it happening
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I wonder if NQY might make a return for summer 18 tapping into the staycation market ? BE already service it 3 daily LGW and daily during summer from STN. Is there a market at SEN on top of that ?

I would like to think that EDI would return with DUB

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Old 3rd May 2017, 18:30
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Originally Posted by cornishsimon
I wonder if NQY might make a return for summer 18 tapping into the staycation market ? BE already service it 3 daily LGW and daily during summer from STN. Is there a market at SEN on top of that ?

I would like to think that EDI would return with DUB

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I think there has always been a market for Newquay during the summer months from SEN, perhaps for a 70 seater rather than a 100+ seater. EDI attracted often 100+ but for an A319 that's probably not enough; better suited to E195. Krakow flights were always very good loads, but I think you will learn after October that Wizzair will fill that gap from SEN.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 18:32
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what were the passenger figures for the STN-NQY flights?
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Old 3rd May 2017, 18:36
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Went to Anglesey last year and have to say I really enjoyed being there (South Stack is strongly recommended), but I think, Carlisle seems a more likely option than Anglesey. Valley airport is at the 'far' end of Anglesey, and it takes an hour by bus to get even to Bangor, never mind places like Snowdonia. With a single change, a train from London to Bangor takes just 3h20 and runs every hour. The only reason most people go to Holyhead is to catch the ferry towards the Dublin region - if you're flying anyway, then may as well just fly to Dublin

Southend's main advantage compared to other London airports, is that an airline can operate a small-ish aircraft like at ATR on otherwise unserved niche routes that cannot support a 150-seat aircraft without the airline having to charge super-high fares. If there is going to be a new UK destination from Southend, I'm wondering whether a non-stop summer seasonal route to either Orkney or Shetland might possibly work, particularly after the Flybe-Loganair divorce is completed
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