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Old 16th Nov 2016, 07:05
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Originally Posted by Powerjet1
Marseille, Nantes & Valencia, now appear in the drop down menu for easyjet, from Luton.
Yes all bookable from February 2017.

Valencia (3 weekly)
Nantes (4 weekly)
Marseille (4 weekly)

Interestingly, these routes commenced in February but the Copenhagen route ends at the end of March, so this must mean extra capacity is being put on exisisting routes from March using the spare aircraft they have at certain times.
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Construction update special

Today the first steelwork has gone in on the former taxi rank. It is clear that the new terminal frontage sits much further out than the published drawings which just showed the 2 new entrances being projected out from the existing terminal. This is a 2 story affair and will have the entrances recessed within its structure. It will also link the new duty free shop and the terminal infill of the old bus station with the existing departure lounge and run for most of the full length of the terminal frontage and will also contain new retail outlets within it.

Because of its size the canopy will have less depth than first planned.



From the terminal looking out



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Old 16th Nov 2016, 19:02
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Retail locations



The first floor area within the red lines better illustrates the terminal extension at the front of the terminal (to the right) and the bus station infill.

As can be seen the new seating area in green remains somewhat small to say the least!
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Thanks for the construction update and terminal plan updates LTNma. Interesting they are making it a little bigger than originally planned. I'm curious as to how the terminal entrance looks. In the airport videos there are some horrible looking ramps up from the bus station level to the doors - won't be good for passenger circulation. I wonder if the fact that the new entrance is a lot further out means the level difference can't be accommodated by a simple slope?


In terms of easyJet's summer 2017 schedule I've done my usual analysis based on Monday, 26th June 2017. Complete list of flights that day shown below. This schedule of 138 flights can be operated by 21 based aircraft. (That compares to 136 flights using 19 based aircraft on a similar Monday this summer).


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I was also wondering why ramps were going in to get to the entrances until I saw how far the terminal extension was sticking out. This will make the slope to the coach bays too steep thus the need for ramps running along the front of the terminal.

The answer might have been to raise the height of the bus bays but it is too late now.
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On that evidence it only shows 20 aircraft based as the Edinburgh flight will be going back to there.
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easyJet summer 2017

Whilst there are only 20 aircraft which leave in the first wave, if you take a closer look at the next set of movements you'll see a 21st aircraft is required for the 10.25 departure to Barcelona. I agree it's unusual for all easyJet based aircraft not to leave in the first wave in the summer - I wonder if they were unable to get a slot?
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Four different 360 degree zoomable images of the finished airport can be found here https://roundme.com/embed/77047/193037/

Some of the detail like covered walkways/ railings/ lighting etc are missing though but the 360 from inside the entrance is looking really good.

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That Barcelona flight has departed at that time for many years.
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The BCN has operated at that time as you say but has been a turnround - last time I travelled on it (2015) from an inbound Bordeaux. But it does look like a first timer- something still to be slotted in? Can't see anything clever going on like the Belfast which seems to turnround to Malaga.

I've noticed Easy prefer to do multiple airport sectors rather than W pattern - earlier this year travelled on a flight which was part of

LTN-JER-GLA-LTN-ABZ-LTN

The crew weren't that keen on 5 sectors!
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EZY have said they are looking to operate into LTN from some of their bases, so maybe it could end up being a BCN based aircraft?
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EasyJet 20 or 23 aircraft?

ClearLand08 very kindly supplied his analysis of EasyJet for Monday 26th June 2017. Based on his findings he believes EasyJet will possibly only operate 20 aircraft? He further stated a 21st A/C required for the 10.25 to Barcelons.

My question is where do the two A/C come from operating the 20.00 service to Ibiza and 20.10 service to Amsterdam? All the other in-bounds have covered the out-bounds prior to the first departure being 20.00 hrs?

In effect there could be a fleet of 23 at LTN?
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EZY

There are plenty of W patterns into / out LGW. If it is going to save money basing a few frames somewhere else then great. Issue at LTN is overnight stands and early morning slots, if EZY don't pick up these then Wizz will. They rent half a airport hotel as it is!
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Just maybe Monday is a lazy day and several A/C are parked up or reserved for A/C with technical faults or are scheduled out of maintenance ?
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I was actually suggesting 21 based aircraft, just noting that the 21st doesn't leave in the first wave and waits until 10.25 for its first sector. If you assume 21 based then the schedule does work with no additional aircraft required, including the 20.00 Ibiza and 20.10 Amsterdam. (Just start at the beginning of the day with 21 and subtract 1 every time there is a departure and add 1 for an arrival. Working down the day you'll see that the cumulative total never falls below 0).


There seem to be some slack periods in the day when additional short routes could be added. For example, "aircraft 21" could theoretically leave at 06.15 and return at 09.55 in time to operate the 10.25 to Barcelona. That's a 3 hr 40 min window, so could do a return flight to somewhere with c. 90 min flight time. Of course, that's just pure speculation at this point.
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Issue at LTN is overnight stands and ......
Not sure that will be the issue for next summer.

They have all of the south stands to use if they so wish as biz jets no longer seem to park there. Also with the fence being moved the service road to it should come back into use.

The hangar line has now gained a stand and the Eastern Apron is one up compared to last summer.

Also the pond has been now renumbered 16-19 but biz jets still seem to occupy it most of the time. That might not be the case if the airport want the stands for their passengers as it was due to be handed back I think last summer. With Signatures new terminal about to open any day now their portocabin city and car park in the NW corner will be gone soon so releasing that area for biz jet parking again.

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LTNman - my answer to that is whether there are extra gates to hold then bus passengers to remote stands, service road or not, or is it just a plan to hold the aircraft remote then tug back, I think not. I think next summer things will be much the same except a few more A321s hence stand changes.

As for a Signature, it just gives them more space for now still using the "Pond". Ok prime time summer when VVIP drops off, they can squeeze a few charters into there but again remote gate issues.
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At the moment the airport has 25 boarding gates for 21 walk on stands. Despite this they often share gates as gates do not match stand locations. The pond and the extra stand on the hangar line would still be served from the bused gates located in the original duty free shop in the old terminal.

Parts of the pond, which the airport calls the western apron, have been designated as shared commercial and FBO use so we will have to wait and see how that ends up but the drawings show 4 commercial stands with FBO parking filling in every other nook and cranny. In reality Signature might well use whole stands if they are not needed by the airport.

The south stands will be eventually served from the southern side of the new pier that is now under construction. I have no idea if the airport would consider bringing into service the south stands for regular departures without the new pier apart from one off flights. While the south stands would not suit low cost operators now they could be fine for those airlines with longer turnaround times.

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Add in new gates 27 and 28. These are new ones to add to the extra stands on the pier. I believe that 2 lower gates are currently still being finished. Will be done by next summer.
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Add in new gates 27 and 28. These are new ones to add to the extra stands on the pier. I believe that 2 lower gates are currently still being finished. Will be done by next summer.
Gates 27 and 28 at the end of the pier aren't actually new gates. They used to be gates 24 and 25. Some other pier gates have new numbers (e.g. gate 19 is now gate 20) to fit in with the new gates that will come in to use when the pier redevelopment is complete. I believe there will eventually be 4 gates each side of the pier which will (at last) match the number of aircraft stands. Once complete, there will be pre-board zones at ground level - much larger than those in use along by stands 5 to 9L - which will see an end to the current system of passengers queueing on the stairways.
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