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Unfortunately ground handling team did not respond to captains radio requests
Massive failure by handling company on the ground.
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So it seems it was noticed only because the aircraft was nearly full so was easier to spot otherwise the flight would just have carried on regardless of any security issue.
In any organisation, however tightly enforced an operational process may be, there will always be the (very) rare occasion when a human being screws up and either forgets to do something or makes a mistake in doing it. Yes you can have another person double checking and a third counter check but ultimately humans are not machines and are prone to error for a multitude of reasons - eg tired, inexperienced, under stress, etc..
The purpose of the passenger-bag reconciliation is to make it sufficiently difficult to put a bomb on a specific plane so terrorists do not bother trying. There are multiple cases every day of passenger catchong a flight and bags follow on a later flight - ie no passenger-bag match occurs. As long as this anti-terrorist goal is achieved, the process has fulfilled its primary goal.
The purpose of the passenger-bag reconciliation is to make it sufficiently difficult to put a bomb on a specific plane so terrorists do not bother trying. There are multiple cases every day of passenger catchong a flight and bags follow on a later flight - ie no passenger-bag match occurs. As long as this anti-terrorist goal is achieved, the process has fulfilled its primary goal.
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The delayed passengers were apparently surprising good natured and understanding when they boarded last night.
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I would be more concerned if they had left without a passanger and taken their bags rather than taking too many passengers. I'm not quite sure with the little information we have here how returning to Luton improved security matters?
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Having done the job, it's very easy to forget to scan a boarding pass considering an ezy gate agent has to scan, check passport +possible visa or residency, hand luggage is fine, within 10 seconds. Frustrating when something is missed but it happens.
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I have noticed that there is an increasing amount of delays from the airport with all flights leaving with a 20 minute minimum delay. For example ZB842 to Alicante departed at 09:03am instead of 07:35am. Also yesterday 80% of all flights were delayed. It usually occurs around the morning rush between 06:00 - 09:00, but this has a knock-on effect for the rest of the day. Considering flights with based aircraft in the morning don't have to be 'turned around' what's the excuse, maybe a small delay for a busy airfield and taxi time, but nothing substantial should really come about.
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There's some strange stuff happening with EZY at the moment.
EZY 2296 to KEF today diverted into GLA on the way up- according to the web site - reason- to pick up more fuel.
Are there problems at Luton at the moment or are EZY just losing it
EZY 2296 to KEF today diverted into GLA on the way up- according to the web site - reason- to pick up more fuel.
Are there problems at Luton at the moment or are EZY just losing it
If the weather in Keflavik and/or the alternate airport in Iceland is poor, the destination alternate could be in Scotland. Depending on cruise winds and payloads some 319's may not be able to carry enough fuel to do that so either a fuel stop in Glasgow would be required or the offload of a lot passengers.
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It's ridiculous to think that they have let it come to this. They have decided to start work to increase capacity at the latest time possible when the airport has already reached overcapacity and will operate like this until the work is complete
. But this is the story of our lives at London airports, takes so long to finally decide that the building work will go ahead, I mean look at Heathrow for example. The UK are the worst for it and it's humiliating, we our becoming a laughing stock amongst other EU countries. 
The traffic is getting chaotic now
, LTNman do you know how progress is getting on with the dualling of the approach road?
. But this is the story of our lives at London airports, takes so long to finally decide that the building work will go ahead, I mean look at Heathrow for example. The UK are the worst for it and it's humiliating, we our becoming a laughing stock amongst other EU countries. The traffic is getting chaotic now
, LTNman do you know how progress is getting on with the dualling of the approach road?
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ILS donwgarded to CAT IIIa
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It is now NOTAMed to be CAT IIIa until 31AUG. Hope that the CAT IIIb minima won't be needed tonight.
The down grade is listed to come to an end on May 31st. We will have to see
if it is extended but expect the car park cranes to still be on site into early
June as work continues on the final corner
if it is extended but expect the car park cranes to still be on site into early
June as work continues on the final corner
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I flew through the airport on Monday to Gran Canaria. I would say that the airport was really good. Arrived about 4:30 with no traffic and a constant flow through the drop off. A lot of check is desks were open for all flights apart from Ryanair with 4 desks for 5 flights which meant that had a big que.
Security was very fast with the board saying waiting time of 3 minutes. I would of said that time was bang on and correct. Once through you walk up the old stairs which were there for you to walk to the old security. When you arrive you are greated with a duty free shop. Big and spacious for people to easily walk through or browse on the items in the shop. The only problem was seating once pass the whsmiths which has been cut back even more and has been boarded up. There was a bit of a que to take off with lots of Wizz coming in and a vueling which made us take off late but we left gate on time at 7:00. Took off about 7:15
Rating 8/10
Improved a lot since last summer when I used the airport.
Security was very fast with the board saying waiting time of 3 minutes. I would of said that time was bang on and correct. Once through you walk up the old stairs which were there for you to walk to the old security. When you arrive you are greated with a duty free shop. Big and spacious for people to easily walk through or browse on the items in the shop. The only problem was seating once pass the whsmiths which has been cut back even more and has been boarded up. There was a bit of a que to take off with lots of Wizz coming in and a vueling which made us take off late but we left gate on time at 7:00. Took off about 7:15
Rating 8/10
Improved a lot since last summer when I used the airport.
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The traffic is getting chaotic now , LTNman do you know how progress is getting on with the dualling of the approach road?
It is now NOTAMed to be CAT IIIa until 31AUG. Hope that the CAT IIIb minima won't be needed tonight.
Arrived about 4:30
As for the airport being so busy this year all I can say is that the airport management are as surprised as everyone else and I got that from the horses mouth but yes the work should have been finished now rather than only 9 months into it.
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So when you think the traffic can't get any worse at Luton think again as taxi drivers block the CTA over their lost contract. More protests to follow as the towns drivers plan more days of rage.
I said a few weeks ago that the towns Muslim taxi drivers would hold protests as they are like the French and don't stand for any nonsense. Just one taxi stopping in the wrong place could block the CTA but 150 turned up in a rolling road block during the morning peak.
Someone has reported joining the queue 3 hours before departure and they still missed their flight to a family wedding.
I said a few weeks ago that the towns Muslim taxi drivers would hold protests as they are like the French and don't stand for any nonsense. Just one taxi stopping in the wrong place could block the CTA but 150 turned up in a rolling road block during the morning peak.
Someone has reported joining the queue 3 hours before departure and they still missed their flight to a family wedding.
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