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Old 6th Nov 2013, 17:51
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Flightmech.

Will be interesting how MAEL now allocate airlines to its 3 facilities.Will they keep airlines using LTN and MAN or swap them around to include BHX.I suspect the MON A300s would have gone to MAN/LTN normally.

Or will BHX get new airline contracts.

I assume MAEL will want to keep all 3 as busy as possible ?

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Old 6th Nov 2013, 18:49
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Or will BHX get new airline contracts.

I assume MAEL will want to keep all 3 as busy as possible ?
I would imagine all 3 will continue to get a mix of all contracts and aircraft put in where the lowest workload in.
For example just because BHX can house 10 A320 at the same time doesn't automatically mean work can be done on all 10 at the same time. It will depend on staffing levels etc.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 08:53
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It is not only staffing levels, the amount of equipment and tooling also comes into play.
nigel osborne Boeing Gold Care is a bit of a white Elephant, it has only one customer and that is Norwegian, which MAEL has not input, apart from shipping its 787 jacks a week ago for Boeing Gold Care to use.
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TUIfly

not sure if previously mentioned, during Summer 2014 Sundays will be a bit more colourful with TUIfly (X3) doing a one-weekly PMI-BHX-PMI rotation (assumingly marketed by Thomson).

TUIfly Adds New UK ? Palma Mallorca Service in S14 | Airline Route
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Germanwings Berlin

Germanwings reduced TXL-BHX down to 4/7 for most of winter (1,3,5,7)/from late Dec, with an odd extra frequency here and there.

for Summer still 6/7 planned.
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Mr Spotty,

Not quite correct TUI have also signed for Boeing goldcare;

Boeing Launches 787 GoldCare Service With TUI Travel PLC - Apr 13, 2010

TUI Travel launch customer for Boeing GoldCare

Think you are also a bit early to write it off as a white elephant when only 81 787s have been delivered so far across the entire World !!

I have no doubt they will be visiting MAEL in numbers in the future including BHX

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Old 7th Nov 2013, 15:21
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Nigel

That was dated 2010...things change and I am fairly sure reading that TUI have since cancelled the aggreement.

However I think you will find that mr@spottyM is going to know far more than yourself or myself on matters regarding Monarch and MAEL !!
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Thanks Hatters United,

I better keep quiet then on MAEL internal stuff then

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Old 7th Nov 2013, 17:50
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Biman plans biweekly flights to New York by April | STOCK & CORPORATE | Financial Express :: Financial Newspaper of Bangladesh

Believe it when I see it given the stop start episodes up at MAN, interesting quote though that BHX were making a better commercial offer, I take this as BHX offering a lower fee than MAN.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 18:17
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Well, it's probably a more reliable source than airliners.net! Also note the release date - 08.11.2013 at 00:00. Looks like someone has jumped the gun by a few hours. (Stupid of me, it was probably embargoed until mid-night local time)

Obviously there's a long time between now and April, and a lot can happen - but if it comes off then it'll be the long haul announcement that many BHX people were hoping for to coincide with the R/W extension opening.

Fingers tightly crossed - though I expect there are a few working in passenger services who might not be quite so enthusiastic?
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Biman.

That is more like it.It goes quiet for ages then everything goes mad.
THY double daily,Aegean 2xweekly,now possibly Biman 2xweekly.Early days yet,but I have always thought that BHX should concentrate on niche routes,particularly when considering the many ethnic groups in the midlands.
Let's hope it is confirmed soon.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 20:10
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nigel osborne

Sorry to say TUI cancelled the Gold Care contract around Feb 2012.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 20:27
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Mr Spotty,

Oh shucks ,perhaps 1 less for BHX then.

I take it the 787 will fit in the LTN hangar, has a much bigger span than a MON A300 ,or have similar span aircraft (772) been in it before ?

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Old 8th Nov 2013, 07:22
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Nigel.
When the Thomson 787's go in for maintenance at Luton I believe that they will be using the Thomson hangar and not the Monarch pair. I think I am right in saying that you can get 2 767-300 in the hangar together.
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Hatters United,

Thanks for the info on the LTN hangar,

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Old 8th Nov 2013, 10:05
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Yes Thomson have made the decision that H61 will be modified, this to enable the B787 to be maintained by Thomson in house.
What l read is that this will be completed by November 2014.
Neither of the two MAEL hangars at Luton can take the B787 without modifications.
The fact is at the moment the BHX hangar is the only MAEL hangar that can be truly called a fully B787 maintenance facility.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 10:49
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Mr@spottyM.
Do you know what alterations are required to H61 ? It is a very large hangar and did take the Tristars at one time.

I would have thought if 2 767's can be fitted in together there would be no issue for a single Dreamliner.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 12:46
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The issue is not the size as such, it is how the interior is decked out.
I believe they had two bays with docking and in between the bays an area that housed various offices or stores.
That does not work if you want to bring in an a/c with a greater wing span.
If the hangar was just open planned you would not have an issue.
Hopefully someone who works at TOM may be able to give a better description of what they are doing.
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Will the old hangers at luton now be gradually run down as this new mega hangar comes on line?
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Thanks Mr@SpottyM, I had thought that the hangar was open plan so access would not be a problem. It has been a number of years since I've been in H61 though.
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