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I would say that is increasingly likely. As I suggested a few postings ago, they could hold on to an additional E195 for the winter and use a freed up E175 for daily service BHX-Berlin (SXF, or TXL if they can get decent slots) and BHX-ARN.
Alternatively, with their interests in Scandinavia, BMI Regional could be a candidate for the ARN service - though my personal preference for longevity and commitment to the route would be Flybe.
Hopefully along with Berlin, flybe will crunch some numbers and maybe find an aircraft from an increasing busy fleet
Alternatively, with their interests in Scandinavia, BMI Regional could be a candidate for the ARN service - though my personal preference for longevity and commitment to the route would be Flybe.
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BHX5DME, I don't think you'll see Norwegian at BHX except from maybe a few odd sun & fun flights from their Spanish bases. Looking at the BHX May numbers, they clearly shows low passenger numbers to typical city escape destinations and high numbers for sun & fun destinations and large European hubs.
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Stockholm
I really do not think that any airline will be interested in Stockholm. The passengers will simply transit via Copenhagen or another European hub.
Berlin again I can not see been taken on unless Monarch show an interest.
The local aviation community would have put both of these routes at the top of the at risk category.
There is good news and then bad news, that is the nature of the business I am afraid.
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Berlin again I can not see been taken on unless Monarch show an interest.
The local aviation community would have put both of these routes at the top of the at risk category.
There is good news and then bad news, that is the nature of the business I am afraid.
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Stockholm was doomed to fail. Sadly SAS certainly haven't helped the route. It's flight times in an out of Birmingham have constantly changed, as have its days of operation, it was initially timetabled as a 737-800 6x week far too much capacity then 736 then 717 and it had several breaks summer and winter so no surprise there. A real mess. A CRJ-900 would have been perfect with the loads achieved but I think I am right in saying that SAS don't base them at ARN? Perfect route for an 88 seat Embraer Jet.
Berlin may be the political capital of Germany but not its industrial powerhouse so apart from leisure links there are probably few industrial links with Birmingham.
Lufthansa at Birmingham did operate to five cities, now its three. I fear Germanwings HAM will be next for the chop and Im sure DUS will suffer too in their hands.
Berlin may be the political capital of Germany but not its industrial powerhouse so apart from leisure links there are probably few industrial links with Birmingham.
Lufthansa at Birmingham did operate to five cities, now its three. I fear Germanwings HAM will be next for the chop and Im sure DUS will suffer too in their hands.
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Flybe appear to have scrubbed their 3 x weekly summer twilight flights to Palma. The Ibiza and Reykjavik are going ahead on Jun 29, but the night Palma flights have disappeared from the online timetable and booking engine?
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Yes Palma twilight appears to have gone, probably as well with the amount of flying scheduled. Two 195's ended up operating yesterday morning with a 175 stuck overnight in Hanover (tech?).
Q400 operated the Paris the morning and they have the Cello RJ85 on standby from Tuesday now that the BACF have received two of their new 190's.
Reykjavik has 58 seats taken or blocked tonight and if accurate a reasonable start.
The 195 is back in the winter schedule but still allocated to Amsterdam rather than Paris.
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Yes Palma twilight appears to have gone, probably as well with the amount of flying scheduled. Two 195's ended up operating yesterday morning with a 175 stuck overnight in Hanover (tech?).
Q400 operated the Paris the morning and they have the Cello RJ85 on standby from Tuesday now that the BACF have received two of their new 190's.
Reykjavik has 58 seats taken or blocked tonight and if accurate a reasonable start.
The 195 is back in the winter schedule but still allocated to Amsterdam rather than Paris.
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May domestic passenger figures
Monthly passenger figures from the CAA. 2013 in brackets
Average pax per flight and load factors estimated using a SBS report and seat-maps
Aberdeen.........11153 (8671)......55 pax....67%
Belfast City.....21162 (23727).....62 pax....77%
Belfast Int......16581 (12921)....124 pax....79%
Londonderry.......4213 (4616).....124 pax....66%
Edinburgh........23955 (24160).....64 pax....79%
Glasgow..........19500 (17959).....58 pax....73%
Inverness.........3606 (3005)......58 pax....73%
Isle of Man.......4370 (3929)......62 pax....79%
Guernsey..........1715 (3565)
Jersey............5761 (2732)......53 pax....65%
Newcastle..........585 (720).......08 pax....49%
Newquay...........1166 (nil).......36 pax....47%
Some interesting figures here, none more so that the flybe routes where capacity has been slashed on some routes such as Glasgow compared to 2013 but they have actually put more passengers on board. Edinburgh is barely down and the massive reduction in Isle Man from double daily to daily has added 400 pax.
Newquay was a little disappointing as outbound loads seemed to be doing well to start with.
easyjet was increasing Belfast month by month only to slash capacity for high summer. Possibly an indication that yields are weak although this is not supported by the fares most days and even less so now.
flybe have/had nine out of ten consecutive BHD-BHX flights from yesterday fully booked, although I realise summer hols have started (not in the Midlands though). The next three only just had the highest fare available and the next basic ticket is Tuesday evening (and not cheap) but the schedule is maintained at 7 a day in the week.
To add balance, easyjet's BFS high-summer schedule is now
Saturday - nothing down from one until October
Sunday - two
Monday - two
Tuesday - one evening flight down one until September
Wednesday - two
Thursday - two down from three until mid-September
Friday - two down from three until mid-September
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Average pax per flight and load factors estimated using a SBS report and seat-maps
Aberdeen.........11153 (8671)......55 pax....67%
Belfast City.....21162 (23727).....62 pax....77%
Belfast Int......16581 (12921)....124 pax....79%
Londonderry.......4213 (4616).....124 pax....66%
Edinburgh........23955 (24160).....64 pax....79%
Glasgow..........19500 (17959).....58 pax....73%
Inverness.........3606 (3005)......58 pax....73%
Isle of Man.......4370 (3929)......62 pax....79%
Guernsey..........1715 (3565)
Jersey............5761 (2732)......53 pax....65%
Newcastle..........585 (720).......08 pax....49%
Newquay...........1166 (nil).......36 pax....47%
Some interesting figures here, none more so that the flybe routes where capacity has been slashed on some routes such as Glasgow compared to 2013 but they have actually put more passengers on board. Edinburgh is barely down and the massive reduction in Isle Man from double daily to daily has added 400 pax.
Newquay was a little disappointing as outbound loads seemed to be doing well to start with.
easyjet was increasing Belfast month by month only to slash capacity for high summer. Possibly an indication that yields are weak although this is not supported by the fares most days and even less so now.
flybe have/had nine out of ten consecutive BHD-BHX flights from yesterday fully booked, although I realise summer hols have started (not in the Midlands though). The next three only just had the highest fare available and the next basic ticket is Tuesday evening (and not cheap) but the schedule is maintained at 7 a day in the week.
To add balance, easyjet's BFS high-summer schedule is now
Saturday - nothing down from one until October
Sunday - two
Monday - two
Tuesday - one evening flight down one until September
Wednesday - two
Thursday - two down from three until mid-September
Friday - two down from three until mid-September
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The SAS CPH route was/is useful, I used it the once, RIX/CPH/RIX Air Baltic was, perhaps still is, on a codeshare with SAS so it proved a useful route for me to get back from Riga, other trips BHX/RIX/BHX I utilsed KLM.
BHX/ARN/BHX, well ARN ain't CPH, it doesn't have the thru traffic, going back a few years I had a number of business trips either to ARN or VST, one time (never again) I used FR LTN/VST/LTN but all my other trips I routed to ARN from/to BHX with KLM or Lufty, it wasn't such a hardship!
BHX/ARN/BHX, well ARN ain't CPH, it doesn't have the thru traffic, going back a few years I had a number of business trips either to ARN or VST, one time (never again) I used FR LTN/VST/LTN but all my other trips I routed to ARN from/to BHX with KLM or Lufty, it wasn't such a hardship!
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As a frequent user of BHX-FRA and BHX-MUC I am wondering whether one or both of these routes are not possibly presenting opportunities to BE. Both routes were easily obtainable at around £100 return until a year ago, prices have now hiked to £150 to MUC being a real success (more likely £175-£200 RTN), FRA is impossible to get for less than £130, more likely £150 (which means that when in the Mannheim/Heidelberg area I now often resort to the excellent double daily BE service to/from STR). At those entry prices I see room for another airline, even without the connecting pax.
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The beginning of the end?
Hopefully Flybe will introduce a morning service to complement their planned evening flight. The route performed very well (revenue wise not always in terms of numbers) for BACon and it operated am and pm ex BHX.
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Hopefully Flybe will introduce a morning service to complement their planned evening flight. The route performed very well (revenue wise not always in terms of numbers) for BACon and it operated am and pm ex BHX.
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It certainly doesn't appear as if 4U intend to put up a fight... despite this being only a small adjustment now, I am now even more inclined to put money onto the fact that 4U will withdraw HAMBHX no later than winter.
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The first Tuesday night departure to Keflavik appears to have been cancelled, Ibiza is operating
Four flights today operated by Cello RJ85s
Not a good start to the summer season!
The first Tuesday night departure to Keflavik appears to have been cancelled, Ibiza is operating
Four flights today operated by Cello RJ85s
Not a good start to the summer season!
With all the hype about the new route I guess a few people will be eating their words.....
Judging by Flybe's schedule, they obviously aren't interested in onward connections. My guess the route will be short lived when Icelandic start next year.
The inaugural flight to Reykjavik was especially important as it marked the first scheduled service
to the Icelandic airport from Birmingham and the flight was welcomed at Keflavik by a traditional
water arch. Amongst the passengers was a group of high profile UK journalists accompanied by
flybe’s Routes Director, Fred Kochak who, on arrival, together with the crew and fellow travellers,
was honoured to be greeted by the UK Ambassador to Iceland, His Excellency Mr Stuart Gill
to the Icelandic airport from Birmingham and the flight was welcomed at Keflavik by a traditional
water arch. Amongst the passengers was a group of high profile UK journalists accompanied by
flybe’s Routes Director, Fred Kochak who, on arrival, together with the crew and fellow travellers,
was honoured to be greeted by the UK Ambassador to Iceland, His Excellency Mr Stuart Gill
Judging by Flybe's schedule, they obviously aren't interested in onward connections. My guess the route will be short lived when Icelandic start next year
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Flybe might be referring to it as Reykjavik but from what I've been reading they're actually operating to/from Keflavik which is a totally different airport and 50km from Reykjavik!
If so then they might at least be honest and refer to it as "Reykjavík-Keflavík" so passengers actually know which airport they're travelling to/from.
If so then they might at least be honest and refer to it as "Reykjavík-Keflavík" so passengers actually know which airport they're travelling to/from.
Flybe might be referring to it as Reykjavik but from what I've been reading they're actually operating to/from Keflavik which is a totally different airport and 50km from Reykjavik!
If so then they might at least be honest and refer to it as "Reykjavík-Keflavík" so passengers actually know which airport they're travelling to/from
If so then they might at least be honest and refer to it as "Reykjavík-Keflavík" so passengers actually know which airport they're travelling to/from
As a matter of interest, do any international flights operate to REK these days?
Makes BHX approx 10km from the city look brilliant!!!