BIRMINGHAM - 6
Birmingham-Deauville
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Notwithstanding the "society" destination, racecourse and nice beach, how that is supposed to attract your average Midlander I really don't know, and I doubt there will be too many French accents to be heard on the service - after all the french only tend to go abroad to places where they can speak french and eat french food - pretty much like your average Brit. really!
Still, when all said, it is a new destination, certainly in the modern era (I reckon it might have been flown back in the 50s or 60s but haven't checked) and shows that however misguided, or not, they may prove to, FlyBe are still committed to BHX.
Notwithstanding the "society" destination, racecourse and nice beach, how that is supposed to attract your average Midlander I really don't know, and I doubt there will be too many French accents to be heard on the service - after all the french only tend to go abroad to places where they can speak french and eat french food - pretty much like your average Brit. really!
Still, when all said, it is a new destination, certainly in the modern era (I reckon it might have been flown back in the 50s or 60s but haven't checked) and shows that however misguided, or not, they may prove to, FlyBe are still committed to BHX.
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In comes Deauville gap-filing for one of the 175's (Bordeaux Monday and Wednesday) but less fanfare for the removal of another French route.
Perpignan has gone and although once weekly it was bookable not long ago.
Daza - The flybe situation is perplexing and with most of routes there was an indication of a slow start or tailing-off even if they haven't really given them time to bed-in.
However the worrying aspect is Toulouse and Waterford and if they can't make money with a 70-85% load factor on a Dash it is worrying. I have monitored fares on both of these and Waterford you could say is "soft" in winter but Toulouse is a mystery although I am sure they are using sophisticated yield-management, which to the untrained eye (mine) is not always that clear.
Ryanair
Trieste has also disappeared from the Ryanair site after many years of operating. More significant the base seems to be remaining at three for the whole of summer with Trieste gone, a couple Dublin frequencies chopped and some away based flying the schedule now seems to fit three. August was showing four based but overall still only between one or two flights less than 2014.
Pete
Perpignan has gone and although once weekly it was bookable not long ago.
Daza - The flybe situation is perplexing and with most of routes there was an indication of a slow start or tailing-off even if they haven't really given them time to bed-in.
However the worrying aspect is Toulouse and Waterford and if they can't make money with a 70-85% load factor on a Dash it is worrying. I have monitored fares on both of these and Waterford you could say is "soft" in winter but Toulouse is a mystery although I am sure they are using sophisticated yield-management, which to the untrained eye (mine) is not always that clear.
Ryanair
Trieste has also disappeared from the Ryanair site after many years of operating. More significant the base seems to be remaining at three for the whole of summer with Trieste gone, a couple Dublin frequencies chopped and some away based flying the schedule now seems to fit three. August was showing four based but overall still only between one or two flights less than 2014.
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November route analysis (Internation
Passenger figures provided by the CAA. Load factor and average pax per flight from libhomeradar and a local blog.
The November total was good and this is reflected in the main. As you can see OSL, KEF, NOC, CGN, HAM were not great but Waterford and Toulouse were amazing November figures. Waterford is the highest flybe load factor service to get the chop (outside of Med routes) since Perpignan operated many years ago on the 146.
Flybe must be not been able to sell sufficient higher fares after the initial batch of cheap seats were sold although with TLS I have not seen any evidence of fare variation or constant cheap seats (Waterford fares did tail-off in November).
Paris is again a worry when the 195 leaves as Air France for next summer is still showing 2 x A319's and 1 x A320. Therefore a net loss of 180 seats a day.
DUBLIN............. 62,025............135 per flight........87% load factor
DUBAI................45,891............382.................. ...89%
AMSTERDAM...... 41,886.............90......................77%
PARIS (CDG).......33,421............102......................81%
FRANKFURT........25,380............106...................... 67%
ALICANTE...........15265............178..................... ..89%
DUSSELDORF......16,761.............58....................... 59%
MUNICH.............14,781.............92.................... ... 76%
MALAGA............11458.............169..................... .. 87%
SHARM EL S........4502..............173...................... 81%
BRUSSELS...........9053...............42.................... ...52%
ISTANBUL...........8,291.............101.................... ...67%
COPENHAGEN...... 8266...............83........................66%
FARO.................7700..............167.................. .... 83%
NEWARK............ 7,581.............152.......................90%
ZURICH.............. 7,449...............72...................... 72%
HANOVER........... 6287...............61....................... 69%
CORK.................6,294..............57.................. ......79%
ISLAMABAD.........5,908.............246..................... ..73%
LAS PALMAS........3923..............140...................... 70%
ASHKHABAD ........5,502.............162.......................87% way up
STUTTGART........5,379...............55..................... ..62%
BARCELONA.........5,376.............158..................... . 82%
HAMBURG........... 4,663...............50..................... 55%
BYDGOSZCZ........4,511.............174...................... 92%
MILAN (MXP).......4,484...............61...................... 69%
BRATISLAVA....... 4,224..............162......................86%
DELHI/ATQ......... 7,024..............207......................81%
LYON................ 3,479...............58...................... 66%
LARNACA............3119...............173................... .. 81%
HURGHADA..........2045...............126.................... . 60%
SHANNON...........3,282................36................... .. 71%
KRAKOW.............3,176..............176................... .. 93%
GIBRALTAR..........3,022 ..............121..................... 70%
FUNCHAL.............3,020.............157................... .. 74%
GDANSK..............2,929..............163.................. ... 86%
COLOGNE............2,928...............49................... ...63%
KAUNAS..............2,879..............160.................. ... 88%
MALTA...............2,878...............169................. ... 89%
KATOWICE..........2,834...............177................... . 94%
FLORENCE...........2,663............... 61.................... 69%
ROME (FCO)........2,576 ..............143.................... 67%
TOULOUSE..........2,541 ................55.................... 71%
BERLIN (TXL)......2,388.................57.................... 65%
KNOCK............... 2,170................ 47.....................60%
PALMA .............. 1,805................ 87.................... 45%
WATERFORD....... 1,565................ 60.................... 77%
OSLO ............... 1,541................ 45.................... 52%
DALAMAN.............602................151.................. .. 70%
KEFLAVIK........... 1,456................ 56.................... 64%
OPORTO.............1,346................ 48.................... 55%
GOTEBORG..........1,214................ 24.................... 66%
VENICE................601 ...............100................... 50%
TENERIFE........... ????? wrong split between schedule & IT
ARRECIFE............????? wrong split between schedule & IT
FUERTEVENTURA..????? wrong split between schedule & IT
Pete
The November total was good and this is reflected in the main. As you can see OSL, KEF, NOC, CGN, HAM were not great but Waterford and Toulouse were amazing November figures. Waterford is the highest flybe load factor service to get the chop (outside of Med routes) since Perpignan operated many years ago on the 146.
Flybe must be not been able to sell sufficient higher fares after the initial batch of cheap seats were sold although with TLS I have not seen any evidence of fare variation or constant cheap seats (Waterford fares did tail-off in November).
Paris is again a worry when the 195 leaves as Air France for next summer is still showing 2 x A319's and 1 x A320. Therefore a net loss of 180 seats a day.
DUBLIN............. 62,025............135 per flight........87% load factor
DUBAI................45,891............382.................. ...89%
AMSTERDAM...... 41,886.............90......................77%
PARIS (CDG).......33,421............102......................81%
FRANKFURT........25,380............106...................... 67%
ALICANTE...........15265............178..................... ..89%
DUSSELDORF......16,761.............58....................... 59%
MUNICH.............14,781.............92.................... ... 76%
MALAGA............11458.............169..................... .. 87%
SHARM EL S........4502..............173...................... 81%
BRUSSELS...........9053...............42.................... ...52%
ISTANBUL...........8,291.............101.................... ...67%
COPENHAGEN...... 8266...............83........................66%
FARO.................7700..............167.................. .... 83%
NEWARK............ 7,581.............152.......................90%
ZURICH.............. 7,449...............72...................... 72%
HANOVER........... 6287...............61....................... 69%
CORK.................6,294..............57.................. ......79%
ISLAMABAD.........5,908.............246..................... ..73%
LAS PALMAS........3923..............140...................... 70%
ASHKHABAD ........5,502.............162.......................87% way up
STUTTGART........5,379...............55..................... ..62%
BARCELONA.........5,376.............158..................... . 82%
HAMBURG........... 4,663...............50..................... 55%
BYDGOSZCZ........4,511.............174...................... 92%
MILAN (MXP).......4,484...............61...................... 69%
BRATISLAVA....... 4,224..............162......................86%
DELHI/ATQ......... 7,024..............207......................81%
LYON................ 3,479...............58...................... 66%
LARNACA............3119...............173................... .. 81%
HURGHADA..........2045...............126.................... . 60%
SHANNON...........3,282................36................... .. 71%
KRAKOW.............3,176..............176................... .. 93%
GIBRALTAR..........3,022 ..............121..................... 70%
FUNCHAL.............3,020.............157................... .. 74%
GDANSK..............2,929..............163.................. ... 86%
COLOGNE............2,928...............49................... ...63%
KAUNAS..............2,879..............160.................. ... 88%
MALTA...............2,878...............169................. ... 89%
KATOWICE..........2,834...............177................... . 94%
FLORENCE...........2,663............... 61.................... 69%
ROME (FCO)........2,576 ..............143.................... 67%
TOULOUSE..........2,541 ................55.................... 71%
BERLIN (TXL)......2,388.................57.................... 65%
KNOCK............... 2,170................ 47.....................60%
PALMA .............. 1,805................ 87.................... 45%
WATERFORD....... 1,565................ 60.................... 77%
OSLO ............... 1,541................ 45.................... 52%
DALAMAN.............602................151.................. .. 70%
KEFLAVIK........... 1,456................ 56.................... 64%
OPORTO.............1,346................ 48.................... 55%
GOTEBORG..........1,214................ 24.................... 66%
VENICE................601 ...............100................... 50%
TENERIFE........... ????? wrong split between schedule & IT
ARRECIFE............????? wrong split between schedule & IT
FUERTEVENTURA..????? wrong split between schedule & IT
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FLYBE AND DEAUVILLE
Personally I think the route planning department must have taken leave of their senses in deciding to operate a three times weekly schedule to Deauville from Birmingham. I have stayed in the area and although very nice it is very expensive even by French standards. Also I cannot see many or any French people from that area wishing to travel to Birmingham in that period when like its more famous counterpart in the South of France is to be seen and ´promenade´.
The main event in August is the racing festival with more prestigious racing taking place on a Sunday - guess what the timings are for the aircraft to leave around midday - oh dear. So in fact if you wanted to go to the races you would have to leave on a Thursday and return on a Tuesday. Sorry cannot see it working - I would thought keeping Waterford would have been a better bet. Also Flybe are operating a twice weekly Exeter-Deauville service at that same time. Enough said.
The main event in August is the racing festival with more prestigious racing taking place on a Sunday - guess what the timings are for the aircraft to leave around midday - oh dear. So in fact if you wanted to go to the races you would have to leave on a Thursday and return on a Tuesday. Sorry cannot see it working - I would thought keeping Waterford would have been a better bet. Also Flybe are operating a twice weekly Exeter-Deauville service at that same time. Enough said.
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RVRs at BHX.
Just curious as to whether any of you guys can explain how BHX manages to retain RVR's of over 600m and sometimes in excess of 1,500m when the met vis. is given as 100m. In fact, early yesterday evening the vis was only 50m for a time but the lowest RVR on the half hour weather reports was 600 and then 750. Did any flights have to divert?
Have BHX got some secret formula for keeping the fog off the runway and on the grass?? Seriously though, did the wall of thick fog thin out along the runway so that at the 15 end it was ok for landings. 50m met vis often means RVRs more like 150-200m which even with modern aids can cause problems for some aircraft.
Here at MAN, we often get the reverse effect. Early yesterday incredibly we were in LVPs despite a met vis of >10km but at the touchdown an RVR was fluctuating between 600 and >1,500m. Still not sure why it necessitated LVPs, but the met kept predicting a deterioration in the vis. to as low as 200m which never happened. A good job it was Sunday and not a weekday with the influx of flybe flights, or the holding delays would have been a real headache.
Just curious as to whether any of you guys can explain how BHX manages to retain RVR's of over 600m and sometimes in excess of 1,500m when the met vis. is given as 100m. In fact, early yesterday evening the vis was only 50m for a time but the lowest RVR on the half hour weather reports was 600 and then 750. Did any flights have to divert?
Have BHX got some secret formula for keeping the fog off the runway and on the grass?? Seriously though, did the wall of thick fog thin out along the runway so that at the 15 end it was ok for landings. 50m met vis often means RVRs more like 150-200m which even with modern aids can cause problems for some aircraft.
Here at MAN, we often get the reverse effect. Early yesterday incredibly we were in LVPs despite a met vis of >10km but at the touchdown an RVR was fluctuating between 600 and >1,500m. Still not sure why it necessitated LVPs, but the met kept predicting a deterioration in the vis. to as low as 200m which never happened. A good job it was Sunday and not a weekday with the influx of flybe flights, or the holding delays would have been a real headache.
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Flying over an airfield the runway can appear perfectly clear, but once on final approach at 200' or 100' agl the runway can be significantly obscured as you are now looking through the 'breadth', rather than depth, of the obscuration. RVR, although not a perfect system, better represents this than met or observed vis.
BHX Is no exception, other than fog tends to form initially, and earlier than forecast, at the 15 end as it is lower, but there are so many variables that you cant predict exactly where the fog will nestle or for how long.
Not too long ago the 15 end claimed a cessna citation on an organ transfer flight, the crew flew straight into the glideslope antennae. The other end was clear(ish), the tower could see the fog bank but not the burning aircraft contained within nor the blue lights on the rescue rigs.
BHX Is no exception, other than fog tends to form initially, and earlier than forecast, at the 15 end as it is lower, but there are so many variables that you cant predict exactly where the fog will nestle or for how long.
Not too long ago the 15 end claimed a cessna citation on an organ transfer flight, the crew flew straight into the glideslope antennae. The other end was clear(ish), the tower could see the fog bank but not the burning aircraft contained within nor the blue lights on the rescue rigs.
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Brussels Airlines
Currently showing 4 daily in the week during summer 2015 down from 5. Not a lot of seats lost from 11 May as all flights are showing from then, as the RJ100, which is an extra 17 seats per flight over the Dash.
KLM is still showing ll mainline this coming summer except at the weekend and high-summer and is also back to five daily - another increase.
Lufthansa still showing the A321 daily on LH956.
MANFOD
Sunday was remarkable with very low visibility all around the West Midlands but BHX actually received diversions from Luton, Oxford and Coventry!
I do remember the days when the iRVR readers were new and the vis appeared to be 10K yet the RVR was 150m, as Darkbarly has explained away below. More recently it seems the other way around where BHX's RVR's don't spend much time below 200.
Pete
KLM is still showing ll mainline this coming summer except at the weekend and high-summer and is also back to five daily - another increase.
Lufthansa still showing the A321 daily on LH956.
MANFOD
Sunday was remarkable with very low visibility all around the West Midlands but BHX actually received diversions from Luton, Oxford and Coventry!
I do remember the days when the iRVR readers were new and the vis appeared to be 10K yet the RVR was 150m, as Darkbarly has explained away below. More recently it seems the other way around where BHX's RVR's don't spend much time below 200.
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Codeshare
Cathay Pacific will start to code-share on Flybe fights between BHX-AMS/CDG.
Cathay Pacific / flyBe Expands Codeshare Partnership from mid-Jan 2015 | Airline Route
This summer will see quite a few oneworld carriers appearing on the departure boards through codeshare; AA, BA, IB, QF and CX. Not bad considering this time last year there was zero oneworld presence at all.
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Codeshares
That's good news.
With regard to code share flights, at least BHX (as with most airports) list them on their Arrival/Departure boards, unlike EMA, which appears never to be bothered to list the few which are operated through that airport!
It shouldn't surprise me however as communicating accurate information to the travelling public always seems to be a major problem for EMA.
Balair
Apologies for the thread drift, but Chinapattern's comment triggered an issue I have with EMA which continues to irritate me, as you can see above...!
I think I had better take a chill pill and not let their failings bother me so much...!
With regard to code share flights, at least BHX (as with most airports) list them on their Arrival/Departure boards, unlike EMA, which appears never to be bothered to list the few which are operated through that airport!
It shouldn't surprise me however as communicating accurate information to the travelling public always seems to be a major problem for EMA.
Balair
Apologies for the thread drift, but Chinapattern's comment triggered an issue I have with EMA which continues to irritate me, as you can see above...!
I think I had better take a chill pill and not let their failings bother me so much...!
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Gatwick is currently showing adverts which includes the Birmingham Airport Logo with a strap line that suggests massive support for a second runway.
The first quote is even from the Bhx CEO.
I have to be honest I find that absolutely staggering and totally at odds with the frenzied responses by BHX to the airport comission.
Thinking privately that they may need additional capacity is one thing .....
BUT actively promoting its expansion over your own airport ?
Well I find that simply jaw dropping !
The first quote is even from the Bhx CEO.
I have to be honest I find that absolutely staggering and totally at odds with the frenzied responses by BHX to the airport comission.
Thinking privately that they may need additional capacity is one thing .....
BUT actively promoting its expansion over your own airport ?
Well I find that simply jaw dropping !
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Bagso, from memory the 2 airports have been aligned in their thought process publicly for 6 months. If you think it through it does make perfect sense, an expanded Gatwick is of little threat to BHX, an expanded Heathrow is a massive threat. It maybe a little symbiotic but it does add up.
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Bagso, from memory the 2 airports have been aligned in their thought process publicly for 6 months. If you think it through it does make perfect sense, an expanded Gatwick is of little threat to BHX, an expanded Heathrow is a massive threat. It maybe a little symbiotic but it does add up.
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A320 Charter Airlines at Birmingham ??
I see a recruitment agency is looking for experienced cabin crew for
work at BHX airport May 2015 - Sept 2015.....on a320 aircraft.
Any ideas who the airline will be ????
work at BHX airport May 2015 - Sept 2015.....on a320 aircraft.
Any ideas who the airline will be ????