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BHX & flybe confirm summer expansion
Flybe Boosts Summer Schedule From Birmingham - Birmingham Airport
Note the comment re new route planning is "well advanced".
At least it seems something is brewing in respect of new routes.
Pete
Note the comment re new route planning is "well advanced".
At least it seems something is brewing in respect of new routes.
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Thanks for posting the news release, keen to see what FlyBE has in store!
Hoping that the next press release will be somewhat better compiled, the schedule is somewhat all over the place, suggesting a third frequency even for MXP.. and completely ommitting HAJ...
Hoping that the next press release will be somewhat better compiled, the schedule is somewhat all over the place, suggesting a third frequency even for MXP.. and completely ommitting HAJ...
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Biman government loan for planes
Just found this press report:
Biman gets $356m to buy two aircraft | Govt approves the hard-term loans from foreign sources
Wonder if that's good news for BHX?
Biman gets $356m to buy two aircraft | Govt approves the hard-term loans from foreign sources
Wonder if that's good news for BHX?
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MXP
The press release on the BHX site looks confusing.
At first look it seems like there are 14 departures a week rising to 20 for the period 24/05/14 - 13/09/14.
The key point missing is that the flights 24/05/14-13/09/14 are Saturday ONLY.
The current Flybe timetable has these departures from 31/03/14 :
06.45 Daily
07.15 Sa only
13.50 Sa only (24/05/14 -13/09/14)
16.50 Daily EX Sa (16.55 on a Sunday)
So it's 15 departures a week in high summer . Why would 3 departures on Saturday be needed? seems overkill.
nevertheless congratulations to Flybe for expanding the BHX operations on a flight they know ( ditto Stuttgart) hope it works out for them.
At first look it seems like there are 14 departures a week rising to 20 for the period 24/05/14 - 13/09/14.
The key point missing is that the flights 24/05/14-13/09/14 are Saturday ONLY.
The current Flybe timetable has these departures from 31/03/14 :
06.45 Daily
07.15 Sa only
13.50 Sa only (24/05/14 -13/09/14)
16.50 Daily EX Sa (16.55 on a Sunday)
So it's 15 departures a week in high summer . Why would 3 departures on Saturday be needed? seems overkill.
nevertheless congratulations to Flybe for expanding the BHX operations on a flight they know ( ditto Stuttgart) hope it works out for them.
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Getonittt wrote
I've checked the BHX-MXP schedule for Saturday in Summer 2014 this morning and its now listed as twice daily on Saturday, one of those departures, the later of the two is probably being predominantly used by a tour operator (Inghams) for holidays to the Italian Lakes.
Daza
Why would 3 departures on Saturday be needed? seems overkill.
Daza
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GERMANWINGS - DUS
Was the DUS not supposed to change to GWI (operated by EWG) in April or May this year? Happened to be booking flights in August and noted that it's still showing as DLH operated by EWG.
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The Dusseldorf transition is not straight forward. How I see it is that You will be still flying on a CRJ900 of Eurowings. The flight will be operated on behalf of Germanwings who in turn are operating it on DLH flight numbers . . In effect they are being wet leased to GWI.
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Timeline for LH to 4U change here - https://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/...=DE_de_NLemail
No DUS-BHX date appears to be specified so far.
Eurowings and Germanwings are both fully owned by LH (not always been the case).
As long as the flight DUS-BHX has not been transitioned to 4U, it will be operated by Eurowings on behalf of LH with a LH flight number (as for many years now).
Once transitioned, same as with HAM-BHX, Eurowings will continue flying, but with a 4U flight number. With this 4U number, it will be bookable through lh.com or germanwings.com (latter normally works out cheaper).
The only visible thing to change is the change of on-board catering and luggage fees.
What will be an interesting time is when Eurowings ceases to fly for germanwings - this is only supposed to be a temporary measure. In the mid-term Germanwings is planned to be operating an all Airbus fleet, which wouldn't be all that well suted for the routes e.g. out of BHX.
No DUS-BHX date appears to be specified so far.
Eurowings and Germanwings are both fully owned by LH (not always been the case).
As long as the flight DUS-BHX has not been transitioned to 4U, it will be operated by Eurowings on behalf of LH with a LH flight number (as for many years now).
Once transitioned, same as with HAM-BHX, Eurowings will continue flying, but with a 4U flight number. With this 4U number, it will be bookable through lh.com or germanwings.com (latter normally works out cheaper).
The only visible thing to change is the change of on-board catering and luggage fees.
What will be an interesting time is when Eurowings ceases to fly for germanwings - this is only supposed to be a temporary measure. In the mid-term Germanwings is planned to be operating an all Airbus fleet, which wouldn't be all that well suted for the routes e.g. out of BHX.
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Hotel Tango , i did say the transition is not straight forward!
Insuinidi , why would you say that? DUS is one of BHX's top routes, it carries more pax than MAN (may suprise some people) and is on a par with the MUC route.
Germanwings is planned to be operating an all Airbus fleet, which wouldn't be all that well suted for the routes e.g. out of BHX
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No DUS-BHX date appears to be specified so far.
Eurowings and Germanwings are both fully owned by LH (not always been the case).
Eurowings and Germanwings are both fully owned by LH (not always been the case).
Thereafter all Dusseldorf short haul will be under the GWI branding
There remains 5 mainline LH 32x at Dusseldorf through 2014 plus several Eurowings CRJ900s.
16 (4 already received) 320s and 4 extra 319s will be transferred to Germanwings between now and summer 2015.
The Eurowings fleet of 23 CRJ 900s are scheduled to remain in group post 2015 and provisionally all should be operating within the Germanwings network.
The plan for other regional brand Lufthansa Cityline will be they loose the CRJ and retain the Embraer 190/195 based out of Munich and thin routes from Frankfurt operating in support of mainline.
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My primary concern would have been BHX-HAM/TXL regarding a CRJ/Airbus switch. For TXL that WILL mean 4/7 in summer, for HAM I have no doubt that daily wouldn't be sustainable with an Airbus. But if rutankrd is right, then the CRJs have some time left fortunately.
My primary concern would have been BHX-HAM/TXL regarding a CRJ/Airbus switch. For TXL that WILL mean 4/7 in summer, for HAM I have no doubt that daily wouldn't be sustainable with an Airbus. But if rutankrd is right, then the CRJs have some time left fortunately.
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NCL
According to the NCL thread, the T3 service BHX-NCL will be operated by AIS Airlines on behalf of T3 from 3rd Feb using a J31. No mention if frequency stays the same. Am amazed this route has clung on for so long, perhaps a smaller a/c (T3 use a J41?) will help the route survive?
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insuindi
I agree with your views on Hamburg and like Berlin it will either go 4 a week or disappear.
Slight improvement on the Berlin load factor in December but maybe four is about right from now on and as some say one for flybe on the 175 it 4U give it the chop.
Norwegian
I didn't think we would seing them so quickly alas not a pax in sight but one of their 787's apparently will be gracing the BHX tarmac in an hour or so (weather permitting). MAEL seem to be building nicely with Thomson "BK" here and a Jet2 757 this week as well as flybe and their own equipment.
STATS
They have been updated as expected for December but still wrong in some instances, I believe some charter figureshave been mixed in with schedule.
Dubai up 9% 44008 average 355 per flight and 84%. A few three class on EK39 this week which is disappointing but seems to be back on track.
Ryanair
Milan MXP is in the booking engine so I assume Bergamo will get released one day. It does not show on the first search but does when you edit. The BHX schedule is still far from complete.
GF - Nobody could ever moan at Eastern for not giving it a chance. They seem to be trying everything but from four to three to two and now a smaller aircraft does indicate that all is not well.
Pete
I agree with your views on Hamburg and like Berlin it will either go 4 a week or disappear.
Slight improvement on the Berlin load factor in December but maybe four is about right from now on and as some say one for flybe on the 175 it 4U give it the chop.
Norwegian
I didn't think we would seing them so quickly alas not a pax in sight but one of their 787's apparently will be gracing the BHX tarmac in an hour or so (weather permitting). MAEL seem to be building nicely with Thomson "BK" here and a Jet2 757 this week as well as flybe and their own equipment.
STATS
They have been updated as expected for December but still wrong in some instances, I believe some charter figureshave been mixed in with schedule.
Dubai up 9% 44008 average 355 per flight and 84%. A few three class on EK39 this week which is disappointing but seems to be back on track.
Ryanair
Milan MXP is in the booking engine so I assume Bergamo will get released one day. It does not show on the first search but does when you edit. The BHX schedule is still far from complete.
GF - Nobody could ever moan at Eastern for not giving it a chance. They seem to be trying everything but from four to three to two and now a smaller aircraft does indicate that all is not well.
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[I didn't think we would seeing them so quickly alas not a pax in sight but one of their 787's apparently will be gracing the BHX tarmac in an hour or so (weather permitting).
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A very busy few hours in store for The Monarch engineers.Not only is a Norwegian 787 due in within the hour but an RAF A330 arrived a couple of hours ago and if rumours are correct another is also due either tonight or tomorrow.
Not sure if they will all fit in the hangar though!!!!
Not sure if they will all fit in the hangar though!!!!