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Old 29th Mar 2015, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Cheers, looks like Cityjet are going head to head with Flybe then on the Paris & Edinburgh routes, good on them after all they did step in after Flybe axed the routes !!

ATR 72 much better than the ATR 42 and more seats, shame Flybe don't open two different destinations and leave Cityjet alone on these 2.
REI is no better than EHH except it has more seats but costs an extra 30% to operate. I'm guessing they had load factors of the 42 at 95+% to even have a hope in hell of making money. You can't compete a 20+ year old ATR with whatever metal Flybe will be offering be it a E190, -8 or the Sobart/Flybe ATR72-500. This will be a painful death of Cityjet at Cardiff I'm afraid unless there is substantial AF throughput.
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Old 9th Apr 2015, 09:23
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Passenger numbers down by 38,000 at CWL

Cardiff Airport passenger numbers fall by 38,000 in 2014 - BBC News
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 12:21
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KLM

Just been to Europe on the KLM no spare seats to and from and also a good price to Italy via Amsterdam and worked well with just a chance for a coffe in between flights. I live local to Cardiff Airport and was home within 20 minutes of landing, even getting my case. much better than going to Bristol, 2 hours is my best record from there after landing. Surley KLM should be using the E190 on all the Cardiff flights if they are so busy. Extra twenty seats.

Security were polite and very quick. Last trip to Bristol and I queued for 30 minutes at security then had to que for 20 minutes for a cup of tea, not to mention £31 to park the car for 1 1/2 days. So good luck to Cardiff and please start shouting about what they do well.

Booked now for Milan in September from Cardiff. £70 each return so definitely cannot fault Flybe prices and their flights look like generating a lot of interest.

I must admit I see a lot of flights into and out and Bristol and think that if some of them were running from Cardiff I would use them. However, just hate that trip to Bristol and driving back late at night and don't end up booking in the end.

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Old 10th Apr 2015, 13:44
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Well don't go from BRS then, try BHX or LHR
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 15:39
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Cracking jet - I just want to travel from my local airport more often(Cardiff). So definitely don't want to travel from Birmingham or Heathrow thanks if I can help it. Just hate the car travel. I am just pleased that a few new destinations are available from Cardiff at comparable prices to Bristol at long last. £70 return to Milan from Cardiff seems excellent to me. 5 minutes travel to Cardiff or 1 1/2 hours to Bristol is a no brainier.
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 15:41
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'Cardiff Airport may no longer be on life support, but it?s certainly on benefits... it needs a life plan' - Wales Online

I really don't know if articles (supposedly by a former non-exec director) like this actually help CWL, it's all well and good saying that CWL should follow the NCL model. BUT the comparison between CWL and NCL somehow misses the major point that NCL is the main airport in that area, whereas for the severnside area it's BRS.

Actually I can't help but wonder how much of this article is really the work of a somewhat parochial Sion Barry*. The non-exec director (a former consultant to NCL) would realise NCL is pretty isolated, the closest serious competitor to NCL is LBA, which is about 90 miles away. Whereas CWL has BRS and BHX all within an approx 90 mile radius, with LHR about 120 miles away.

* It's for this reason I've not mentioned the director in question.
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 10:51
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Thomson 2016

I know that the holidays go in sale from Thursday but anyone know if CWL is going to benefit from some new routes for summer 2016? Seems quite a few new routes have been launched around the uk but nothing said about CWL.
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 11:57
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routes cwl

the answer to the last post is no.
they have dropped 3 routes i think from memory. they have added extra rotations to bucket and spade routes.
so no nothing new.
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 16:24
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NCL comparison - talking about the location of rivals isn't the point, the article is about how the business is operated.
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Old 26th Apr 2015, 20:27
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A mate has booked to travel on the CWL-MCO flight with Thomas Cook and it's saying it is operated by the B757 and not the A330, bit of a capacity drop, it's like when Monarch and Air Europe did the route via Bangor-Maine. Is this direct with the B757 or a fuel stop ? Does anyone know ?
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Old 26th Apr 2015, 21:13
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Both this Summer and next Summer will be operated by A330's. TCX's aircraft allocator printed on tickets isnt very accurate, last year i was apparently flying on an Avion Express A319 which obviously wasn't the case. A330's all round !
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Old 27th Apr 2015, 06:31
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Ah cool, cheers for that, I thought it would be the A330 and not the B757.

Be good if this route became a regular weekly operation again, maybe time will tell.
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 18:34
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Nice article online from our old friends at anna.aero regarding the new BE DUS route, and the launch of the new 2 x E190 base at the start of June.

Sales don't appear to be too bad at all on some of the routes, so fingers crossed that these routes perform for BE. I'll be a regular user of the EDI/GLA flights on a twice weekly basis soon, seem to be more reliable than the CityJet offering these days.

The ACC meeting was yesterday, so hopefully some news will come out of that with recent developments/objectives for CWL. Also heard that if BE's routes achieve the benchmark figures already set out in the original release, that they'll look to add further routes, which could mean another based aircraft for next Summer potentially. With the charter market at CWL, that has stagnated in recent years with both TOM and TCX seemingly cut and pasting their schedules year after year, the BE routes and any extra offerings from FR or the likes will be a welcome boost, with the majority of charter expansion taking place at BRS (logically). Also for Summer 2016, VY could add more rotations/destinations since their routes seem to be improving year after year !
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 22:21
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That is good news, hopefully BE will add some other tried and tested destinations or possibly some new ones ? MJV was always a popular one with BMI baby. Where else would they go ? France ?

Where else would Vueling go though ? They don't seem to be interested with the Canaries. Will FR gradually introduce another route ? The TFS has had good steady loads since its launch.
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 22:31
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The issue CWL has for the future of Flybe is the same one as there is for SOU and EXT in that they are trying to get rid of the E195's as quickly as possible. A couple of Q400's would be more suitable for all of the routes except FAO (MXP is a bit of a stretch but it is doable).

Even if the routes are profitable on the E195's that is not going to change Flybe's stance (The SOU/EXT 'sun' routes have been going for around 12 years now so they must make some money on them!), as I believe one of the key reasons behind the decision was the fact that they are on very unfavourable leasing deals, to the point where Flybe could lease A319's for less (so I've been told).

Using Q400's would however allow them to operate the remaining routes at higher frequencies, making them more appealing to business travellers, and they could also experiment with a few regional French routes in between and at weekends.

Vueling have a rapidly growing base in Rome, so a 2/3 weekly flight there in the summer wouldn't be a far fetched suggestion.
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 19:46
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Yes agree maybe we will have more "sun routes" with Flybe just like EXT & SOU have.

It would be good if Vueling added another destination, they've stuck at Cardiff which is great. Rome would be great as per same frequency as BCN.

What about FR ? I wonder if anything is in the pipeline along with TFS
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 21:01
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as I believe one of the key reasons behind the decision was the fact that they are on very unfavourable leasing deals, to the point where Flybe could lease A319's for less (so I've been told).
Well, if they can end the leases and return the E95s, couldn't they just as well simply negotiate a better deal and keep the jets if they were the right aircraft type?
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 21:39
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That I'm afraid I do not know, but I would also like to know the answer.
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Old 5th May 2015, 15:30
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Gulf carriers

I see CWL route management are in DXB for talks with a Gulf carrier, it mentions all 3 of the major carriers....Qatar, Emirates and Etihad, hope this materialises for CWL as this would be the news it's been waiting for and I'm sure the Welsh Government are also pushing for this big time having the upper hand over BRS, especially if they get the powers to desolve the air tax.

Fingers crossed !!
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No doubt cwl already has the upper hand over BRS as CWL has a runway able to handle floghts on the aircraft that rhese carriers already operate.


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