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Its the arbitrary nature of fines which seems to be the issue where someone can just impose one without due process or ever going near a court room.
If the same standards are not being applied to all airlines and there is no right to be even heard then there is a fair case.
Of course cancelling thousands of flights when economy is in doldrums with 20% unemployment just as summer season starts can be very effective.
Wonder how much Iberia have been fined in last 5 years......
If the same standards are not being applied to all airlines and there is no right to be even heard then there is a fair case.
Of course cancelling thousands of flights when economy is in doldrums with 20% unemployment just as summer season starts can be very effective.
Wonder how much Iberia have been fined in last 5 years......
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Good news for all who felt claustrophobic at the very basic and cramped low-cost terminal in Tampere-Pirkkala. Within a year a brand new terminal dedicated to low-cost airlines, double the size, will be built there. Somewhat surprisingly, knowing the Finnish aviation authorities' prolonged reluctance to do anything in favour of this development.
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Yeah I find Ryanair's approach to be on the Borders of pathetic. It's all games with them it seems. Some fines reversed or we will let 33000 people go and cut routes - now that is just petty. Bad business practices.
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33000 jobs is the total number of jobs, would only lose 33000 if ryanair pulled every route, no one has said that.
The real money comes from the money that pax spend in spain, not just 33000jobs at airports.
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Does anyone have any load factors from Magdeburg-Cochstedt? How are the routes performing? Does anyone reckon that Stanstead will be a new route considering the Altenburg-Stanstead route was closed at the end of March?
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Just another small set-back:
A Magistrate at Elche Mercantile Court, Alicante, ruled yesterday that RyanAir passengers arriving and departing must access the new Airport Terminal buildings by using the airbridges or a bus. RyanAir have five days to appeal against the ruling.
According to the newspaper, the Magistrate's ruling states that RyanAir was kept informed of the procedures to be adopted at the new terminal by the airport manager with various letters since December 2010 and there was no response registerd from RyanAir to these communications. AENA, the managing group of the airport had also provided evidence that RyanAir was actively using air-bridges at the airports of Madrid, Gran Canaria, Barcelona and Malaga.
It was also pointed out that 40% RyanAir passengers had been using buses for access to an from the old terminal building.
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http://www.diarioinformacion.com/alicante/2011/05/11/juez-avala-prohibicion-viajeros-ryanair-suban-pie-aviones/1125508.html
A Magistrate at Elche Mercantile Court, Alicante, ruled yesterday that RyanAir passengers arriving and departing must access the new Airport Terminal buildings by using the airbridges or a bus. RyanAir have five days to appeal against the ruling.
According to the newspaper, the Magistrate's ruling states that RyanAir was kept informed of the procedures to be adopted at the new terminal by the airport manager with various letters since December 2010 and there was no response registerd from RyanAir to these communications. AENA, the managing group of the airport had also provided evidence that RyanAir was actively using air-bridges at the airports of Madrid, Gran Canaria, Barcelona and Malaga.
It was also pointed out that 40% RyanAir passengers had been using buses for access to an from the old terminal building.
Source:
http://www.diarioinformacion.com/alicante/2011/05/11/juez-avala-prohibicion-viajeros-ryanair-suban-pie-aviones/1125508.html
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And some hours later, Ryanair welcomed the decision interpreting the order of the Magistrate in his own way... olé!
EL TRIBUNAL DE ALICANTE DICTAMINA QUE AENA HA ABUSADO DE SU?
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Whyever AENA designed and built a new terminal with all airbridges in this day and age is beyond me. Most LCCs prefer steps in order to cut down turnaround times. They have wasted a great deal of money and annoyed their biggest customer into reducing operations significantly. The terminal would have been good with a mixture of steps and airbridges, and if they'd done their research properly before they would have known this. They've shot themselves in the foot, wasted their own money and now expect to pass on their debt bill for full service facilities such as airbridges to airlines that dont want to use them!! Its fine to want to build a superior class facility when you have a majority of superior class customers, but for crying out loud your biggest customer is Ryanair, who would be happy with a shed in the corner of the airfield!!
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I don't see what the big deal is. If Ryanair doesn't like the terms that are on offer then they do not need to fly there.
They could easily move the services to Alicante South (Murcia) which is closer to Alicante than Beauvais is to Paris.
They could easily move the services to Alicante South (Murcia) which is closer to Alicante than Beauvais is to Paris.
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AENA, the managing group of the airport had also provided evidence that RyanAir was actively using air-bridges at the airports of Madrid, Gran Canaria, Barcelona and Malaga.
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AENA, the managing group of the airport had also provided evidence that RyanAir was actively using air-bridges at the airports of Madrid, Gran Canaria, Barcelona and Malaga.
They have nearly always used them in BCN, AGP and MAD but as they didn't use them in ALC until recently then I can see where they are coming from. ALC shouldn't of build a new terminal with all airbridges.
They could easily move the services to Alicante South (Murcia) which is closer to Alicante than Beauvais is to Paris.
On another note Ryanair may close ther Reus base for a few months next winter.
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A snippet from MOL.Or was it Father Jack.
Despite facing criticism for Ryanair’s customer service, O’Leary was quick to defend the airline, concluding: "This small, snotty paddy airline is now the world’s favourite. Quite simply, it’s cheap **** off.
It seems the word was cut for no reason, he did not say fu.
However, it can be seen in news reports without editing.
Despite facing criticism for Ryanair’s customer service, O’Leary was quick to defend the airline, concluding: "This small, snotty paddy airline is now the world’s favourite. Quite simply, it’s cheap **** off.
It seems the word was cut for no reason, he did not say fu.
However, it can be seen in news reports without editing.
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Airbridges are used in BCN, MAD, TFS, ACE, LPA, AGP and now ALC. This makes the 35 minute turnaround nearly impossible. Delays become frequent as slots are missed and the operation just isn't as efficient.
I am surprised AENA dont give airlines an option if they have the ability to use either or.
I would think the new airport near Murcia will become a base, and take a lot of traffic from ALC, maybe in the summer see a split of 5 A/C at each base. This is purely speculation however.
I am surprised AENA dont give airlines an option if they have the ability to use either or.
I would think the new airport near Murcia will become a base, and take a lot of traffic from ALC, maybe in the summer see a split of 5 A/C at each base. This is purely speculation however.
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Originally Posted by frfly
I would think the new airport near Murcia will become a base, and take a lot of traffic from ALC, maybe in the summer see a split of 5 A/C at each base. This is purely speculation however.
Originally Posted by boyzinblue
Does anyone have any load factors from Magdeburg-Cochstedt? How are the routes performing?
- LPA: 1.907/16 (63,1%)
- ALC: 2.042/18 (60,0%)
- GRO: 1.973/18 (58,0%)
- AGP: 1.963/18 (57,7%)
Regarding Alicante, CSO was the route with lowest load factor.
RYR - ALC stats: Imageshack - ryralcstatsabril2011.png
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Article in Daliy T travel section last Saturday. RYR now make 1.5bn per year from add on charges. Ouch. The new calamity tax will raise 150m every year, when they only spent 1/2 that last year on stikes & volcanos, which caused this new tax in the first place. Let's wait for the 1 euro airbridge tax. That's 75m every year for a small % of that in costs. This is really how to make a small fortune out of avaition; and how to make a bigger one when you feel like it.
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Ryan aim for quick turn arounds and we all know the reason is to keep fares and costs down, fine. But, what seems to occur quite often, once the doors are closed, then we sit there waiting for what seems like for ever, waiting for air traffic control permission to start.
My point is, in reality, just how much extra does an air bidge cost if it's not being paid for and I assume less ground staff are required.
In Winter, it can be so bloody awful walking a big distance over a rain swept apron.
My point is, in reality, just how much extra does an air bidge cost if it's not being paid for and I assume less ground staff are required.
In Winter, it can be so bloody awful walking a big distance over a rain swept apron.
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Double edge sword with air bridges, me thinks, yes its true that in "its a knock out" style of boarding it saves a few minutes, but if you then have to wait for a ambilift to come to the R1 door for someone who can't make the stairs but could use the bridge it can be swings and roundabouts!
It can only be a matter of time before airports or the powers that be enforce APU shut down on turn a round and also ensure electrical power is from a ground source and not filthy GPU's
It is the Ryanair model that requires 25 minutes and warp 9 taxi speeds, if they insist on steps then fine, put them in a remote area and use buses, oh i forgot they won't want to pay for them either, tough sh*t
Nothing beats watching people get p*ss wet through dashing for the aircraft/terminal back in the UK
Add on charges
It will be very interesting to see how FR deal with the compensation surcharge when they have to comply with CAA requirement on transparent charges from 1st of June, you just know they'll find a dodge, to be fair the like of BA should be made to include all non optional charges in the advertised price, including fuel.
Card charges
I see which have launched a super complaint against airlines over the abuse of CC charges per person per sector, i personally can not see any justification for more than £1.99 per transaction or a % of total on debit cards and a bit more on Credit Cards
I think that in the fullness of time the prices you see is the price you pay
It can only be a matter of time before airports or the powers that be enforce APU shut down on turn a round and also ensure electrical power is from a ground source and not filthy GPU's
It is the Ryanair model that requires 25 minutes and warp 9 taxi speeds, if they insist on steps then fine, put them in a remote area and use buses, oh i forgot they won't want to pay for them either, tough sh*t
Nothing beats watching people get p*ss wet through dashing for the aircraft/terminal back in the UK
Add on charges
It will be very interesting to see how FR deal with the compensation surcharge when they have to comply with CAA requirement on transparent charges from 1st of June, you just know they'll find a dodge, to be fair the like of BA should be made to include all non optional charges in the advertised price, including fuel.
Card charges
I see which have launched a super complaint against airlines over the abuse of CC charges per person per sector, i personally can not see any justification for more than £1.99 per transaction or a % of total on debit cards and a bit more on Credit Cards
I think that in the fullness of time the prices you see is the price you pay
Article in Daliy T travel section last Saturday. RYR now make 1.5bn per year from add on charges. Ouch. The new calamity tax will raise 150m every year, when they only spent 1/2 that last year on stikes & volcanos, which caused this new tax in the first place. Let's wait for the 1 euro airbridge tax. That's 75m every year for a small % of that in costs. This is really how to make a small fortune out of avaition; and how to make a bigger one when you feel like it.