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There were similar signs re taking on a bag of airport bought items this morning at EMA displayed all around the Ryanair check in area. I put it to the test and had no problems at all taking on my usual hand luggage bag and a carrier bag of things I bought at the airport.
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Ryanair Loosing South Coast Passengers
Bournemouth Airport defiant on parking and drop-off charges
Bournemouth Airport is standing by its decision to charge people to pick up and drop passengers off.
The new measure, which will be introduced from Thursday, will remove the free 10-minute period currently in place at the airport, charging vehicles, including taxis £2.50 for a stay of up to 30 minutes.
The new move has attracted some criticism from passengers unhappy at the extra cost they will incur.
Ken Barnett, 82, of Hurn, commutes between Bournemouth and the Canary Islands around seven or eight times a year.
He said: “They say you can’t stop on the road because of terrorism. But you can at Heathrow.
“I am a frequent user of the airport and sometimes friends take me there and I take them and drop them off.
“You can go to other airports and drop people off. It’s a complete nonsense.”
Paul Knight, operations director at Bournemouth Airport said: “It’s no secret that, like many other regional airports, we have seen passenger numbers decline during the recession. Despite this over £45million has been invested in redeveloping the airport.
“We looked at what similar sized airports are doing and considered a number of different options, including a per passenger airport charge, but we settled on removing the 10-minute free period as it would only affect a minority of our passengers. We have received some complaints about this since it was announced.
“But we hope that our passengers will understand that it will allow us to keep investing in the airport which will, ultimately, lead to more airlines flying to a wider range of destinations, from one of the most modern terminals in the UK.”
Bournemouth Airport is standing by its decision to charge people to pick up and drop passengers off.
The new measure, which will be introduced from Thursday, will remove the free 10-minute period currently in place at the airport, charging vehicles, including taxis £2.50 for a stay of up to 30 minutes.
The new move has attracted some criticism from passengers unhappy at the extra cost they will incur.
Ken Barnett, 82, of Hurn, commutes between Bournemouth and the Canary Islands around seven or eight times a year.
He said: “They say you can’t stop on the road because of terrorism. But you can at Heathrow.
“I am a frequent user of the airport and sometimes friends take me there and I take them and drop them off.
“You can go to other airports and drop people off. It’s a complete nonsense.”
Paul Knight, operations director at Bournemouth Airport said: “It’s no secret that, like many other regional airports, we have seen passenger numbers decline during the recession. Despite this over £45million has been invested in redeveloping the airport.
“We looked at what similar sized airports are doing and considered a number of different options, including a per passenger airport charge, but we settled on removing the 10-minute free period as it would only affect a minority of our passengers. We have received some complaints about this since it was announced.
“But we hope that our passengers will understand that it will allow us to keep investing in the airport which will, ultimately, lead to more airlines flying to a wider range of destinations, from one of the most modern terminals in the UK.”
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Pilot missed Ryanair hard landing
Must have soft seats in the cockpit: 
Ryanair crew failed to notice damage - The Irish Times - Fri, Apr 29, 2011
Ryanair crew failed to notice damage
THE CREW of a Ryanair flight failed to realise that the left engine had touched the runway when landing at Dublin airport, a report by the Air Accident Investigation Unit has found.
The damage caused to the left engine nacelle (cover) went unnoticed for two subsequent flights, the report found. However, the damage was minor and there were no injuries.
The scraping on the engine cover came to the airline’s attention later that day due to a report by a member of the public.
The incident occurred when the flight from Rome landed at Dublin airport at 12.45pm on November 19th, 2009, in blustery conditions. There were 127 passengers and six crew on board the flight.
The left engine cover scraped the surface when the aircraft rolled to the left and pitched nose down.
The pilot did not suspect ground contact and for that reason did not report it or record it in the technical log, according to the report released yesterday.
“The commander said that the aircraft landed quite benignly albeit with the left wing low. The commander reported that at no stage did he or the first officer suspect ground contact,” the report said.
Subsequently a different crew operated the same Boeing 737 plane on two flights between Dublin and Poland.
The crew did not notice the damage in the required visual inspection of the plane before each of these flights.
The scraping was on the bottom surface of the engine cover, about 60cm above the ground.
The report noted the pilot is not required to squat low or use a mirror during the walk-around inspection.
The pilot of the Polish flight reported that “no damage was visible from the normal eye level and the crew of the inbound flight did not notice anything unusual”.
On returning to Dublin the pilot of the Polish flight learned that the scraping had been reported earlier by a member of the public.
Ryanair reported the event to the Air Accident Investigation Unit on November 20th, 2009.
The serious accident report concluded that the pilot of the Rome flight should have aborted the landing and tried again (conducted a go-around) because of the low manoeuvring close to the ground, the investigators said.
It said that the landing was made in blustery conditions but within crosswind limitations.
It found that the aircraft had landed on the left landing gear first before landing on the front and then right gear.
The nose had dropped two seconds before the left main gear contacted the ground, it said.
The report recommended that aircraft manufacturer Boeing should amend the pre-flight inspection checklist to include the checking of the lower surfaces of the engine nacelles for evidence of ground contact.
Ryanair should conduct a safety awareness programme to tell the flight crew about the threat of engine nacelle ground contact when landing in difficult wind conditions, the report said.
It also recommended that Boeing should make revisions to its flight crew training manual.
Ryanair crew failed to notice damage - The Irish Times - Fri, Apr 29, 2011
Ryanair crew failed to notice damage
THE CREW of a Ryanair flight failed to realise that the left engine had touched the runway when landing at Dublin airport, a report by the Air Accident Investigation Unit has found.
The damage caused to the left engine nacelle (cover) went unnoticed for two subsequent flights, the report found. However, the damage was minor and there were no injuries.
The scraping on the engine cover came to the airline’s attention later that day due to a report by a member of the public.
The incident occurred when the flight from Rome landed at Dublin airport at 12.45pm on November 19th, 2009, in blustery conditions. There were 127 passengers and six crew on board the flight.
The left engine cover scraped the surface when the aircraft rolled to the left and pitched nose down.
The pilot did not suspect ground contact and for that reason did not report it or record it in the technical log, according to the report released yesterday.
“The commander said that the aircraft landed quite benignly albeit with the left wing low. The commander reported that at no stage did he or the first officer suspect ground contact,” the report said.
Subsequently a different crew operated the same Boeing 737 plane on two flights between Dublin and Poland.
The crew did not notice the damage in the required visual inspection of the plane before each of these flights.
The scraping was on the bottom surface of the engine cover, about 60cm above the ground.
The report noted the pilot is not required to squat low or use a mirror during the walk-around inspection.
The pilot of the Polish flight reported that “no damage was visible from the normal eye level and the crew of the inbound flight did not notice anything unusual”.
On returning to Dublin the pilot of the Polish flight learned that the scraping had been reported earlier by a member of the public.
Ryanair reported the event to the Air Accident Investigation Unit on November 20th, 2009.
The serious accident report concluded that the pilot of the Rome flight should have aborted the landing and tried again (conducted a go-around) because of the low manoeuvring close to the ground, the investigators said.
It said that the landing was made in blustery conditions but within crosswind limitations.
It found that the aircraft had landed on the left landing gear first before landing on the front and then right gear.
The nose had dropped two seconds before the left main gear contacted the ground, it said.
The report recommended that aircraft manufacturer Boeing should amend the pre-flight inspection checklist to include the checking of the lower surfaces of the engine nacelles for evidence of ground contact.
Ryanair should conduct a safety awareness programme to tell the flight crew about the threat of engine nacelle ground contact when landing in difficult wind conditions, the report said.
It also recommended that Boeing should make revisions to its flight crew training manual.
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It found that the aircraft had landed on the left landing gear first before landing on the front and then right gear.
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In fairness, it has to be said that the underside of the engines cannot be side unless one squats down (as acknowledged in the report).
It should also be pointed out that although there was a pod strike, the actual landing itself was not particularly hard.
Here's the AAIU report:
http://www.aaiu.ie/upload/general/13...2011_007-0.PDF
It should also be pointed out that although there was a pod strike, the actual landing itself was not particularly hard.
Here's the AAIU report:
http://www.aaiu.ie/upload/general/13...2011_007-0.PDF
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To further complicate matters, according to Boeing's own tables the pod should not have struck the ground with the landing geometry recorded! In defence of the crew involved it would appear from the pictures in the report that the damage area was not that easy to see, there was no 'hard' landing to prompt a more thorough walk-around and as previously mentioned Boeings own data doesn't suggest a pod strike.
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What a misleading headline.
It wasn't even a hard landing and they no reason to check under the pods (which they wouldn't do as a matter of routine).
Hardly a case of negligence or incompetence by 'the pilot'.
It wasn't even a hard landing and they no reason to check under the pods (which they wouldn't do as a matter of routine).
Hardly a case of negligence or incompetence by 'the pilot'.
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In fairness, it has to be said that the underside of the engines cannot be side unless one squats down
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Ryanair Ciampino Incident Report published ?
Well, Begorah, the mods seem to think I am Ryanair bashing. . . as if, Bless Em!
The report (which has since vanished from R&N) having just been published on a landing incident a while back in Dublin just got me thinking, so I put this Q at the end of the existing thread on the Ciampino incident (since deleted Ta
) Duh ?.
Has anyone seen, or if it exists got a link to , any initial or final report on the landing incident FR suffered at the end of 2008 subsequent to ingesting half the Roman bird population whilst on short final to Ciampino?
Don't recall seeing anything on here.
The report (which has since vanished from R&N) having just been published on a landing incident a while back in Dublin just got me thinking, so I put this Q at the end of the existing thread on the Ciampino incident (since deleted Ta
) Duh ?.Has anyone seen, or if it exists got a link to , any initial or final report on the landing incident FR suffered at the end of 2008 subsequent to ingesting half the Roman bird population whilst on short final to Ciampino?
Don't recall seeing anything on here.
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Could I ask the Mods (pretty please ! ) why this somewhat pilot-orientated thread has been dumped amongst a slightly spotterish forum ?
Surely it is of interest to anyone flying a 738 that the nacelle can clout the ground whilst landing in an attitude that Boeing say "should" be OK.
There was the faintest whiff of Ryanair bashing starting, but my learned colleagues knocked that on the head thank god.
Any chance you would contemplate moving it at least to techlog or sumfin like that ?
Surely not entirely relevant here in Reggie SpotterForum2 Land ?
Surely it is of interest to anyone flying a 738 that the nacelle can clout the ground whilst landing in an attitude that Boeing say "should" be OK.
There was the faintest whiff of Ryanair bashing starting, but my learned colleagues knocked that on the head thank god.
Any chance you would contemplate moving it at least to techlog or sumfin like that ?
Surely not entirely relevant here in Reggie SpotterForum2 Land ?
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Ryanair to resume flights between Kaunas - Berlin from the end of October.
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With the routes transfered to VNO and the seasonal Greek routes all gone for the winter, they are going to find it very hard to keep two based units going. I would expect the other German routes that went in March to return as well.
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captplaystation,
The forum for spotters is called 'Spectator's Balcony'. You will find it in the dropdown menu listing PPRuNe forums. And by the way, there is nothing wrong with that forum or the contributors who post on it. They are people every bit as good as yourself, although most display better manners.
This forum is entitled 'Airlines, Airports & Routes' and is used primarily by industry professionals to discuss those topics. Your cursory dismissal of it reflects poorly on YOU, not the many excellent contributors to this forum and the discussions therein. And as for spotters, who are you to be so condescending towards them? Some of the most successful professionals in the aviation business were first attracted to this industry as a result of a keen interest in aircraft during their early years. I for one welcome their enthusiasm for our industry, and will happily answer their questions when I am able to do so.
The few with dismissive and condescending attitudes such as yours are a blight upon this industry. There is just no need for it. You could have made your suggestion that the mods move your landing incident issue to "techlog" without descending into childish generalisations against the valued contributors who frequent the AA&R forum. Your sneering negativity is not appreciated here.
And if you think you are so superior to those who do populate this forum, please stop to consider how "sumfin like that" [sic] makes you look. Do you really believe yourself to be more professional than the regulars on AA&R?
Apologies to readers on this thread for my drift away from the more immediate Ryanair topic. However, certain posters need to show greater courtesy and respect towards other users on here. I for one do not wish to see valued contributors dissuaded from sharing their comments with this forum for fear of being judged / intimidated by a small number of condescending interlopers. To young enthusiasts starting out who fancy a career in this industry ... keep reading, contributing and learning. Not everybody in aviation is totally up themselves. Just the odd ones who make themselves rather easy to spot.
SHED.
The forum for spotters is called 'Spectator's Balcony'. You will find it in the dropdown menu listing PPRuNe forums. And by the way, there is nothing wrong with that forum or the contributors who post on it. They are people every bit as good as yourself, although most display better manners.
This forum is entitled 'Airlines, Airports & Routes' and is used primarily by industry professionals to discuss those topics. Your cursory dismissal of it reflects poorly on YOU, not the many excellent contributors to this forum and the discussions therein. And as for spotters, who are you to be so condescending towards them? Some of the most successful professionals in the aviation business were first attracted to this industry as a result of a keen interest in aircraft during their early years. I for one welcome their enthusiasm for our industry, and will happily answer their questions when I am able to do so.
The few with dismissive and condescending attitudes such as yours are a blight upon this industry. There is just no need for it. You could have made your suggestion that the mods move your landing incident issue to "techlog" without descending into childish generalisations against the valued contributors who frequent the AA&R forum. Your sneering negativity is not appreciated here.
And if you think you are so superior to those who do populate this forum, please stop to consider how "sumfin like that" [sic] makes you look. Do you really believe yourself to be more professional than the regulars on AA&R?
Apologies to readers on this thread for my drift away from the more immediate Ryanair topic. However, certain posters need to show greater courtesy and respect towards other users on here. I for one do not wish to see valued contributors dissuaded from sharing their comments with this forum for fear of being judged / intimidated by a small number of condescending interlopers. To young enthusiasts starting out who fancy a career in this industry ... keep reading, contributing and learning. Not everybody in aviation is totally up themselves. Just the odd ones who make themselves rather easy to spot.
SHED.