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They surprised me really 
, it was a swift decision. Nevertheless, expect the second base in Wroclaw (tba as soon as tomorrow).
PS. An official agreement in Modlin is yet to be signed
, it was a swift decision. Nevertheless, expect the second base in Wroclaw (tba as soon as tomorrow).PS. An official agreement in Modlin is yet to be signed
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And indeed, Cawley is cited saying: "Everything indicates that the deal could be signed soon". Looks more like a kind of blackmail; FR aims at getting the agreement on conditions imposed by themselves.
I'd say, better curb any enthusiasm here. As a consolation, Wroclaw base seems rather certain and that one will be the first Ryanair base in Poland.
I'd say, better curb any enthusiasm here. As a consolation, Wroclaw base seems rather certain and that one will be the first Ryanair base in Poland.
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Does anybody know which would be the biggest unserved city by ryanair in Europe except Eastern Europe?
I take it you don't mean BUC, IEV or MOW.
City population is misleading - e.g. ZRH proper quite small, but the hinterland is most of CH. One of the last places MOL will go. LIS - discussed recently? AMS - again, like ZRH a massive hinterland - all of 'Holland' - ie N Holland & S Holland, within easy reach.
I'm not counting anywhere were MOL has stretched the boudaries of alternatives - eg MMX for CPH, FMM for MUC, BTS for VIE etc.
Cities with 2+ airports - ie MOL can play them off? BFS is a notable ommission, I think well documented here, esp re: BHD & restrictions.
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Does anybody know which would be the biggest unserved city by ryanair in Europe except Eastern Europe? Largest city not served looks to be Athens 3.74m. Also Budapest 1.73m; Prague 1.29m; Cologne 1.0m; Naples 0.96m
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Andy,
Really depends on your definition of city, and East. The only strict dictatorship left is Belarus (not that I'm pretending Russia is a model democracy). IST (as in Ataturk) is on the European side, metro Istanbul is 13m, counting both sides, the European being larger. We would assume MOL would go for SAW, which is on the Asian side, but recent form (and Jet2) have shown no reason to take that, or FR going into Turkey at all, as a given.
AMS serves a massive hinterland - the whole Randstad is some 7m, and that includes Rotterdam, which is 26m from AMS via FYRA, about the same time the bus takes from RTM to Centraal.
The Rhine-Ruhr 'Essendorf' connurbation could be measured as up to 10m, although FR do server NRN, aka Dusseldorf West.
Really depends on your definition of city, and East. The only strict dictatorship left is Belarus (not that I'm pretending Russia is a model democracy). IST (as in Ataturk) is on the European side, metro Istanbul is 13m, counting both sides, the European being larger. We would assume MOL would go for SAW, which is on the Asian side, but recent form (and Jet2) have shown no reason to take that, or FR going into Turkey at all, as a given.
AMS serves a massive hinterland - the whole Randstad is some 7m, and that includes Rotterdam, which is 26m from AMS via FYRA, about the same time the bus takes from RTM to Centraal.
The Rhine-Ruhr 'Essendorf' connurbation could be measured as up to 10m, although FR do server NRN, aka Dusseldorf West.
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As you have pointed out we have cities and we have connurbations.
Figures quoted relate to just the cities itself as connurbations/hinterlands can be quite vastly populated as you have pointed out.
There are as quoted a number of locations that have a large population but do not have Ryanair flying from the airports within as they most likely do not fill the criteria ie cheap to use.
Again how far is east and where are we going east from?
Andy
As you have pointed out we have cities and we have connurbations.
Figures quoted relate to just the cities itself as connurbations/hinterlands can be quite vastly populated as you have pointed out.
There are as quoted a number of locations that have a large population but do not have Ryanair flying from the airports within as they most likely do not fill the criteria ie cheap to use.
Again how far is east and where are we going east from?
Andy
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New base, first in Poland has just been announced in Wroclaw. They will add 6 directions: Malmoe, Venice-Treviso, Crete-Chania, Paris-Beauvais, Bournemouth and Malta.
Hangar being build for FR
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Some years ago it as rumoured that RYR had bought a large ex-military airfield near Prague. Further rumours about a maintenace base there or even a destination. Does anyone have any factual information about this?
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(i) "Factual information" + (ii) Polish subsidies
(i) A strange concept on a thread about Ryanair. IMO. Obviously
(ii) Are the Poles sufficiently naive to allow themselves to be sucked into this mug´s-game and/ or bottomless-pit, as the Catalans have been ?
I would presume not. IMO. Obviously.
(ii) Are the Poles sufficiently naive to allow themselves to be sucked into this mug´s-game and/ or bottomless-pit, as the Catalans have been ?
I would presume not. IMO. Obviously.
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Aiport near Prague
I suppose you mean the airfield called Vodochody. As far as I know, this airfield is owned by a private company.
Some years ago, there were indeed talks about possible Ryanair flights to and from Vodochody. But I think the problem is that there is no real passenger terminal infrastructure, at least not for 737-sized aircraft.
No idea if these plans are still in the pipeline.
Some years ago, there were indeed talks about possible Ryanair flights to and from Vodochody. But I think the problem is that there is no real passenger terminal infrastructure, at least not for 737-sized aircraft.
No idea if these plans are still in the pipeline.
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@danieln. Do you know Czech language? Can't help you, but if you do: Leti?t? Vodochody | Leti?t? Vodochody
@BigFrank. You sound somewhat like the betrayed man. Indeed, Girona looks like a looser in that game. But what about the Catalonian government? It wasn't smart to reduce the charges at El Prat
@Warsaw. Would be better for the inbound tourism than Wroclaw. Btw., here's some flavor of what Ryanair proposes in Modlin
And kind of Ryanair's hurray-optimistic vision on that picture:
Of course it's just a pure propaganda, nothing else, but is really the North-Eastern Europe kind of deserted area? Wouldn't it be closer from Warsaw to Finland than to Nantes? 
@BigFrank. You sound somewhat like the betrayed man. Indeed, Girona looks like a looser in that game. But what about the Catalonian government? It wasn't smart to reduce the charges at El Prat
@Warsaw. Would be better for the inbound tourism than Wroclaw. Btw., here's some flavor of what Ryanair proposes in Modlin
Europe's largest economy airliner Ryanair is looking to establish its first headquarters in the country at an airport currently under construction in Modlin, near Warsaw, reported Rzeczpospolita.
The airport, which is located 35 km north west of Warsaw, is scheduled to begin flying passengers as early as June 2012.
Ryanair officials say the company plans to base 10 of its planes at the Modlin Airport and have 40 regional connections from Warsaw, while servicing 3.5 million passengers in the process.
The company estimates that 3,500 new jobs will be created thanks to the new airport.
Construction on the Modlin Airport began on October 8 2010 and the facility is set for completion in the second quarter of 2012.
From Warsaw Business Journal
The airport, which is located 35 km north west of Warsaw, is scheduled to begin flying passengers as early as June 2012.
Ryanair officials say the company plans to base 10 of its planes at the Modlin Airport and have 40 regional connections from Warsaw, while servicing 3.5 million passengers in the process.
The company estimates that 3,500 new jobs will be created thanks to the new airport.
Construction on the Modlin Airport began on October 8 2010 and the facility is set for completion in the second quarter of 2012.
From Warsaw Business Journal
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The curious thing is I spoke to a Wizz air pilot recently, and he mentioned that both they & RYR have a common major shareholder. Wizz air had made a large a/c order. We speculated that that was why RYR seemed not to tread on Wizzair's toes, nor invade its patch, except for in & out flights. However, this new strategy seems to contradict that. Hm?
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We speculated that that was why RYR seemed not to tread on Wizzair's toes, nor invade its patch, except for in & out flights. However, this new strategy seems to contradict that. Hm?